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On request I've generated this list. It will not include some of the newest (L) weapons (AR-Matrix)

The initial purpose of this thread is to demonstrate the wealth of weapon options available to players wishing to participate in their Merry Mayhem Category

How do I determine my category and what dps I need?
Look up your HP. If it is lower that in the hpmax column, you can compete in that category.

Someone with 109 hp can compete in ALL categories if they choose, whereas someone with >320.1 hp may only compete in Category 10


PHP:
Cat	hp max	max base dmg/sec
1		110		34
2		125		48
3		140		60
4		160		74
5		175		82
6		200		90
7		240		98
8		280		104
9		320		110
10		9999		9999

What is the highest dps weapons I can use?
MA(PC) have stated that strongest weapon you can use (dps) will be calculated on MAXDMG*N_attacks_per_min/60

This is before buffs and amps.

HOw do I choose a weapon?
See the below table (guides per category)
Every weapon base dps has the same calculation to max dps
i.e. Add 10 enhancers (max x2), add a maximum amp (max +0.5), increase reload (max *1.25), crit chance (max *1.07) and increase focus blow (60%*1.056)
(2+.5)*1.25*(1.07)*(1.056)
Therefore the Max dps available in the category is consistently related to the dps (assume between 3.1-3.7)


Below are a list of weapon in each category with the highest base dps.
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Cat	BASE DPS	CLASS	TYPE	NAME
1	33.8	Melee	Shortblades	Kesmek Vass
1	33.8	Melee	Longblades	MAKO Blizzard 1 (L)
1	33.8	Rifle	BLP	Herman ARK-16 (L)
1	33.7	Carbine	Laser	A&P Series Hero Adjusted
1	33.6	Mindforce	Cryogenic	Lacerating Attack Nanochip V TEN Edition
1	33.6	Carbine	Laser	Hel Death
1	33.6	Melee	Power Fist	Omegaton Power Claw Piercer (L)
1	33.5	Rifle	BLP	2.H.T.S. Shotgun (L)
1	33.3	Rifle	BLP	Isis CB19
1	32.9	Carbine	Laser	Isis LBC 20 (L)
1	32.9	Rifle	BLP	S & B Ardenner 20 (L)
2	48.0	Pistol	Laser	Imperium Pilot Scorpion Rank 32 (L)
2	48.0	Pistol	Laser	EWE EP-50 Ranger
2	47.9	Mindforce	Electric	Kinetic Attack Chip VIII (L)
2	47.9	Mindforce	Electric	Kinetic Attack Nanochip VIII
2	47.9	Mindforce	Electric	Kinetic Attack Nanochip VIII (L)
2	47.7	Pistol	BLP	Isis BL1000 (L)
2	47.7	Melee	Longblades	Katsuichi Courage Retro (L)
2	47.7	Rifle	BLP	Isis CB21
2	47.7	Rifle	BLP	Isis CB21 (L)
2	47.6	Support	Rocket	Skildek SER 500 (L)
2	47.5	Pistol	BLP	Emik Enigma L1 (L)
2	47.5	Rifle	BLP	VAT-100 Mentor Edition
2	47.4	Pistol	Laser	Isis LBP 30 (L)
