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O.O ––Where 100 PED Did Go–– O.O // 2nd Installment

GradenFoss

GradenFoss

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Hitting rock bottom the last time I am still looking for those eluding swirlies and acceptable returns.

So, for this occasion Mr Foss will jump on the bandwagon and join the merry Kerb train... to whereever it may go. :wave:

Will be doing Doms and Alphas at Jurra.

For some years now I only hunted what I could hunt w/o armor––with very few exceptions.
With MA now having reduced armor cost so much, instead of some infrequent healing with my S.I. H.E.A.R.T. in-between I will instead use Adjusted Pixie.
Really hate what MA did there making unarmored hunting unfavourable... :cussing:
Plus, Pixie makes you fat and ugly.
:cry:
 
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1st Run

PEDCard: 100.00 PED

Hero′s Sword -94.78 PED
Adj Pixie -0.59 PED

Cost: 95.37 PED

Doms Killed 22
Alphas Killed 26

Bronze Mission 4614/60000

Playing Time 47m

Bonus L00t from Alpha: Shrap +12.72 PED

Shrap +33.59 PED
MuscOil +41.25 PED
ThinWool +4.25 PED
SoftHide +2.30 PED
RatComp +1.80 PED
DilSweat +0.61 PED
InfClothExtr +0.18 PED

Return: 83.98 PED (88.06 %)
Return w/ Bonus: 96.70 PED (101.39 %)

PEDCard: 101.33 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg. :tapfinger
 
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2nd Run

PEDCard: 101.33 PED

Hero′s Sword -99.06 PED
Adj Pixie -0.59 PED

Cost: 99.65 PED
Total Spent: 195.02 PED

Doms Killed 20
Alphas Killed 27
St00pid Atrox Mat Killed 1 :mad:

Bronze Mission 5232/60000

Playing Time 46m
Total Playing Time 1h33m

Shrap +32.67 PED
MuscOil +30.96 PED
ThinWool +0.50 PED
SoftHide +5.50 PED
RatComp +0.60 PED
DilSweat +0.07 PED
InfClothExtr +0.15 PED

Return: 70.45 PED (70.70 %)
Total Return: 154.43 PED (79.19 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 167.15 PED (85.71 %)

PEDCard: 72.13 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg. :tapfinger
 
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good luck again!

I'll be watching :popcorn:
 
3rd Run

PEDCard: 72.13 PED

Hero′s Sword -69.23 PED
Adj Pixie -0.47 PED

Cost: 69.70 PED
Total Spent: 264.72 PED

Doms Killed 22
Alphas Killed 13

Bronze Mission 5678/60000

Playing Time 37m
Total Playing Time 2h10m

Shrap +20.41 PED
MuscOil +31.29 PED
ThinWool +2.25 PED
RatComp +0.30 PED
DilSweat +1.10 PED
InfClothExtr +0.06 PED
BasClothExtr +0.06 PED

Return: 55.47 PED (79.58 %)
Total Return: 209.90 PED (79.29 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 222.62 PED (84.10 %)

PEDCard: 57.90 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg, freezes. :tapfinger
 
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you are setting yourself up for a disappointment going at 500 hp mob with 100 ped.
 
WildD3mon said:
you are setting yourself up for a disappointment going at 500 hp mob with 100 ped.
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Care to elaborate?

I am still in the process of trying out the new l00t system to decide, whether MA has now killed the last fun in hunting for small-fry players like me. So, disappointment is quite possible.
:dunno:

Obviously I′m way off the 94-97% TT return rates MA is publicizing, I get no items, I get no swirlies.

On numbers:
Provided a steady 85% TT return, my initial 100 PEDs should translate into about 650 cycled PEDs. At my current killing rates it should lead to about 340 l00t events and about 5 hours of hunting time.

Atm I′m trying what I did for the last years, if it fails I will have to change my ways obviously. Which would mean going back to kill n00b mobs after so long a time. Preposterous. :mad:

I mean, I must′ve somehow gotten where I am today. You see that I have the Bronze Kerb mission open which shows that with my playing style I must′ve somehow survived the complete Iron Kerb mission chain, right? I got globals, items, then, very regularily.
 
