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    Of course the game is rigged, do you think this is a charity? They need a % cut to keep the game rolling and paying wages etc.

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    An indie game developer that doesn't understand the fundamentals of loot algorithms and how they are of course never random since that would be a total disaster?
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    So you can't TT profit long term, you have to go for markup? Outstanding findings, well done. Would have been news in about 2004.

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    While I think there is something to your theory (it makes sense), I think your premise is flawed. Of course the dice are loaded and the odds are in favor of the house. It must be that way for such a game to exist.

    I also believe you are mistaken about the markup bit. You seem to be indicating that MindArk counts markup into your overall return, and on that I believe you are wrong. The reason you were able to find rare ores unamped and not able to find rare ores when you amped is not because MindArk was counting markup into your overall returns, it's because there are value caps per individual claim on certain rare resources. When you exceed those value caps by amping you are no longer able to find those rare ores. That's all.

    It was an interesting read nonetheless, but it doesn't really change anything for us.
    Last edited by Captain Jack; 02-12-2019 at 00:44.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukat123 View Post
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    because tt-returns matter xD
    What good is 150% MU loot doing you when you run 50% TT-return? You'll still end up with loss ^^
    It's not any good. But I'll hunt ALL DAY AT 20% RETURN, losing 80% of my TT if that stuff reliably carries 1000% markup and good volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Weaver View Post
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    Yeah i was just going to say your math is way off. You need to find 20000 peds worth of markup.
    YEeeeah....oops. Well given on a far smaller scale I'm finding enough markup to keep myself alive, you get the point :P.

    HOWEVER, I will admit: when I step off the path of what I have learned works for me, I do get hurt far worse than I would consider 'acceptable' returns. But...it seems they're revising the game from the ground up focusing on the newcomer experience first, and I'd rather have that. I can pay a bit more while they do that.

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    For hunting at least: right mob, right time, right place
    you usually can get 2 of the 3 , but not all 3

    no matter how the loot works, there must be some randomness that keeps employees or people around them, etc from being able to exploit even if they know the "secret"

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    ..... meanwhile here is a picture of some lovely Bluebells ......


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    If you left this is not working. Simple as that.

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