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Virtual Dagger Auctioned for Over $10,000 in Entropia Universe

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[h=3]Virtual Dagger Auctioned for Over $10,000 in Entropia Universe[/h]A dagger was auctioned for $10,222 in MMORPG Entropia Universe — more than the price of a real, gold-plated “Black Panther” hunting knife — despite being made only of pixels.

The powerful Unique Sacrificial Dagger is the only one of its kind and was discovered in Halloween Mayhem 2017, an annual event where participants kill zombie monsters for prizes with real cash value. This year’s event marked the introduction of lootable Halloween Strongboxes, with player “28 yunggun 04”! opening one such box to discover the precious item within.

Entropia Universe is well known for its record-breaking virtual items sales — Crystal Palace Space Station was sold to a single player in 2009 for $330,000.



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Wow

:eyecrazy:
 
geez, jealous :D

but probably not the best day to put the resale value of a strongbox pull ;)
 
wizz said:
Girtsn, loot boxes are not gambling.
10 ped in 10 ped out.
You cant loose any ped in buying boxes. They're just a means to deposit.

Or do laws also forbid people to pay MU?
As MU is the only things that could be disputable in this issue, since MU is the only "win" aspect in this.
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There is a lol part about this btw.

The dagger, found in a simple box sold for 100k ped.

But the sword which could only be won, didnt even sell on auction for halve that price.
(or was it bought at last moment cuz i didnt see the auction end)

So next event, dont bother to try to win. Just buy boxes :wise:
 
wizz said:
Girtsn, loot boxes are not gambling.
10 ped in 10 ped out.
You cant loose any ped in buying boxes. They're just a means to deposit.

Or do laws also forbid people to pay MU?
As MU is the only things that could be disputable in this issue, since MU is the only "win" aspect in this.
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tbh i love the boxes, 100% of my deposits since they were added are via them, probably best idea added to the webshop and i'd hate to see them go. but i have to say i bought more than i needed effectively gambling to get a UL ring or something. ofc i didn't lose and i can withdraw which means you can't lose, but the same temptation is there. I know im not the only one who buys boxes for the sole purpose of pulling a high MU item.

Its a grey area, and it depends how our governmental overlords decide
 
The Jetman said:
tbh i love the boxes, 100% of my deposits since they were added are via them, probably best idea added to the webshop and i'd hate to see them go. but i have to say i bought more than i needed effectively gambling to get a UL ring or something. ofc i didn't lose and i can withdraw which means you can't lose, but the same temptation is there. I know im not the only one who buys boxes for the sole purpose of pulling a high MU item.

Its a grey area, and it depends how our governmental overlords decide
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totally agree to this.
I hadn't deposited since 2008.
But this year I decided to buy some just for the "gamble" to get some cool stuff....which of course you wont get.
But at least I got some extra ammo to throw into this black hole.
So boxes are just a more fun way to deposit. They just add that little extra incentive to deposit.

Shooting mobs, clicking BP's, dropping probes, now THAT is gambling!
 
meh - when you buy stuff that is not (fully) tt-able for 10 peds for 10 peds in hopes to loot a unique dagger, it is gambling - the price of the ticket is irrelevant
hardly compares to a deposit where you get peds directly

just saying it might not be the smartest idea go around advertising loot boxes @ this moment due to the ongoing "Star Wars Battlefront loot boxes" controversy

wizz said:
Girtsn, loot boxes are not gambling.
10 ped in 10 ped out.
You cant loose any ped in buying boxes. They're just a means to deposit.
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girtsn said:
meh - when you buy stuff that is not (fully) tt-able for 10 peds for 10 peds
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so buying ammo packages is then also considered gambling according to your theory?
 
how is it comparable - do they also offer a lottery to loot a unique dagger with it?
besides ammo is quite different from un-tt'able pills that don't have a ped based consumable
analogue (and as of loot 2.0 def no positive impact on the tt return)
wizz said:
so buying ammo packages is then also considered gambling according to your theory?
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Wizz, your argument does not hold water. If it did, MA would be giving the loot boxes out for free (minus the TT value of course)

It is not so easy to get $1 out of the game as it is to put $1 in to the game in boxes:)

I'll buy a few boxes anyways lol
 
Is the Dagger sold or not for this 10.000 $ because it will only be a big sale if som buy it in the game what if i put my armor for sale for 60.000 $ wold MA olso write about it.
This is not about what i want to sell something its about if someone buy it.:wise:
 
The point is that
This year’s event marked the introduction of lootable Halloween Strongboxes, with player “28 yunggun 04”! opening one such box to discover the precious item within.! !
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advertisement like this communicates the message "we also have loot boxes here, come and regulate us" to already trigger happy governments from the looks of it
valentin said:
This is not about what i want to sell something its about if someone buy it.:wise:
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Jhereg said:
Wizz, your argument does not hold water. If it did, MA would be giving the loot boxes out for free (minus the TT value of course)

It is not so easy to get $1 out of the game as it is to put $1 in to the game in boxes:)

I'll buy a few boxes anyways lol
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it for sure does hold water.

Boxes cost 1$ (=10 ped). The boxes content is worth 10 ped tt.
That's clear as water.
Stuff that you cant tt is refinable into ammo.
So it all keeps it value of 10 ped.

The fact that you have to chance to loot MU is imho just an extra, a bonus.

The ammo packs also cost 10 ped and give 10 ped ammo. And for that 10 ped ammo it is also not easy to get out that 1$ as you mention.

The ammo packs give you free HDNA and loot pills.
The boxes give you a free chance to get a MU item.