2	47.4	Pistol	BLP	Scott & Barlow BP-30 (L)
2	47.3	Pistol	BLP	Svempa T15
2	46.9	Melee	Shortblades	Kesmek Bett
2	46.7	Pistol	Laser	Breer H31a (L)
3	60.0	Melee	Shortblades	Castorian Survival EnBlade-11
3	59.8	Rifle	BLP	Herman ARK-36 Arctic (L)
3	59.8	Carbine	Laser	Isis LR53 (L) Modified
3	59.8	Carbine	Laser	Isis LR53 Modified
3	59.5	Melee	Shortblades	MANTA Chill 2 (L)
3	59.5	Carbine	Laser	Piron PLR-42 (L)
3	59.3	Carbine	Laser	Fireforge FF43 (L)
3	59.3	Carbine	Laser	Fireforge FF43 (L)
3	58.5	Mindforce	Pyro	Corrosive Attack Nanochip XI
3	58.5	Mindforce	Pyro	Corrosive Attack Nanochip XI (L)
4	73.6	Rifle	BLP	Herman ARK-50 Arctic (L)
4	73.6	Melee	Shortblades	Omegaton Bur Ning (L)
4	73.5	Melee	Clubs	Castorian Combat Mace MK. IV
4	73.3	Melee	Longblades	Improved Mako Fal
4	73.3	Melee	Clubs	Master Guards Spiked Club
4	73.0	Carbine	Laser	A-3 Justifier Mk.II, SGA Edition Improved
4	72.8	Carbine	Laser	EWE LC-240 Recon E.L.M Edition (L)
4	72.8	Melee	Shortblades	MANTA Flame 2 (L)
4	72.8	Rifle	BLP	Omegaton ASG-12 Fletcher (L)
4	72.6	Pistol	Laser	Omegaton M2870 Improved, SGA Edition
4	72.5	Pistol	BLP	Piron PBP-57 (L)
4	72.3	Pistol	Plasma	Enkidd Series A-55 (L)
4	72.3	Rifle	BLP	Herman ARK-40 Smuggler
4	72.2	Pistol	Laser	EWE EP-52 Dissolver (L)
4	72.1	Pistol	BLP	Herman ASI-58 Desert (L)
4	72.0	Carbine	Laser	Piron PLR-57 (L)
4	72.0	Carbine	Laser	A-3 Justifier Mk.II Improved
5	81.7	Melee	Shortblades	Castorian Survival EnBlade-10
5	81.7	Melee	Longblades	MAKO Lightning Smuggler
5	81.6	Carbine	Laser	Isis LC-60 (L)
5	81.6	Pistol	BLP	Isis BL1300 (L)
5	81.5	Rifle	BLP	Isis CB27 (L)
5	81.3	Pistol	Laser	EWE EP-54 Fury (L)
5	81.3	Carbine	Laser	Isis LR65 (L)
5	81.0	Melee	Shortblades	MANTA Chill 3 (L)
5	81.0	Melee	Longblades	MAKO Blizzard 3 (L)
5	80.8	Pistol	BLP	Emik Enigma L6 (L)
5	80.8	Rifle	BLP	Tegretov TR6 Perfected
5	80.6	Pistol	BLP	Isis Project Zero-Seven (L)
5	80.6	Melee	Longblades	Genesis Sparkbite E.L.M Edition (L)
5	80.4	Support	Rocket	DetPil V-Rex 2000, SGA Edition
5	80.4	Rifle	BLP	Camo Arms Marine Prowler (L)
5	80.4	Pistol	BLP	Herman ASI-50 Smuggler
6	89.6	Carbine	Laser	Herman LAW-77 Jungle (L)
6	89.3	Carbine	Laser	EWE LC-300 Ambush
6	89.3	Pistol	Laser	GeoTrek H33 Uti (L)
6	89.0	Support	Rocket	DetPil Python (L)
6	88.8	Pistol	Laser	Omegaton Igni L1210 (L)
6	88.5	Rifle	BLP	Ravenger Mini-Sweeper V3 (L) Improved
6	88.4	Rifle	BLP	Isis CB29 (L)
6	88.2	Pistol	Laser	Omegaton Igni L2000 (L)
6	88.0	Carbine	Laser	Isis LR66 (L)
6	88.0	Rifle	BLP	Herman ARK-75 Arctic (L)
6	88.0	Carbine	Laser	Herman LAW-75 Arctic (L)
