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Alukat123

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crafting/hunting/mining combined:

a week to get 200 PED closer to 95% , then 24 hours of one shit return run after another and being 1000 PED further away from 95% and no, there's not a 1000 PED hof at the end, stuck with those 1000 PED missing for 95% for whenever MA/the game decides to finally give a uber...

Sure, there shouldn't be static 95% return all the time, but building "missing for 95%" that rapidly is just pure shit...

MA failed miserably at reducing the volatility, all that i can see so far is that their attempt of reducing the volatility has drastically increased it...

Edit: talking here about 2+k click-size
 
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Alukat123 said:
...building "missing for 95%" that rapidly is just pure shit...
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pure coincidence i had 59,62% Return of Investment today. is it?
:broke:
 
on 93.6% TT return so far... 104.3% after MU, things seem as they should be.
Also the average being 95% doesn't mean you will achieve that...its an average, not a fixed amount everyone gets.
 
both of you are missing the point...

point being, getting one 75% return run after another isn't fun D:
I want the one 90+% return run after another from pre 2.0 back, i want the volatility to get reduced to what it was before 2.0...
 
dynamic! :) maybe u just on ur "bad days" :) i had this period for 1y, but this was before loot 2. Now i see same, some ppl hof, some ppl pay for those hofs. + the more ppl online, the better loot :)
 
GGG said:
dynamic! :) maybe u just on ur "bad days" :)
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that may be case, however, they should make the bad days less bad. That would be quite easy, just make the 25% near success 40% and the 50% into 75% or drastically lower their appearence... way higher base return and the bad days won't be that bad anymore...

i've looted quad-wing BP yesterday, normally i would be all excited about it, but i'm at -515,47 in TT-return, so even with the 350 PED from quad BP it's still loss thanks to 77,59% return.. nothing to be excited about...
 
My weekend results while crafting were so good (more than 4k lost in several runs, only one >100%, most of them <70%), that I decided to go back to sweating.
 
just keep refilling the pool and stop crying maybe another 232k ath will happen today :lolup:
 
Im sub 94% TT after 3.3m+ turned (crafting only), nothing new here (for me)
 
Alukat123 said:
crafting/hunting/mining combined:

Sure, there shouldn't be static 95% return all the time, but building "missing for 95%" that rapidly is just pure shit...

MA failed miserably at reducing the volatility, all that i can see so far is that their attempt of reducing the volatility has drastically increased it...
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If you believe MA can have a surviving businessmodel with only 5% of our deposits, your clearly mistaken :). I think (not sure tho) casino slots have a 40/60 ratio, not 95/5.
 
Alukat123 said:
crafting/hunting/mining combined:

a week to get 200 PED closer to 95% , then 24 hours of one shit return run after another and being 1000 PED further away from 95% and no, there's not a 1000 PED hof at the end, stuck with those 1000 PED missing for 95% for whenever MA/the game decides to finally give a uber...

Sure, there shouldn't be static 95% return all the time, but building "missing for 95%" that rapidly is just pure shit...

MA failed miserably at reducing the volatility, all that i can see so far is that their attempt of reducing the volatility has drastically increased it...
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You need to be more eco/uneco blah blah you need blah blah different gun/finder blah blah go for dmg amp blah blah markup blah blah 94,245354% and 96,435345% blah blah sell on auction blah cycling 1000k^123 ped is not enough sample blah blah blah change mob blah blah MindArk must have their share blah blah bleeeehgrplph casino always wins blah blah best returns on sunday night blah blah arkadia blah blaah low capso deed roi blah blah blaaaah...

what if you are just unlucky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
 
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Crimis said:
If you believe MA can have a surviving businessmodel with only 5% of our deposits, your clearly mistaken :). I think (not sure tho) casino slots have a 40/60 ratio, not 95/5.
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Even with 95% return they survive by keeping 100% of our deposits, assuming you tt everything and cycle on.
It only affects how much playing you get out of your depo.

Example:
1000 PED with 80% return:
1000 PED run > 800 PED run > 640 PED run > 512 PED run > 409,6 PED run > 327,68 PED run
after 6 runs they have 67,32% of your depo

1000 PED with 95% return:
1000 PED run > 950 PED run > 902,5 PED run > 857,375 PED run > 814,5062 PED run > 773,7809 PED run
after 6 runs they have 22,62% of your depo.
 
Alukat123 said:
Even with 95% return they survive by keeping 100% of our deposits, assuming you tt everything and cycle on.
It only affects how much playing you get out of your depo.

Example:
1000 PED with 80% return:
1000 PED run > 800 PED run > 640 PED run > 512 PED run > 409,6 PED run > 327,68 PED run
after 6 runs they have 67,32% of your depo

1000 PED with 95% return:
1000 PED run > 950 PED run > 902,5 PED run > 857,375 PED run > 814,5062 PED run > 773,7809 PED run
after 6 runs they have 22,62% of your depo.
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and then....

