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    Quote Originally Posted by jambon View Post
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    Wait... what? Special caves???
    The uber aluira (can't spell that).

    You go down the stairs at CP where the shop stalls are and you see a shimmering wall. If you've done the 5K mission in the normal domes, you're allowed to run through that wall and into the caves.

    I assume that rule still applies.

    Some of them are not too hard to take on to be fair, even in Gremlin. Some of the top level ones are nasty buggers.

    Players loot the bones there to upgrade the 5B plates. I could never find the bones myself, but was fun up there.

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    Is there date when we can buy some shares from CP?

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    Feels better to put the deeds in the loot on the mobs on CP.
    That will generate more money into the system than it would by selling the deeds in the shop.
    Or maybe both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelleman View Post
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    Feels better to put the deeds in the loot on the mobs on CP.
    That will generate more money into the system than it would by selling the deeds in the shop.
    Or maybe both.

    Cheers!
    Bad idea just because newbies could not get them. Or then puny have to drop them aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxeMurderer View Post
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    Is there date when we can buy some shares from CP?
    Same question.

    Also I'd like to see some confirmation of:

    1. 17% ROI, is that of the new sale price or the last sale price? If latter, MA please confirm amount.
    2. Estates need investment to run them IIRC? So if many thousands of players own deeds, who controls the running of the estate? buys dung and so forth - that kinda thing?
    3. Future development. An Estate owner can request developments from MA, which may get ignored/charged through the nose for, but in the case of CP who would be able to make the request? Some sort of majority share holder? a share holder voting system like IRL? What's the plan there? Is there even a plan?
    4. Can we get some official info on what CP actually consists of? As Buzz mentioned there was a lot of elements to the deeds to cover various enhancements etc from over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wistrel View Post
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    Same question.

    Also I'd like to see some confirmation of:

    1. 17% ROI, is that of the new sale price or the last sale price? If latter, MA please confirm amount.
    2. Estates need investment to run them IIRC? So if many thousands of players own deeds, who controls the running of the estate? buys dung and so forth - that kinda thing?
    3. Future development. An Estate owner can request developments from MA, which may get ignored/charged through the nose for, but in the case of CP who would be able to make the request? Some sort of majority share holder? a share holder voting system like IRL? What's the plan there? Is there even a plan?
    4. Can we get some official info on what CP actually consists of? As Buzz mentioned there was a lot of elements to the deeds to cover various enhancements etc from over the years.
    These deeds are the same as CLD, no voting rights, no rights what so ever. You can request all you want, but only in the same way you can request changes on Calypso.
    Run by MA, just like calypso, no need for dung.
    Buzz gets the revenue from selling the CLD's but MA own/run it.

    From Buzz' thread:
    'Mindark would be taking care of the deeds, sale and everything they need to do in order to implement and make this a reality. They have valued CP and they will share the sale revenue in order to accommodate this change and costs associated with such an endeavor. After the announcement many people have been asking me for more infomation about it. I hope MA will be able to give some more details for all those who had questions about it all in the near future. '

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    So when and how will these deeds be available for sale? Would be fun to own a couple just for historical sake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiona Simmons View Post
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    Those kind of investments are a double edged sword for mindark! You can raise a lot of money with it but a part of all the roi will not be used ingame or re invested but withdrawed. Since we have way more peds in game than usd on mindarks bank account this will ultimatly lead into a situation were at one point, if this kind of deed sale continue, will break the buissnes modell and withdrawels will get refused or prolonged. If that happen not mindark will suffer, but all who weren't able to convert their peds into usd anymore. Maybe CP is an exeption since the current owner maybe withdrawed most of the money anyways but i see a clear trend to create large areas and sell them into tiny pices.
    In part this is why splitting the land into very tiny pieces is a really good idea. If a lot of people are buying only a few shares, which might be the case at $1 a deed then one would have to to own them for a long time to reach the 1K ped minimum withdrawal.

    My guess is that a large part of the peds from deeds like AUD get cycled back into the economy rather than withdrawn. Whereas individuals paying for LAs probably withdraw most of the peds to pay themselves back.

    Could be totally wrong just my 2 pecs

    I'm happy to see that CP will be priced for all levels of participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew View Post
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    In part this is why splitting the land into very tiny pieces is a really good idea. If a lot of people are buying only a few shares, which might be the case at $1 a deed then one would have to to own them for a long time to reach the 1K ped minimum withdrawal.

    My guess is that a large part of the peds from deeds like AUD get cycled back into the economy rather than withdrawn. Whereas individuals paying for LAs probably withdraw most of the peds to pay themselves back.

    Could be totally wrong just my 2 pecs

    I'm happy to see that CP will be priced for all levels of participants.
    not if the price is too low tho, if they split the land into 1$ pieces and they go fast so a group of investor can buy it they will withdraw 2$deed very fast, unless they put a cap on purchase per person or they make them account bound.

    i think they should start considering deeds account bond, obtainable by paying ped or by doin special missions.

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