The Enigma Keys — Final Stage Coming...

I am thinking, that to make this fair, they could count how many times an avatar has received the message "[System] Mission completed (Enter the Matrix)" and treat each of those as a 'completed mission' for the calculation of probability of getting the egg.

The early birds would have a higher count than those that only got to the matrix later, and those that have spent time/resources every day going to the instance location to click the monument would also be getting credit for their efforts.

And those of us that absolutely nothing happens for when we click the entrance?

GreySloth said:

I am thinking, that to make this fair, they could count how many times an avatar has received the message "[System] Mission completed (Enter the Matrix)" and treat each of those as a 'completed mission' for the calculation of probability of getting the egg.

The early birds would have a higher count than those that only got to the matrix later, and those that have spent time/resources every day going to the instance location to click the monument would also be getting credit for their efforts.

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Exactly. Those who use auto-clickers or logout/login a hundred times will have a better chance to win?

toad said:

And those of us that absolutely nothing happens for when we click the entrance?

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I think he means if you showed up everyday to click the instance and got the message, this would count towards upping your probability. even if you don't get in the instance.

so person A: got in and completed instace 2 times. 2points towards upping probability
person B: showed up and clicked monument 2 times, never got in. also receive 2 points towards upping probability.

Coelacanth said:

Exactly. Those who use auto-clickers or logout/login a hundred times will have a better chance to win?

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no idea how an auto-clicker would help. I only received the mission complete 1 time, and clicked the monument about 1k times like an idiot for 45 minutes.

about relogging, I have no idea. if you relog do you then receive the mission completed status again? or does it only happen once every 22 hours?

toad said:

And those of us that absolutely nothing happens for when we click the entrance?

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I'm not aware that "nothing happens" for some peoples.

Check your missions logs, you will probably see the "Enter the Matrix" in your Completed missions.

GreySloth said:

I am thinking, that to make this fair, they could count how many times an avatar has received the message "[System] Mission completed (Enter the Matrix)" and treat each of those as a 'completed mission' for the calculation of probability of getting the egg.

The early birds would have a higher count than those that only got to the matrix later, and those that have spent time/resources every day going to the instance location to click the monument would also be getting credit for their efforts.

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I don't agree, because probability is only probability...

For an example, let say the odds goes like this;
1st attempt 1/1000 chances to loot the egg, 2nd attempt 1/999, 3rd attempt 1/998, etc...

1/1000 is low chances, but that don't mean that you CAN'T loot the egg on first attempt.

So, doing the way you tell, even if the egg don't drop yet and you start whith the corrected odds after this is fixed, you simply lost some chances to win.

The thing to do is more like to let peoples do ALL their bugged attempts after this is fixed.
This is today the 3rd bugged attempt for alot of peoples (me included), so if this is fixed tomorrow, these peoples should be able to do 4 tries in a row.

You are correct, was just me that did not see the message.

~ Cirrus ~ said:

I'm not aware that "nothing happens" for some peoples.

Check your missions logs, you will probably see the "Enter the Matrix" in your Completed missions.

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~ Cirrus ~ idea would also be good, probably even better from MindArk point of view, since people would spend more on ammo/decay catching up their missions, than they would just being given credit for the missions.

I predict the first people to enter after the fix will loot the egg.

I have to say I have quite enjoyed the Enigma mission so far, but just perplexed about the whole execution of it.

Right now (well, I'm not logged in and can't get back online there until after 9pm UK time) I'm stationed at the final Matrix area waiting to get in, along with a bunch of other players.

I got there by completing different sets of tasks compared to others, which doesn't sit right for me:

During the second stage I had only 1 hunting task, for the defenders (I would have liked the corns at any point actually) while all my others task were mining. This was great for me but meant each player had a different experience. Imagine having to hunt Defenders at each stage, and for a player that didn't know where to find the lower HP/weaker defenders, or without the right gear or enough PED to play? I got very lucky...

I resigned myself to the fact that I could never have hoped to compete because I couldn't get online at the start time for each stage. However this appears to be completely irrelevant now - so long as you complete the first two stages, in your own time, (unless you were trying for the bonus points and prizes of course) you are still in with a chance.

"Tip: in order to complete the mission chain you must overcome an additional challenge. In this challenge your chance of success increases with every completed attempt."

This could be quite quick (in a matter of hours) or could effectively go on for weeks or months while players make more and more attempts until the prize pops up. Great for MA of course - perhaps they are deliberately waiting for more players to get there and go through attempt after attempt until they decide the flip the switch and Bingo, we have a winner!