6	87.8	Melee	Shortblades	Omegaton Neptune MM Edition (L)
6	87.6	Pistol	Laser	Herman CAP-65 Arctic (L)
6	87.4	Carbine	Laser	EWE LC-350 Dissolver (L)
6	87.1	Carbine	BLP	DOA Rockjacker Mentor Edition
6	86.5	Pistol	Laser	Herman CAP-64 Jungle (L)
6	86.5	Pistol	BLP	Emik X5
6	86.4	Melee	Longblades	Genesis Niflheim
6	86.3	Melee	Shortblades	Genesis Bifrost
6	83.8	Support	Rocket	Skildek Cobra (L)
7	98.0	EWE LC-400 Submission (L) (40/60)x147 =98 dps
7	98.0	Isis Lr.78Pt (L)	98 dps (30/60) x196=98 dps
7	97.9	Melee	Longblades	Embra Spectral EnBlade E.L.M Edition (L)
7	97.8	Pistol	Laser	Omegaton Igni L2020 (L)
7	97.6	Pistol	BLP	Isis BL1450 (L)
7	96.0	Pistol	Laser	EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified
7	96.0	Pistol	Laser	EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient
7	96.0	Pistol	Laser	EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified, SGA Edition
7	96.0	Pistol	BLP	Herman XP-1 Scanthi Edition
7	95.9	Rifle	BLP	Camo Arms Marine Stalker E.L.M Edition (L)
7	95.8	Carbine	Laser	EWE LC-625 Gleamer (L)
7	95.7	Pistol	BLP	Jashonich SIF-S (L)
7	95.3	Pistol	Laser	Isis HL18
7	95.3	Pistol	Laser	Isis HL18 (L)
7	95.1	Melee	Shortblades	Omegaton Saturn (L)
7	94.4	Support	Grenade	Vumpoor Dissolver (L)
7	94.3	Pistol	Laser	Rip M6600 Modified
7	94.1	Melee	Longblades	Genesis Rainbow Sword (L)
7	92.4	Support	Rocket	Skildek Exterminator
8	104.0	Pistol	BLP	Svempa XT (L)
8	103.7	Pistol	Laser	Isis HL20 (L)
8	102.9	Melee	Shortblades	Genesis Prism of Destruction
8	102.4	Melee	Longblades	Genesis Rainbow Sword
8	102.3	Carbine	BLP	DOA Strikehammer Improved
8	101.3	Pistol	Laser	MacMahon Instant Karma (L)
8	101.2	Pistol	BLP	Isis BL1600 (L)
8	101.2	Carbine	Laser	CDF XTLC 800
8	100.8	Pistol	Laser	Isis HL18, SGA Edition
8	100.5	Rifle	Laser	Omegaton M91 Stalker (L)
8	100.5	Pistol	BLP	Jashonich SIF-O (L)
8	100.5	Rifle	BLP	Isis CB32 (L)
8	99.5	Pistol	Laser	GeoTrek H36 Saou (L)
8	99.3	Carbine	BLP	DOA Foeripper
8	99.3	Carbine	BLP	DOA Foeripper, SGA Edition
8	98.5	Melee	Axes	Castorian Chromatic Cleaver (L)
9	108.7	Attached	Laser	Kismet Light Laser (L)
9	106.2	Melee	Power Fist	DOA Incineration Gauntlets (L)
9	104.3	Pistol	BLP	GeoTrek H1051 Kisf (L)
10	157.5	Melee	Shortblades	Unique Roman Ram Purifier Prototype
10	119.2	Rifle	BLP	Unique Dub & McCormick Terminator
10	116.0	Pistol	BLP	Isis BL1800
10	112.0	Rifle	Laser	Laserfaust SL-G 10 (L)
10	110.8	Melee	Axes	Unique Legend War Axe
10	110.3	Rifle	BLP	Aelgen Type E91 (L)
10	108.7	Carbine	Laser	CDF XTLC 1000


