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    Quote Originally Posted by Me Really Never View Post
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    you killed it wiht 1 damage hit but did you miss before the death hit?
    Sorry for late reply, I know that I didn't miss on that kill.

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    Idk what the damage is with a labrys. Is there overkill there? I think 2.0 factors that in to a degree. 11k multi I don’t think exists.

    Or how much ped is spent for 1 swing?
    Labrys dmg is 7-14, so you will overkill that mob most of the time.
    One swing is 3.4 pec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock Holmes View Post
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    Labrys dmg is 7-14, so you will overkill that mob most of the time.
    One swing is 3.4 pec
    I did some b101 farming on puny defenders around fort sifilus, for my disciple. my knife does 121 dmg per swing
    I don't know the hp of these puny defenders but its extreme overkill. I did get 3x b101, 5x azuro, and 5 rubios and some rocketlaunchers and 2 globals of around 13 ped. end result was profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawn View Post
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    I did some b101 farming on puny defenders around fort sifilus, for my disciple. my knife does 121 dmg per swing
    I don't know the hp of these puny defenders but its extreme overkill. I did get 3x b101, 5x azuro, and 5 rubios and some rocketlaunchers and 2 globals of around 13 ped. end result was profit.
    There you go, its statistically unbiased proven that overdamage is the way for prosperity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawn View Post
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    I did some b101 farming on puny defenders around fort sifilus, for my disciple. my knife does 121 dmg per swing
    I don't know the hp of these puny defenders but its extreme overkill. I did get 3x b101, 5x azuro, and 5 rubios and some rocketlaunchers and 2 globals of around 13 ped. end result was profit.
    You got me curious here.
    So i went to sisyphus with my spirit + dante (92 dmg) and (just) 40 ped ammo.
    The first 35 ped of ammo I shot using a 4 dmg finisher, getting next to no overkill.
    2 spirit shots usually leaves just a sliver of health on the defenders.
    Did not loot a single item.

    Then with my last few shots I didnt use the finisher and just shot 3 times, so getting around 50~90 overkill.
    First mob I heavily overkilled gave a 36 ped global (including full TT LLC1).
    Then nearly each kill with huge overkill gave me an item.
    With the last 40 ped (without finisher) I looted 6 B101's, 6 Azuro's, 6 lanceheads and 2 EP2's.

    So, first 40 ped without overkill using a finisher, not a single item.
    The last 40 ped with overkill without finisher, 20 items.

    Now I know it's just a small sample size, but this seemed quite extreme.
    wi

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    You got me curious here.
    So i went to sisyphus with my spirit + dante (92 dmg) and (just) 40 ped ammo.
    The first 35 ped of ammo I shot using a 4 dmg finisher, getting next to no overkill.
    2 spirit shots usually leaves just a sliver of health on the defenders.
    Did not loot a single item.

    Then with my last few shots I didnt use the finisher and just shot 3 times, so getting around 50~90 overkill.
    First mob I heavily overkilled gave a 36 ped global (including full TT LLC1).
    Then nearly each kill with huge overkill gave me an item.
    With the last 40 ped (without finisher) I looted 6 B101's, 6 Azuro's, 6 lanceheads and 2 EP2's.

    So, first 40 ped without overkill using a finisher, not a single item.
    The last 40 ped with overkill without finisher, 20 items.

    Now I know it's just a small sample size, but this seemed quite extreme.
    ive done quite a few of them and all with the same gun with near to zero overkill. there is the typical bullshit wave loot again at work. i get no item for half an hour and then every fucking item they can drop drops for like 5 to 10 mins and then its back to nothing again. you just switched tactics at wave change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Me Really Never View Post
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    ive done quite a few of them and all with the same gun with near to zero overkill. there is the typical bullshit wave loot again at work. i get no item for half an hour and then every fucking item they can drop drops for like 5 to 10 mins and then its back to nothing again. you just switched tactics at wave change.
    Yeah perfectly possible, so Ill give it another few attempts.

    *edit*

    Yes, it was clearly a case of a wave that struck me during my switch of tactics.

    Did an 80 ped run, just overkilling, same setup.
    In total just 2 azuros's with a 60% (or a little more) return run.
    So, total crap.

    *edit 2*
    Another 80 ped run, not single item. around 90% return.
    Last edited by wizz; 05-31-2018 at 11:57.
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    Yeah perfectly possible, so Ill give it another few attempts.

    *edit*

    Yes, it was clearly a case of a wave that struck me during my switch of tactics.

    Did an 80 ped run, just overkilling, same setup.
    In total just 2 azuros's with a 60% (or a little more) return run.
    So, total crap.
    when people dont get bored to easily they could just take a very eco gun, go to that spot, kill one mob every minute or 30 seconds and as soon as an item drops put out the huge gun one shotting them all and make profit. its boring as hell, its abusing the badly designed system and its fucking over all other people hunting there for markup because the stuff you get they cant get (as its usually a fixed amount of items to drop in each wave).

    so all in all: if you dont get bored easily and you wanne abuse the system and be a dick its quite easy to profit :-)
    well designed MA

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    Thread has gone from 'ATH post 2.0' to 'puny defenders' in less than 2 pages.

    Guess that answered it.

    Next!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LuisArkadov View Post
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    Thread has gone from 'ATH post 2.0' to 'puny defenders' in less than 2 pages.

    Guess that answered it.

    Next!

    Right. Oops, guess that was a bit off topic I guess.

    Ah well, at least I can confirm I didn't get that ATH from a defender.
    wi

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