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The problem I am seeing is that your killing around 50 mobs or less per run....the return is based on an average over a long number of kills. You can't expect to be 94-95% return on such small numbers, its an easy way to loose all your ped. You either need a higher bankroll to mitagate the volatility in loot swings, or hunt smaller mobs where you can kill decent numbers per run. I would aim for 400-500 mobs per run to hopefully cover the ups and downs of hunting.

$5 had a thread on bankroll management somewhere on this forum and that is a good read and I believe still applies even with the new loot mechanics...sorry i don't have the link to it.
 
Darth Revan said:
The problem I am seeing is that your killing around 50 mobs or less per run....the return is based on an average over a long number of kills. You can't expect to be 94-95% return on such small numbers, its an easy way to loose all your ped. You either need a higher bankroll to mitagate the volatility in loot swings, or hunt smaller mobs where you can kill decent numbers per run. I would aim for 400-500 mobs per run to hopefully cover the ups and downs of hunting.

$5 had a thread on bankroll management somewhere on this forum and that is a good read and I believe still applies even with the new loot mechanics...sorry i don't have the link to it.
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that should've been stickied...
 
Darth Revan said:
The problem I am seeing is that your killing around 50 mobs or less per run....the return is based on an average over a long number of kills. You can't expect to be 94-95% return on such small numbers, its an easy way to loose all your ped. You either need a higher bankroll to mitagate the volatility in loot swings, or hunt smaller mobs where you can kill decent numbers per run. I would aim for 400-500 mobs per run to hopefully cover the ups and downs of hunting.

$5 had a thread on bankroll management somewhere on this forum and that is a good read and I believe still applies even with the new loot mechanics...sorry i don't have the link to it.
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I′ve read this and a number of other bankroll management posts over the years.
The math seems sound.

However, that′s not my way of playing. Especially in the last years while MA was shutting one fun element of playing down after the other and took measures to alienate players I was not inclined to put in those amounts of money.

Also, I didn′t need to. As I said elsewhere, I′ve never had a greater hunting mult than 250×, however, my returns evened out quite quickly––within a couple of 100 cycled PEDs, at least a lot of times.

This here is to check, what under the current circumstances I can get for my 10 bucks (i.e. 10k fruit gathered :) ). Or anybody else for his/hers.


EDIT: Tnx for the link... I hadn′t seen your second post yet when I posted this. :tiphat:

Darth Revan said:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?287791-Risk-of-Ruin-Bankroll-Management
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4th Run

PEDCard: 57.90 PED

Hero′s Sword -56.75 PED
Adj Pixie -0.32 PED

Cost: 57.07 PED
Total Spent: 321.79 PED

Doms Killed 15
Alphas Killed 14

Bronze Mission 6054/60000

Playing Time 37m
Total Playing Time 2h47m

Shrap +19.50 PED
MuscOil +15.15 PED
ThinWool +0.75 PED
SoftHide +0.70 PED
DilSweat +1.21 PED
InfClothExtr +0.03 PED

Return: 37.34 PED (65.43 %)
Total Return: 247.24 PED (76.83 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 259.96 PED (80.79 %)

PEDCard: 38.17 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg, freezes. :tapfinger
 
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5th Run

PEDCard: 38.17 PED

Hero′s Sword -35.37 PED
Adj Pixie -0.27 PED

Cost: 35.64 PED
Total Spent: 357.43 PED

Doms Killed 8
Alphas Killed 14

Bronze Mission 6290/60000

Playing Time 18m
Total Playing Time 3h5m

Shrap +10.00 PED
MuscOil +12.93 PED
ThinWool +1.00 PED
SoftHide +0.70 PED
InfClothExtr +0.01 PED

Return: 24.64 PED (69.14 %)
Total Return: 271.88 PED (76.07 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 284.60 PED (79.62 %)

PEDCard: 27.17 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg, freezes. :tapfinger
Can′t move in or leave Service Center at Jurra without being bounced to Camp Icarus and back.
Each green/yellow dot appearing on radar sends my comp into shock freeze for minutes.
Mobs materialize not even when my ava has already reached their red dot displayed on radar.
 