I'm perplexed at why this Matrix is there ready and waiting but players can't get in. It's shocking, actually. Imagine someone making plans to take part in this - eg time off work, changing schedules or family plans etc (which I did not do myself, I might add!) - and finding that they can't play because the Matrix doesn't work and that player can't do what he/she had planned for? How frustrating for them.

Progresss so far = FAIL

I cannot get past the Enter the Enigma /Find the riddle ...

Just plain 2 often falling off Pipes .. (even not moving, did fall 2 times ... /also pipes just passing through half of Ava....)

Even flipping both switched ... door not opening...

Jumping "shortcut" = 100% not long enough jump...


Looks like MA likes pixxed customers ...


Resnis

Resnis said:

I cannot get past the Enter the Enigma /Find the riddle ...

Just plain 2 often falling off Pipes .. (even not moving, did fall 2 times ... /also pipes just passing through half of Ava....)

Even flipping both switched ... door not opening...

Jumping "shortcut" = 100% not long enough jump...


Looks like MA likes pixxed customers ...


Resnis

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Just a matter of practice and using a mouse (not touchpad) use 1st person mode as you can look at your feet before walking towards, you have about 10-20 seconds to hit the second switch. Or try the method O2 posted where you jump off a pipe into the pool

Steveyneo said:

Great for MA of course - perhaps they are deliberately waiting for more players to get there and go through attempt after attempt until they decide the flip the switch and Bingo, we have a winner!

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The bit I am perplexed by is how we qualify for our completion rewards. It would appear not to be simply going through the final beacon once, as some people have managed that, so I guess each player needs to loot their own egg - and for the points placements that is the first six people to do that.

My feeling is that, like Einstein's quote about a different entity, MA does not play dice! (until they are ready to).
This would mean that the chances right now of looting an egg are either zero, or very close to it (if they have programmed in some slither of a chance in a zillion to cover their butts). Then, as you say, when enough people have been through many times, they will 'magically' increase the chances as an 'adjustment', so that 'somebody' can win fairly quickly all of a sudden - and everyone else will suddenly find it easier to complete too.

Statistically, though, it's going to be pretty odd if that's how it turns out - and not much of a game of chance as such.... more like switching people from a single number on roulette to red/black instead, but by a factor of x!

Resnis said:

I cannot get past the Enter the Enigma /Find the riddle ...

Just plain 2 often falling off Pipes .. (even not moving, did fall 2 times ... /also pipes just passing through half of Ava....)

Even flipping both switched ... door not opening...

Jumping "shortcut" = 100% not long enough jump...


Looks like MA likes pixxed customers ...


Resnis

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Falling through the pipes us lag on ur end I had no issue with the pipes. Only fell off 2 times due to fright the bombs going off made me jump a few times some times they had explosion and sound sometimes they didn't but u still take damage.

There is a bug with the switches I figured out what it is and how it works with repeatable results and I informed MA about that bug and how it works.

Since u suck at it ill give you a hint. Don't kill ALL the robots

jetsina said:

The bit I am perplexed by is how we qualify for our completion rewards. It would appear not to be simply going through the final beacon once, as some people have managed that, so I guess each player needs to loot their own egg - and for the points placements that is the first six people to do that.

My feeling is that, like Einstein's quote about a different entity, MA does not play dice! (until they are ready to).
This would mean that the chances right now of looting an egg are either zero, or very close to it (if they have programmed in some slither of a chance in a zillion to cover their butts). Then, as you say, when enough people have been through many times, they will 'magically' increase the chances as an 'adjustment', so that 'somebody' can win fairly quickly all of a sudden - and everyone else will suddenly find it easier to complete too.

Statistically, though, it's going to be pretty odd if that's how it turns out - and not much of a game of chance as such.... more like switching people from a single number on roulette to red/black instead, but by a factor of x!

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i would think they have preprogrammed a certain number of pulls and it will loot on the 1000th pull or somthing. after that it'll become 1in4 so people can get their jumpsuits

aaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhhh

The Jetman said:

i would think they have preprogrammed a certain number of pulls and it will loot on the 1000th pull or somthing. after that it'll become 1in4 so people can get their jumpsuits

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I wanna shoot a free instance Just let me in I don't even care about winning!

The Jetman said:

i would think they have preprogrammed a certain number of pulls and it will loot on the 1000th pull or somthing. after that it'll become 1in4 so people can get their jumpsuits

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Ahh, like the 1000th customer, or so? Yes, I like the idea... so it can't be what they have done, surely?

When get the matrix instance fixed, so ppl can enter it, without only getting a message it is done?
This is realy anoying, after 8 hour of play enigma 3, and then stay at the entrance of the matrix and just get this message.

Fyi to the people stuck on the riddle instance. I did it today no pills no jumping into the water just running fast hitting the switches...

