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Enough is enough - Strongbox

morfoc said:
Your disappointment is understandable, but we can assure you that you are not doing anything wrong. Entropia Universe is not static, it is constantly changing and therefore, you might have a better experience next time.
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Everything moves in this game except your ideas in your empty head.Its locked back in 2006.
Now everything makes sense.Even mindark is pointing you out but you can't read.
 
messi91 said:
Everything moves in this game except your ideas in your empty head.Its locked back in 2006.
Now everything makes sense.Even mindark is pointing you out but you can't read.
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:laugh: precisely you talk about year you do not know, there was nothing special in 2006 or 2007/2008 nobody wants to go back people want to find the pleasure of before but you do not understand the subtlety ,
being in the top10 is nothing difficult, myself I reached the top15 without much difficulty last month, just a question of input as you say.
you can not help the community and prefer to make the super "smart":laugh: man simply because you have nothing different compared to others just a few manual help of MA that have existed since the beginning of EU.
 
messi91 said:
Opening boxes to get a ring is stupid thinking you will loot one leads to frustration.
You should open boxes just for the added value from those boxes.It has nothing to do with gambling.Everything else on top of your money deposited is extra ADDED VALUE.
Its gambling only if you are a casino player and everything you do has something to do with gambling.
If you are fine with the fact that if you deposit 10k usd and you get back 10k usd + extra stuff you can't be angry and you will never be frustrated.
In poker is called value bet when you want to extract few extra% for your hand.This is why EU is not a Casino but a big poker room where the best players always wins.
Buy peds from webshop end of story.This way some losers won't say that you are forced to shoot peds with it so you can directly spend it anywhere you like.
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Yes but when you open seasonal boxes, the added value from the boxes isn't free, as the boxes have MU :)
 
Jhereg said:
Yes but when you open seasonal boxes, the added value from the boxes isn't free, as the boxes have MU :)
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added value doesn't always mean from 0 to 1 million units.Sometimes added value can be from 1 to 2.
whats your point?You just discovered that seasonal boxes got markup?Sell them and cash some peds then.
 
messi91 said:
added value doesn't always mean from 0 to 1 million units.Sometimes added value can be from 1 to 2.
whats your point?You just discovered that seasonal boxes got markup?Sell them and cash some peds then.
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My point is, which I am sure you might be purposefully ignoriing, is that, in contrast with the regular strongboxes, which has no market value, the seasonal strongboxes do. Therefore, the MU, or what you are calling added value, of the items in them are not free, but have some initial cost involved either in getting the boxes through a purchase, or even looting them, where you suffer TT decay from hunting.

To use your poker analogy, you wouldn't chase a flush with poor pot odds. But MA is really opaque about the odds of the items in the boxes.
 
Jhereg said:
My point is, which I am sure you might be purposefully ignoriing, is that, in contrast with the regular strongboxes, which has no market value, the seasonal strongboxes do. Therefore, the MU, or what you are calling added value, of the items in them are not free, but have some initial cost involved either in getting the boxes through a purchase, or even looting them, where you suffer TT decay from hunting.

To use your poker analogy, you wouldn't chase a flush with poor pot odds. But MA is really opaque about the odds of the items in the boxes.
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Did i said anything about regular strongboxes? NO.
So the seasonal strongboxes got markup ok.Sell them cash the peds don't get involved easy win OR open them and YES they got markup (guess what I know they do have markup by now) but there is still added value on top of the markup you already pay or if you loot them and open so you don't have extra % buying from reseller.
You clearly never been playing poker do you?Value bet is when your hand is ALREADY COMPLETED , you are not chasing anything because you are not a dumb casino player , you want to extract some value from your opponent(s) if they want to see your hand.
Everything you post I already know.You don't say anything new.You just don't know what you are saying and you see things from a medium player standpoint.I been there and done that.
 
messi91 said:
Did i said anything about regular strongboxes? NO.
So the seasonal strongboxes got markup ok.Sell them cash the peds don't get involved easy win OR open them and YES they got markup (guess what I know they do have markup by now) but there is still added value on top of the markup you already pay or if you loot them and open so you don't have extra % buying from reseller.
You clearly never been playing poker do you?Value bet is when your hand is ALREADY COMPLETED , you are not chasing anything because you are not a dumb casino player , you want to extract some value from your opponent(s) if they want to see your hand.
Everything you post I already know.You don't say anything new.You just don't know what you are saying and you see things from a medium player standpoint.I been there and done that.
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1) Re: added value, this assumes you know your average MU from seasonal strongbox loot exceeds the MU of the boxes themselves. Based on my estimated numbers, even at 2 ped a box, they don't. So you might as well buy them from someone who opened boxes for you for market price. (Unless you want to gamble, which is totally okay too.)

2) Please look up pot odds, clearly you've never seriously played poker yourself :).

3) You know, I don't really know what it means to be a medium player and why you might think I am one, or why you are so MUCH better than a medium player as myself, so please enlighten me :).
 
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BuStLe said:
Right to the point, too busy shooting:

I've spent ~10k USD on strongbox alone in the last 2-3 years and best I've looted in value was L-amplifer Delta. How is it possible/fair to see some players loot more then one event ring? some of them in a row? :mad::cussing:

I've been supporting this game for years and I feel like the more I deposit the less chance I have. This feels like making fun of me right in my f*** face.

Need to spit this out i've been holding this for myself for too long.
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