[URL="https://pasteboard.co/HTFUpEgj.jpg"]https://pasteboard.co/HTFUpEgj.jpg[/URL]

:laugh::laugh:
 
Crimis said:
If you believe MA can have a surviving businessmodel with only 5% of our deposits, your clearly mistaken :). I think (not sure tho) casino slots have a 40/60 ratio, not 95/5.
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Sorry, but you are so wrong. Lotteries generally return about 50% in prizes. Slot machines and other casino games have much, much, much, much better odds. It is perfectly normal for a slot machine to return 92-97%, and I don't think you'll find much worse unless you frequent unregulated casinos.

As for the whiny lot on this thread, learn what 'average' means, and 'random' while your at it. If you are losing too much, too fast, then you have one problem - too much ped per click for your bankroll/nerve/whatever that controls your play.

Peace, Miles
 
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Miles said:
As for the whiny lot on this thread, learn what 'average' means, and 'random' while your at it. If you are losing too much, too fast, then you have one problem - too much ped per click for your bankroll/nerve/whatever that controls your play.
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No, it's just shit return... they should get back to the good old 1000 clicks 90+% return instead of sticking to the current shitty 3000 clicks , you may end up with 75% return ....

btw, i know what average and random means, yet i don't have to like shit odds/results.
The issue of that high volatility only exists since they've failed to reduce the volatility...
 
Alukat123 said:
The issue of that high volatility only exists since they've failed to reduce the volatility...
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Let me guess... they tried and their bigger customers didn't like it?
 
Miles said:
Sorry, but you are so wrong. Lotteries generally return about 50% in prizes. Slot machines and other casino games have much, much, much, much better odds. It is perfectly normal for a slot machine to return 92-97%, and I don't you'll find much worse unless you frequent unregulated casinos.

As for the whiny lot on this thread, learn what 'average' means, and 'random' while your at it. If you are losing too much, too fast, then you have one problem - too much ped per click for your bankroll/nerve/whatever that controls your play.

Peace, Miles
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I am not the one complaining, just stating the fact that casino's have a better pay table then MA does. Basicly the same as you are saying so glad you agreed :)
 
Started whit +500 and endet whit -900 . Not complaining because i enjoyed my time spend :yay:
 
Haruto Rat said:
Let me guess... they tried and their bigger customers didn't like it?
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their bigger customers did want to hof big on small stuff, because they didn't find the condition slider, wasn't there something like that?
 
Alukat123 said:
their bigger customers did want to hof big on small stuff, because they didn't find the condition slider, wasn't there something like that?
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I can't get into the mind of an explosive crafter but iirc there was some decline in activity when MA started to tinker with volatility. So I guess they promptly returned the settings to 'last known good configuration'.
 
Alukat123 said:
No, it's just shit return... they should get back to the good old 1000 clicks 90+% return instead of sticking to the current shitty 3000 clicks , you may end up with 75% return ....
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Have you tried hunting or mining???? Yes returns can hit 75%, yes it can happen multiple times in a row....guess what, it happens everywhere. Hunters can have the same issue, so can miners. Its how the whole game works, not just one profession. THe game wont change just for you, you need to adapt to the game.

Also i know EL isn't a good representation of your activities, but going by what is showing, perhaps you need to rethink what you craft, you show alot of Roadie BLP Amp Mk I, Shack-A-Lacka Laser Amp Mk I & Nallo Ceiling Lamp. These are not MU items so you will be feeding them to the TT machine alot unless you use them yourself. Your overall returns will suffer as well because of this. Unless you have a buyer who is constantly after them (which if you do, congrats), then you might as well just do explosives as its cheaper to feed the TT machine.
 
Darth Revan said:
Have you tried hunting or mining???? Yes returns can hit 75%, yes it can happen multiple times in a row....guess what, it happens everywhere. Hunters can have the same issue, so can miners. Its how the whole game works, not just one profession. THe game wont change just for you, you need to adapt to the game.
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I know that it can happen, that doesn't make it any better...
right, the game will just adjust to people who want it to be more volatile so they can ATH on basic filters on quanity and on puny mobs...

Darth Revan said:
Also i know EL isn't a good representation of your activities, but going by what is showing, perhaps you need to rethink what you craft, you show alot of Roadie BLP Amp Mk I, Shack-A-Lacka Laser Amp Mk I & Nallo Ceiling Lamp. These are not MU items so you will be feeding them to the TT machine alot unless you use them yourself. Your overall returns will suffer as well because of this.
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you still don't get that it's not about the long run with MU do you?
And now back to ignoring you.
 
So much salt here.... and a lot of folks didn't read my risk of ruin thread I see.
 

Forrest Gump was told that life was like a box of chocolates.


Entropia life however is more like the above video...
 
atomicstorm said:
So much salt here.... and a lot of folks didn't read my risk of ruin thread I see.
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so many folks here, who don't get that it isn't about being ruined but that having those waves of getting one 75% return run after another not being fun but they're very demotivating....
 
atomicstorm said:
So much salt here.... and a lot of folks didn't read my risk of ruin thread I see.
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You only want people to agree with you it seems, every comment you don't like you seem to classify as bullshit or salty...
 
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