Sorry Cat 9s, you're screwed
 
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LOL @ Cat 7. I easily hit 207 HP have crossed trained in melee by hitting 60+ in melee skills and 60+ in lasers.

So I can't compete.

(Perhaps you could add the skill level required to use those weapons?)
 
7 97.9 Melee Longblades Embra Spectral EnBlade E.L.M Edition (L) (Level Req: 90)
7 97.8 Pistol Laser Omegaton Igni L2020 (L) (Level Req: 90)
7 97.6 Pistol BLP Isis BL1450 (L) (Level Req: 66)
7 96.0 Pistol Laser EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified (Level Req: 100)
7 96.0 Pistol Laser EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient (Level Req: 100)
7 96.0 Pistol Laser EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified, SGA Edition (Level Req: 100)
7 96.0 Pistol BLP Herman XP-1 Scanthi Edition (100)
7 95.9 Rifle BLP Camo Arms Marine Stalker E.L.M Edition (L)
7 95.8 Carbine Laser EWE LC-625 Gleamer (L)
7 95.7 Pistol BLP Jashonich SIF-S (L)
7 95.3 Pistol Laser Isis HL18 (63)
7 95.3 Pistol Laser Isis HL18 (L) (63)
7 95.1 Melee Shortblades Omegaton Saturn (L)
7 94.4 Support Grenade Vumpoor Dissolver (L)
7 94.3 Pistol Laser Rip M6600 Modified (Level Req: 90)
7 94.1 Melee Longblades Genesis Rainbow Sword (L)
7 92.4 Support Rocket Skildek Exterminator

Do the HL's exist still?

Most of these, you need to be ~lvl 90 to use or above.

Which means you've hit commando, which means you probably have more than 207 hp. So They probably aren't going to get used for cat 7.
 
7 97.9 Melee Longblades Embra Spectral EnBlade E.L.M Edition (L) (Level Req: 90)
7 97.8 Pistol Laser Omegaton Igni L2020 (L) (Level Req: 90)
7 97.6 Pistol BLP Isis BL1450 (L) (Level Req: 66)
7 96.0 Pistol Laser EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified (Level Req: 100)
7 96.0 Pistol Laser EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified Ancient (Level Req: 100)
7 96.0 Pistol Laser EWE EP-40 Mercenary Modified, SGA Edition (Level Req: 100)
7 96.0 Pistol BLP Herman XP-1 Scanthi Edition (100)
7 95.9 Rifle BLP Camo Arms Marine Stalker E.L.M Edition (L)
7 95.8 Carbine Laser EWE LC-625 Gleamer (L)
7 95.7 Pistol BLP Jashonich SIF-S (L)
7 95.3 Pistol Laser Isis HL18 (63)
7 95.3 Pistol Laser Isis HL18 (L) (63)
7 95.1 Melee Shortblades Omegaton Saturn (L)
7 94.4 Support Grenade Vumpoor Dissolver (L)
7 94.3 Pistol Laser Rip M6600 Modified (Level Req: 90)
7 94.1 Melee Longblades Genesis Rainbow Sword (L)
7 92.4 Support Rocket Skildek Exterminator

Do the HL's exist still?

Most of these, you need to be ~lvl 90 to use or above.

Which means you've hit commando, which means you probably have more than 207 hp. So They probably aren't going to get used for cat 7.


You don't need to be lvl 100 to use them.

The L options are around 60-65

The UL need 0 levels
 
L weapons are irrelevant unless prizes are so worthless that running enhancers isn't cost effective.
 
L weapons are irrelevant unless prizes are so worthless that running enhancers isn't cost effective.

The fight is only for 20-30 min (MA state, which means it will probablys be 10-40) so a high tier (L) is valuable
 
Ah ya I suppose thats true. So alien to me thinking that MA did something other than a grind event :laugh:
 
You don't need to be lvl 100 to use them.

The L options are around 60-65

The UL need 0 levels

L options have a start sib of around that. They are not maxed at those levels.
It is interesting. To be able to use a mod merc you have to be level 100. But a level 100 player can probably not complete in level 7 due to having too much HP.
I have 225 HP and my best level is 65 ( shortblades).
 
I'm actually not sure if any of those limited low level req pistols actually drop anymore, perhaps someone else knows.

