UnaAlconbury
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You have a lot of valid points UnaAlconbury
All I'm 'suggesting', is that there're a lot more avenues or shall I say options to withdraw than what existed previously. That's not a bad thing....MA can sell that up with good PR.
What I'm saying is, if a group of investors are getting say $5000 profit from what ever that investment they own, and regularly pull sums like that out of the game....then it needs $5000 of deposits to balance that back.
But that doesn't include overhead cost to run the entire game....that requires more 'real' cash.
So it's fair to assume that a lot of income to MA is going to those investors. Again I'm not saying that is wrong....I'm just saying that costs more real money.
Many players will use their deed income to play the game....all good. But we can not deny it, there are professional investors within EU, with the 'only' ambition to use the game as real life income and not play at all. So someone has to pay!!!!
But this 5k profit comes from other players, with already deposited peds, right? It's not that MA desperately need to get an extra 5k to make up for it when these investors withdraw, they are already up that from the deposited peds by the other players for the consumption of the investors' service. Get the difference?
If you don't like your money going to other players and want to maximize what you get out of your deposits, don't hunt taxed areas for example. I never do unless I can loot more extra markup than what I pay in tax, and the difference between those two is better than the markup I can get anywhere else.
MA sacrifices a few longterm percentages of the normal 5% share (on that LA for example, to pick something) in trade for a big initial deposit, which in turn can fuel another investment on MA's part, for example. In several cases it probably also means a bigger net profit for MA anyway, due to an active investor marketing the service and raising overall activity that way, something MA might not have had the capacity to do.
So that there are more avenues of withdrawal is not necessarily a bad thing for MA. Those withdrawals are created by other players' already deposited peds. As I said before, MA profit from ingame activity, interaction with the loot pool. Their longterm profit is already ensured by the system, the activity just decides how big it will be in net value.
This do cover their overhead costs. Yeah, sometimes they decide to cut off a few % to investors, but in many cases that is a win both short and long term and not just short term.
Yeah I get that, asking that is perfectly normal and is encouraged but that's not what everyone is talking about in this thread. It's about you throwing wild assumptions, accusations and plain out false information around you. Many people have already tried to direct you and point at mistakes you are making, a recent example being Backbone's post #161 or bigdaddy in #172. Which seems to have been flying over your head, yet again.I understand MA are trying to move and balance an oil tanker, and they've done very well at steering that for 15 years. Good to them, well done. I have no issues. But it still doesn't mitigate my concern wondering what percentage of my deposited cash supports costs that don't benefit me.
Again not a problem....it's choice.
Look I don't hate EU at all, I hope the game continues. I'm just thinking how much is it going to cost me moving forward. That's fair questions to raise. and normal to think about such issues.
Hear me out, this is not an aggressive attack so don't take it the wrong way, but you are making poor decisions, that is your problem and the main reason for the peds not lasting longer. It's no one else's fault but yours, and there is no such thing as cursed avatars, MA micromanaging distribution or sourcing everything to a selected few. This is just delusion and silly conspiracy theories.
The volatility of loot should be lowered by MA so people don't need as big bankrolls to reach 95%, yes, I agree with that. But within these current circumstances, you are making bad decisions. Bad decisions and unwillingness to adapt, demanding the system to adapt to you rather than adapt to the system. Again, this is not your average leisure game, it's a real cash economy with the amazing upside of making real money. Of course it leads to competitiveness, just like in real life. Does the job market adapt to you IRL?
Sure, perfectly reasonable to not play when you don't like something. What you mention of bankroll needed vs the entertainment you get out is fair. It's what many players question lately. But it's the assumptions, accusations and false information you spread that is most people's problem with you on these forums.
This is a great idea of yours and would be very interesting to hear their words on today. What I can come up with regarding their hesitation 5 years ago is server capacity at the time. And poor newcomer guiding perhaps, which has been worked on since then. Albeit still far from perfect.I had a debate with an EU official n game. How would feel if handed out a load of EU flyers at main train stations in London some evenings after work (to what would be your core market)?
After some discussion the debate came down to this....."I'm not sure our system could cope with say 100K new avas"...….That debate was about 5 years ago....but is it still valid?