But it's a plain and simple fact that with boxes 10 ped in is 10 ped out, but just with a variety of items to make up that 10 ped.

Screw MU.

Now you could only consider boxes as gambling since they can hold MU items.
But now what if MU crashes for whatever reason. Is it then still considered gambling to you?


*edit* if boxes are gambling, then ammo packs are also gambling.
you pay 1$ to get 10 ped ammo which you cant sell and need to cycle (gamble) to get any value back. And by cycling ammo you can either lose it, or win.
It's the playing which is gambling, not the buying because you exactly know what you get as value for every $ spend.
 
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valentin said:
Is the Dagger sold or not for this 10.000 $ because it will only be a big sale if som buy it in the game what if i put my armor for sale for 60.000 $ wold MA olso write about it.
This is not about what i want to sell something its about if someone buy it.:wise:
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yes, the dagger was bought from auction for the mentioned amount.
 
i missed that every non-ammo can be refined as ammo
if that is true for everything, indeed "gambling" would be difficult to apply
wizz said:
Stuff that you cant tt is refinable into ammo.
So it all keeps it value of 10 ped.
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girtsn said:
i missed that every non-ammo can be refined as ammo
if that is true for everything, indeed "gambling" would be difficult to apply
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If I depo $10k, and don't loot a ring or MU item, via boxes, I will lose money.

Disregarding the semantics of "value" (MA are still taking a cost from withdraw fee or the rake on using the ammo).
 
quote from fz.se lotteriinspektionen-svarar-pa-om-loot-lador-kan-likstallas-med-lotteri

Basis of their statement is the framework for defining whether or not something is a lottery and a key point is whether the gain has an economic value.

" The profit element in the lottery the definition is met in the case of gains on money or money value.
The implication of this is that the profit must have a specific economic value in the real world.
The program in a computer game is taking part in an event which is determined by chance help must win something, outside the computer game's virtual environment, can be bought and sold for money or money value in order for it to be considered a profit according to Lottery definition. "

In order to be covered by the Swedish Lottery Act must, moreover, the main activities conducted in Sweden, a loophole many internet casinos use, for example, exclude also the Steam platform as shown in the following example.


" Eva has a user account on the computer games platform Gaming.
By Gaming platform, she can play different games. In Gaming platform, there is also the possibility to exchange real money for Gaming-coins that you can use to buy virtual items with different values in the computer game.
In one of those computer games participating Eve in an arrangement that is determined by random means whereby she wins a virtual objects.
The virtual item she sells to another user on the Gaming platform in Exchange for Gaming-coins. Gaming-the coins she switches into real money Gaming platform puts into her bank account.

In the above example, Eva, on the Gaming platform, participated in a lottery under the Lottery Act. Firstly, this is because she won any pga. chance. Secondly, this is due to the gain in the end proved to be of economic value in the real world when she sold its profits and sales have resulted in that she got into real money in their bank account.

In the next step assesses whether Gaming platform is organising lottery in Sweden. As may be the case if the operator of Gaming platform (e.g. a limited company) carries on his principal activity in Sweden. If the operator of Gaming platform is considered organising lottery in Sweden so subject arrangement of the Lotteries Act and then it is prohibited to organise it without permission. "

Therefore, for example, counter-strike: Global Offensive get away with the trade of skins from the in-game loot boxes have an annual turnover of millions every year, because it is played all over the world. Star Wars: Battlefront 2 is under the Lottery Act definition of absolutely not a lottery when the drawers do not have any economic value.
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Aio said:
If I depo $10k, and don't loot a ring or MU item, via boxes, I will lose money.

Disregarding the semantics of "value" (MA are still taking a cost from withdraw fee or the rake on using the ammo).
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This is a good point for discussion...
but
you could hit an ATH as well.

I think the point to make is that if a person makes a depo in the form of a box, you have to cycle the resulting ammo and you can't just withdrawl
 
Aio said:
If I depo $10k, and don't loot a ring or MU item, via boxes, I will lose money.

Disregarding the semantics of "value" (MA are still taking a cost from withdraw fee or the rake on using the ammo).
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You are still getting the 10 ped of value. You chose to take that value as in game ammunition, pills, etc. I think they are safe, legally.
 
OMG I missed this. This was a chance for me not to big again - I'm devastated.
 
How is this news??

$10,000+ trades/exchanges happen every fucking week in entropia. One LA is like $25,000 and those change hands biweekly it seems.

what about Girts buying the easter ring? no mention of that in the news... or anytime someone pays $10,000 for an imk2 or ranger scope.

bs publicity stunt that means nothing to us players.
 
It actually sold for $10,000? or it was auctioned at that by no sale?
 
Vagrant said:
It actually sold for $10,000? or it was auctioned at that by no sale?
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As I already mentioned but will repeat it, YES it was sold for the mentioned amount on auction.

PS, I forgot the name of the guy who bought it.

Rocket192 said:
How is this news??

$10,000+ trades/exchanges happen every fucking week in entropia. One LA is like $25,000 and those change hands biweekly it seems.

what about Girts buying the easter ring? no mention of that in the news... or anytime someone pays $10,000 for an imk2 or ranger scope.

bs publicity stunt that means nothing to us players.
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lol, yes, you're so right!

But I guess that wasnt the point.
The point was that it came from a box.
Meaning, YOU can loot as well for just 5 bucks!
 
wizz said:
As I already mentioned but will repeat it, YES it was sold for the mentioned amount on auction.

PS, I forgot the name of the guy who bought it.



lol, yes, you're so right!

But I guess that wasnt the point.
The point was that it came from a box.
Meaning, YOU can loot as well for just 5 bucks!
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Thanks you have done a great service :)
 
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