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6th Run

PEDCard: 27.17 PED

Hero′s Sword -27.62 PED
Adj Pixie -0.22 PED

Cost: 27.84 PED
Total Spent: 385.27 PED

Doms Killed 4
Alphas Killed 10

Bronze Mission 6478/60000

Playing Time 15m
Total Playing Time 3h20m

Shrap +6.88 PED
MuscOil +6.12 PED
ThinWool +2.50 PED
SoftHide +1.10 PED
RatComp +1.20 PED
DilSweat +0.44 PED

Return: 18.24 PED (65.52 %)
Total Return: 290.12 PED (75.30 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 302.84 PED (78.60 %)

PEDCard: 17.57 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg, freezes. :tapfinger
Can′t move in or leave Service Center at Jurra without being bounced to Camp Icarus and back.
Each green/yellow dot appearing on radar sends my comp into shock freeze for minutes.
Mobs materialize not even when my ava has already reached their red dot displayed on radar.
 
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7th Run

PEDCard: 17.57 PED

Hero′s Sword -15.03 PED
Adj Pixie -0.11 PED

Cost: 15.14 PED
Total Spent: 400.41 PED

Doms Killed 4
Alphas Killed 4

Bronze Mission 6582/60000

Playing Time 10m
Total Playing Time 3h30m

Shrap +4.05 PED
MuscOil +2.01 PED
ThinWool +0.50 PED

Return: 6.56 PED (43.33 %)
Total Return: 296.68 PED (74.09 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 309.40 PED (77.27 %)

PEDCard: 8.99 PED

And yes. Having laaaaaggg, freezes. :tapfinger
Can′t move in or leave Service Center at Jurra without being bounced to Camp Icarus and back.
Each green/yellow dot appearing on radar sends my comp into shock freeze for minutes.
Mobs materialize not even when my ava has already reached their red dot displayed on radar.

122 PED Kerb Dom global within radar range. :banana:
So, been definitely in the right place at the right time––but no banana...
 
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8th Run

PEDCard: 8.99 PED

Hero′s Sword -7.97 PED
Adj Pixie -0.04 PED

Cost: 8.01 PED
Total Spent: 408.42 PED

Doms Killed 1
Alphas Killed 3

Bronze Mission 6636/60000

Playing Time 4m
Total Playing Time 3h34m

Shrap +0.75 PED
MuscOil +1.77 PED
ThinWool +0.75 PED
SoftHide +0.60 PED
InfClothExtr +0.02 PED

Return: 3.89 PED (48.56 %)
Total Return: 300.57 PED (73.59 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 313.29 PED (76.71 %)

PEDCard: 4.87 PED

Lag seems even worse after patch...
Plus, needed 5 minutes to finally get logged in. :poke:
 
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Down the toilet.

im gonna make something similar for fun. I'll probably take a trip down the toilet too.
 
Wait. What. Why.

Why would you hunt something where the bankroll estimates 80 kills? This is such a horrific idea...

100 ped budget, the only legitimate log is to hunt mobs which cost 0.10 ped per kill. You'd have a decent log if you ran this on punies, but until then......your 100 ped went exactly where I would expect. Into a gamble that lost :p
 
Slyk said:
Wait. What. Why.

Why would you hunt something where the bankroll estimates 80 kills? This is such a horrific idea...

100 ped budget, the only legitimate log is to hunt mobs which cost 0.10 ped per kill. You'd have a decent log if you ran this on punies, but until then......your 100 ped went exactly where I would expect. Into a gamble that lost :p
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Well... there still seems to be a misunderstanding.
This log is not about bankroll management and the like, this is about using up 10 bucks and what you get for it (in comparison to before L00t 2.0 or whatever you may call it).

As I said before:

GradenFoss said:
On numbers:
Provided a steady 85% TT return, my initial 100 PEDs should translate into about 650 cycled PEDs. At my current killing rates it should lead to about 340 l00t events and about 5 hours of hunting time.
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I am looking here at entertainment/fun of play value.