3 nights now trying to get into this stupid Matrix...it sounds like some people are getting in, while most just stand around an inactive disco ball. Is anyone in??

It seems kind of pointless to go in if no one can finish anyway. Waste of ped.

another MA fleece operation...

My first rant, but a relevant one at that. MA is screwing all players who cannot be online at the exact moment the event goes live. That excludes a lot of steady depositors with jobs (which means we cannot be online 24/7). To be exact, MA transfers 60k ped from our pockets (the depositing, working lot) into a lucky few which for some reason have an excess of time on their hands to stay plugged into the online EU casino around the clock. This event excludes the majority of the EU player base. Should we be paying for this? No. MA, you've seen the last $$$ from my pocket.

LavaSparks said:

My first rant, but a relevant one at that. MA is screwing all players who cannot be online at the exact moment the event goes live. That excludes a lot of steady depositors with jobs (which means we cannot be online 24/7). To be exact, MA transfers 60k ped from our pockets (the depositing, working lot) into a lucky few which for some reason have an excess of time on their hands to stay plugged into the online EU casino around the clock. This event excludes the majority of the EU player base. Should we be paying for this? No. MA, you've seen the last $$$ from my pocket.

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LavaSparks - Joined February 2018 - no listing of Avatar name and no ref on Entropia Life to the avatar - just saying not sure your input is valid and no one is forcing you to do the mission

moondog said:

LavaSparks - Joined February 2018 - no listing of Avatar name and no ref on Entropia Life to the avatar - just saying not sure your input is valid and no one is forcing you to do the mission

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the avatar is Katla Vulkana Vulkansdottir, with hidden EL profile. so can't comment further

but whilst it is annoying when you have work and RL, thats the way it goes, when they push updates on tuesdays, by the time i get home all the discoveries are all found. but at this moment there is no sign MA will activate it whilst we work, it could (hopefully) be set to return on a weekend (3 day weekend for us brits)
with it looking like a quite rare find, it might not matter if we can't start the matrix until 6 hours later

moondog said:

LavaSparks - Joined February 2018 - no listing of Avatar name and no ref on Entropia Life to the avatar - just saying not sure your input is valid and no one is forcing you to do the mission

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Yes, no one is forcing to do it. But besite this, this event is bugged and much frustrating, if you stay at the matrix, and can't enter it, or can enter, but you don't get the mission finished.
MA could send out a post, so ppl know it and wait of a solution.

How ever. the whole event is failed, from planing, developing, and also monitoring and send out info to ppl.
I could write a list, of all the issues, i find in all the enigma event. But why i should help MA, if they don't care about us players, and just send out copy past support respond's.

One more bad thing is, that this is one more bad promotion for this game. Realy sad, about this enigma event had a podenzial to be a nice event. But with all the issue and bad planing, it just end up in a big fail and player frustrating experiance.

Hopefully this event will get a happy end! (The hope die's last!)

moondog said:

LavaSparks - Joined February 2018 - no listing of Avatar name and no ref on Entropia Life to the avatar - just saying not sure your input is valid and no one is forcing you to do the mission

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Date of joining a forum or entropialife history doesnt make an opinion less valid. An opinion is what it is.

moondog said:

LavaSparks - Joined February 2018 - no listing of Avatar name and no ref on Entropia Life to the avatar - just saying not sure your input is valid and no one is forcing you to do the mission

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The whole point of this event was to capitalize on Ready Player One's release and gain new players. Do new players opinions are the most valuable in this situation

moondog said:

LavaSparks - Joined February 2018 - no listing of Avatar name and no ref on Entropia Life to the avatar - just saying not sure your input is valid and no one is forcing you to do the mission

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When someone registered on the forum is completely irrelevant. He presents a good point, yours is shit. Patronizing others pointing at forum creation date is a worthless methodology yet it's way too common around here. It has no connection to insight or quality of posts whatsoever.

Many times forum account creation date is not even close to the amount of years of EU experience a person has. There are many players who don't join the forum until several years into their EU career. Even when that's not the case we shouldn't be so quick to judge, there are new players with good understanding already and there are old players who's been lost causes since birth.

Back on topic. Essentially, my stance on the Matrix issue is that those who finished the 8 fragment stages, the Riddle and arrived at the Matrix the quickest should be at an advantage since that was the essence of this event; speed. By now, that advantage is completely blown due to the bug and I guess can't be repaired. But opening up the instance at a random time without announcements would be pure lottery and totally unfair. Better with a lockdown, resetting everyone's chance of looting the egg, then announcing a reopening date and time. Probably also a good idea spreading out the entrance points.