MsPudding
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Hey,
After seeing the results from this Easter Mayhem everyone in the game was made aware of those that were disqualified.
Here's exactly what MA had to say about those that were disqualified:
So the question is:
Q:Do you think MA should continue to publicly name avatars that are disqualified from a Mayhem/Event? Yes or No. Why?
My opinion, for anyone that cares
Yes, so long as we're made aware of what will get you disqualified and a very generalized explanation as to why someone was disqualified.
My argument in favor of implementing this in future events is that it would encourage players to play by the rules. Obviously MA needs to state what those rules are and what can get you banned -- so at least the general public is put on notice as to why they could get disqualified.
Then, if someone is disqualified, I think it's fair to state a general reason next to the person's name. I don't think it's necessary that we know every detail and server log from the person that was disqualified, but I think if you're going to go as far as to name someone publicly you owe it to that person to at least briefly explain why they got canned.
Other sports disqualify athletes all the time. They make headlines when this happens. This kind of practice strongly discourages those from thinking about participating in the risky measures. I don't think there's anything wrong with this. What the papers will do that was not done in Easter Mayhem is explain briefly why an athlete was disqualified. If someone is doping in a sport or using steroids when they shouldn't -- the news article will include this.
The way the current Mayhem was handled requires the players to place a lot of trust in those above. Which is fine if we're all made aware that's how it's going to be in the future. The consequence could be, however, that you get less people willing to participate for fear of getting arbitrarily disqualified.
This is not a post or rant about how MA is screwing everything up -- I really like the idea of disqualifying avatars if they're suspected for cheating. I definitely approve of more of this type of thing. I would just add that there needs to be a brief explanation attached, that's all. Something as simple as Avatar_XXX Disqualified for bug/exploits/suspicious activity or Avatar_XXX Disqualified for impossibly low number of robots killed
I realize a lot of people are angry at seeing their friend's name on the list of those disqualified -- and they have every right to be frustrated. I think at this point MA has far more information as to why someone was DQ'd than we do. Unfortunately, just because someone seems trustworthy in game doesn't equate to that person being trustworthy when they're alone and in an instance without anyone watching. Of course it's always possible that MA screwed up and an innocent person was DQ'd for the wrong reason.
This happens in our justice system all the time. That doesn't mean we just stop imprisoning people to avoid the one off person that gets dealt with unfairly.
We learn. We progress. We sharpen the rules over time. I'm hopeful that MA will improve the events more and more as they go on. I mean it was just a few months ago that the forums were crying out for justice to be had on those competing in Merry Mayhem -- nothing was done. Now MA does something and the riots ensue. Let's slow down, and wait to see what MA does. Perhaps they do nothing more for this Easter Mayhem, and so be it. But maybe they implement the rules a little differently for Halloween Mayhem. As long as the system is continually improving and MA is trying their hardest to listen to the player base and implement positive change, I'm happy.
Let's see what comes of it...
After seeing the results from this Easter Mayhem everyone in the game was made aware of those that were disqualified.
Here's exactly what MA had to say about those that were disqualified:
Several participants were disqualified and will not receive prizes due to suspicious activity and/or an impossibly low number of robot kills in relation to their posted event time. Disqualified participants are also banned from winning prizes in any future Mayhem events.
So the question is:
Q:Do you think MA should continue to publicly name avatars that are disqualified from a Mayhem/Event? Yes or No. Why?
My opinion, for anyone that cares
Yes, so long as we're made aware of what will get you disqualified and a very generalized explanation as to why someone was disqualified.
My argument in favor of implementing this in future events is that it would encourage players to play by the rules. Obviously MA needs to state what those rules are and what can get you banned -- so at least the general public is put on notice as to why they could get disqualified.
Then, if someone is disqualified, I think it's fair to state a general reason next to the person's name. I don't think it's necessary that we know every detail and server log from the person that was disqualified, but I think if you're going to go as far as to name someone publicly you owe it to that person to at least briefly explain why they got canned.
Other sports disqualify athletes all the time. They make headlines when this happens. This kind of practice strongly discourages those from thinking about participating in the risky measures. I don't think there's anything wrong with this. What the papers will do that was not done in Easter Mayhem is explain briefly why an athlete was disqualified. If someone is doping in a sport or using steroids when they shouldn't -- the news article will include this.
The way the current Mayhem was handled requires the players to place a lot of trust in those above. Which is fine if we're all made aware that's how it's going to be in the future. The consequence could be, however, that you get less people willing to participate for fear of getting arbitrarily disqualified.
This is not a post or rant about how MA is screwing everything up -- I really like the idea of disqualifying avatars if they're suspected for cheating. I definitely approve of more of this type of thing. I would just add that there needs to be a brief explanation attached, that's all. Something as simple as Avatar_XXX Disqualified for bug/exploits/suspicious activity or Avatar_XXX Disqualified for impossibly low number of robots killed
I realize a lot of people are angry at seeing their friend's name on the list of those disqualified -- and they have every right to be frustrated. I think at this point MA has far more information as to why someone was DQ'd than we do. Unfortunately, just because someone seems trustworthy in game doesn't equate to that person being trustworthy when they're alone and in an instance without anyone watching. Of course it's always possible that MA screwed up and an innocent person was DQ'd for the wrong reason.
This happens in our justice system all the time. That doesn't mean we just stop imprisoning people to avoid the one off person that gets dealt with unfairly.
We learn. We progress. We sharpen the rules over time. I'm hopeful that MA will improve the events more and more as they go on. I mean it was just a few months ago that the forums were crying out for justice to be had on those competing in Merry Mayhem -- nothing was done. Now MA does something and the riots ensue. Let's slow down, and wait to see what MA does. Perhaps they do nothing more for this Easter Mayhem, and so be it. But maybe they implement the rules a little differently for Halloween Mayhem. As long as the system is continually improving and MA is trying their hardest to listen to the player base and implement positive change, I'm happy.
Let's see what comes of it...