What I aimed for was getting one item and getting one 25× mult plus. Formerly, I could have counted on getting about 10 mults at least on these numbers of kills with a high probability that one of them would be 25× or more.

Now I come in even with thousands of unsuccessful l00t events before and get zilch. :dunno:

Getting items is fun, getting no items is no fun. For a player in his 9th year killing n00b mobs is no fun either, plus, you′d hate to waste a real good mult––so it comes––on a cheap-o mob. :wise:

Btw, that 100 PED were supposed to being used up––as can be inferred from the title. Why would that be gambling. Using a weapon with good eco on a mob which currently carries good l00ts according to in-game glob spam, HoF list, and EL, too.
 
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9th Run

PEDCard: 4.87 PED

Hero′s Sword -3.80 PED

Cost: 3.80 PED
Total Spent: 412.22 PED

Doms Killed 1
Alphas Killed 1

Bronze Mission 6662/60000

Playing Time 2m
Total Playing Time 3h36m

Shrap +0.83 PED
SoftHide +0.60 PED

Return: 1.43 PED (37.63 %)
Total Return: 302.00 PED (73.26 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 314.72 PED (76.35 %)

PEDCard: 2.50 PED

Trying to repair sword:
»[System]: You are not authorized to perform this action.«

:eyecrazy: :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy:
 
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10th Run

PEDCard: 2.50 PED

Hero′s Sword -2.19 PED

Cost: 2.19 PED
Total Spent: 414.41 PED

Alphas Killed 1

Bronze Mission 6676/60000

Playing Time 1m
Total Playing Time 3h37m

Shrap +0.27 PED
MuscOil +0.96 PED

Return: 1.23 PED (56.16 %)
Total Return: 303.23 PED (73.17 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 315.95 PED (76.24 %)

PEDCard: 1.54 PED

:broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke:
 
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Entropia is a long term game.



Dont 'daytrade'
 
GradenFoss said:
10th Run

PEDCard: 2.50 PED

Hero′s Sword -2.19 PED

Cost: 2.19 PED
Total Spent: 414.41 PED

Alphas Killed 1

Bronze Mission 6676/60000

Playing Time 1m
Total Playing Time 3h37m

Shrap +0.27 PED
MuscOil +0.96 PED

Return: 1.23 PED (56.16 %)
Total Return: 303.23 PED (73.17 %)
Total Return w/ Bonus: 315.95 PED (76.24 %)

PEDCard: 1.54 PED

:broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke::broke:
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I must know....

Did it take longer to make this post than the 'run' itself :p ?
 
Let′s have the numbers.

PEDs cycled: 414.41

L00t events on Kerb Doms: 97
L00t events on Kerb Alphas: 113
L00t event on Atrox Mature: 1

Total Return: 73.17 % TT
Total Return w/ Bonus: 76.24 % TT

Globals: 0
Items: 0

Not even getting 500 cycled PEDs out of my 10 bucks. :(

Three months of hunting with not a single 25× mult on non-n00b mobs (even at my playing style several thousands of l00t events). :(

MA tells me to cycle 10000 PED and only lose 300 PEDs on them. :scratch2:
With base l00t seemingly at 50 % atm that would mean putting in 500 bucks.
Or go back to n00b mobs––where I can relish wasting precious higher multipliers on junk mobs. :bump:

Now. What to do with my next 10 bucks.

Well...

Came recently across this nicely edited series of British Classic Crime Novels (great covers and layout, too). Being published since 2014 there are now more than 50 books. Have those already:

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budelakedistrict250.jpg

hayunderground250.jpg
farjeonmystwhite250.jpg


Try now to decide on what to get next:

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hayklaus250.jpg
farjeonthirteen250.jpg


Anybody reading these...? Recommendations...?

That′s admittedly fewer kills ofc, but at least 1 item for my 10 bucks, double time of entertainment. No swirlies though. :dunno:
(Maybe get some when you hit your head against the wall for not nailing the right suspect in time. :banghead: )
 
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