And they are still limited so unless you can find one that you can tier fast, still not useful.
 
these two weapons also still belong to cat.7:

EWE LC-400 Submission (L) (40/60)x147 =98 dps
Isis Lr.78Pt (L) 98 dps (30/60) x196=98 dps
 
Easier to decide to not play MM this year?
 
For Cat 4 there is Herman ASI TEN Edition level 36 68.4 DPS and fi ra co evil work on this weapon. I think it's better than unmaxed Imp MKII ;)

ASG-12 Bucktful should work fine too for cat 4 but level 50 weapon :)
 
On request I've generated this list. It will not include some of the newest (L) weapons (AR-Matrix)

The initial purpose of this thread is to demonstrate the wealth of weapon options available to players wishing to participate in their Merry Mayhem Category

How do I determine my category and what dps I need?
Look up your HP. If it is lower that in the hpmax column, you can compete in that category.

Someone with 109 hp can compete in ALL categories if they choose, whereas someone with >320.1 hp may only compete in Category 10

....

so your list shows the strongest base dmg weapons.
But what about amps?

Highest base dmg unamped doesnt mean its the strongest weapon after adding an amp.

Did you take that in account also?
 
so your list shows the strongest base dmg weapons.
But what about amps?

Highest base dmg unamped doesnt mean its the strongest weapon after adding an amp.

Did you take that in account also?
Good point. According to these rules BLP beats Laser.
(which is cool by me)
 
so your list shows the strongest base dmg weapons.
But what about amps?

Highest base dmg unamped doesnt mean its the strongest weapon after adding an amp.

Did you take that in account also?

with the introduction from Ma of "Epic amp" series it almost doesn't matter. Choose your weapon. Choose any amp > weapondmg/2.

This is where the *3.5 factor comes in.

If you can't reach 3.5* base dmg, don't bother.
 
with the introduction from Ma of "Epic amp" series it almost doesn't matter. Choose your weapon. Choose any amp > weapondmg/2.

This is where the *3.5 factor comes in.

If you can't reach 3.5* base dmg, don't bother.

well, as I personally I dont have many hp's and are just a Cat4, I have the feeling I might even stand a chance without me being uber.

How many folks with less than 160 hp's have awesome unbeatable setups??
Its nice an all that you can have lvl 50+ weapons as max in cat4, but how many people with just 160 hp's can use that?

*edit* But you didnt answer my question. did you take into account the amps?
Because amps surely change the cards a lot!
It's nice to have a high dmg low attack weapon that does 70 dmg/sec (for cat 4), but it will still lose from a lower dmg fast firing weapon once the amp is added.
 
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well, as I personally I dont have many hp's and are just a Cat4, I have the feeling I might even stand a chance without me being uber.

How many folks with less than 160 hp's have awesome unbeatable setups??
Its nice an all that you can have lvl 50+ weapons as max in cat4, but how many people with just 160 hp's can use that?

*edit* But you didnt answer my question. did you take into account the amps?
Because amps surely change the cards a lot!
It's nice to have a high dmg low attack weapon that does 70 dmg/sec (for cat 4), but it will still lose from a lower dmg fast firing weapon once the amp is added.

Amps become irrelvant since in almost all cases an ampo exists where it is > 50% dmg of the weapn
 
Just looted a [MacMahon Instant Karma (L)] and had a look at it...
80 Attacks and 40-80 Damage Gives it a 106.66 Max Base DPS.
Could be a killer gun in Cat9?

entropiawiki is still down, so I dont know how to calculate DPS. Anyone know?
 
Just looted a [MacMahon Instant Karma (L)] and had a look at it...
80 Attacks and 40-80 Damage Gives it a 106.66 Max Base DPS.
Could be a killer gun in Cat9?

entropiawiki is still down, so I dont know how to calculate DPS. Anyone know?


official version of base dps is stated on page 1 of the merry mayhem post !!!!

uses/60 * max damage

so your 106 dps is the right answer

= other ppl calculated the dps with

(max damage*0.75)*uses/60

some also added on this the * 0.92 for the 8 % evaded shots
 
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