Good Work MA

What the fuck are you still doing here?

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS is negative, offending, whining, whatever other negative adjective there is. If you are so unhappy, just leave and save us from all your negativity.

Usually i dont agree with Detritus, but im with him on this one. Geriatric people, mispleased with evolution and change. :scratch2:

yup i'm with detritis too. those negative nancys are set in their ways and seem to forget it was the negative people that drove MA to hide behind shields and layers of defenses. keep up the dooshbaggery and we'll get the same result: MA will go back behind the shield of non communication and we'll all be twice as fucked as before. be happy they are coming out to even talk to us and shut the fuck up:)
 
yup i'm with detritis too. those negative nancys are set in their ways and seem to forget it was the negative people that drove MA to hide behind shields and layers of defenses. keep up the dooshbaggery and we'll get the same result: MA will go back behind the shield of non communication and we'll all be twice as fucked as before. be happy they are coming out to even talk to us and shut the fuck up:)

They have done an AMA (whoopee doo)
A lot of the answers were very scarce and not really to the point, I even had to correct one of their replies, as it was a mistaken reply they had given.

Yes, they are more open now than they was a few years back, that at least is a good thing.
But it doesn't retract from the point, this new camera system has many flaws.

Edit, I meant answers, not questions.
 
I was a little worried that I'm a geriatric old fart as I positively hated the new system after a few minutes of trying it out. But, after an hour, I'm beginning to like it just a little tiny bit. Seems that I might just NOT be a geriatric old fart after all. :)
 
it seriously screws anyone who has put work into an efficient key setup

Cool story. You should have played the game back when they introduced loot 2.0 and people did not only put work into efficient setups, but also tens of thousands of $ :)

PS I know you did but... :)
 
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i have to agree, good job mindark! after a few hours i really enjoy the new controls already.

some more tweaking i guess, and we can finally build that spacewall, and make calypso pay for it. :silly2:
 
Nothing to add to OP, still at the beginning of the new learning curve but first impression is very nice! Everything is notably more responsive, which is a big improvement on low specs.

I also wish to report a smooth and hassle-free update on Linux. Cool!
 
So far I like it too.

Let's see how the hunting goes... :)
 
It's not just the geriatric old farts that don't like change (although I'm probably one of those) but it's also the disabled who have difficulty adjusting, especially when a number of features have been removed (auto-tool and next target were a Godsend for me, but now I doubt that I can physically play as much as I used to)

I agree, got the same problem, which adds to my frustration
 
can i please change it back? I cant play like this anymore..I can't figure out how to do this
 
Ima be positive... space wasn't completely fluffed :D Major VUs usually bring us all sorts of headaches!


Can work around the current bugs such as cant loot the mobs, until the patch :)

Flying in a quad seems more smooth and intuitive, and I like the hover over descriptions for armour etc.
 
I like the direction things are moving.[/I]

You may like it, many others don´t!

HEALER proffession KILLED

RIP

Sad for all who bought a FAP for over 5k$

Many thanks MA for killing another one of my investments into EU.
 
I'm not allowed to post in dev's corner, so posting this here. Hopefully MA will read it.

Dear MA:

Most VUs have classically been a disaster at best, and with something as fundamental as the camera/control system, I was definitely worried. It's clear you worked very hard on it, and IMO the quality of the release is fantastic. There's a lot of huge QoL improvements here, and the new system is vastly better than the old.

So far I've found only one minor bug with the icons, but everything else is working great (for hunting, at least). I had a few initial disappointments which were just learning curve for me, and not reading the docs properly.

You are going to have to deal with a shitload of geriatric old farts who don't like change, and there will be a ton of negativity surrounding this for the foreseeable future, so I just wanted you to have some positive feedback for a change.

I like the direction things are moving. You communicated this well, gave us nice previews, and I think it's a great release.

Looking forward to the next batch of improvements! :yay:




EDIT: I admit the geriatric comment was unnecessary, and a mistake. I apologize for greatly offending some people. I have left it for posterity, rather than edit it out. You guys can stop sending me death threats and hate mail.

Great post man, that's how I look at it aswell - to every point.

Many are also shocked to see the drag health-bar gone.
Early feb. they mentioned this - MA clearly stated that this created many unintended features - and was going to be removed, yet people seem to have missed it...

Laughed a little on the geariatric part, I must admit.. :laugh::rolleyes:
 
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the sad reality seems to be that they just prefer armor decay over fapper services
same way that Caly is preferred over planet partners
You may like it, many others don´t!
HEALER proffession KILLED
RIP
Sad for all who bought a FAP for over 5k$
Many thanks MA for killing another one of my investments into EU.
 
the sad reality seems to be that they just prefer armor decay over fapper services
same way that Caly is preferred over planet partners

Well, I do healer jobs for players who go full armored and still need a HEALER

Examples:

Mulci, THE, Warlocks, Eomon Stalkers, whatever ELITE/EXTERMINATOR

And yes they have damn good armors, even some well known high end hunters occationally hire FAPers for exactly that hunts.

I have even have jobs where the hunter in FULL ARMOR hired 2x IMP Fap.

Thats a very weak argument!

Not every high end hunter can have a PoE equivalent armor, there simply isn´t enough of it ingame!

There is a reason why we FAPers get hired!
 
Many also are shocked to see the drag health-bar gone - while MA clearly stated this was an unintended feature, yet people seem to have missed it.


Could you link where they stated that dragging health bar was an unintended feature??

Please, go on, do it for me.
 
Could you link where they stated that dragging health bar was an unintended feature??

Please, go on, do it for me.

I changed it, I remembered it false. My bad.
My point still stands, it was informed early on.

From Henrik, MindArk post;

02-02-2019.

* Removed the ability to drag out status bars. This feature caused many unintended issues and problems, and is no longer needed.
 
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I changed it, I remembered it false. My bad.
My point still stands, it was informed early on.

From Henrik, MindArk post;

02-02-2019.

* Removed the ability to drag out status bars. This feature caused many unintended issues and problems, and is no longer needed.

No problem on the mistake :)
But your point is still not a valid one.


Regarding Henrik's post, further down that thread...
To which I directly quoted Henrik, and asked what these unintended issues and problems were.
I never did get an answer to that.
 
I changed it, I remembered it false. My bad.
My point still stands, it was informed early on.

From Henrik, MindArk post;

02-02-2019.

* Removed the ability to drag out status bars. This feature caused many unintended issues and problems, and is no longer needed.

Like looking ahead in a field of young to dom troxes, and pulling the bars of the high maturites you wanted to go after.

Like pulling bars off tamable devils spawned in a bushes so you cant see them, unless you pull a bar off them.

Like pulling bars off mobs both behind you and in front of you, to plan what mobs you want to take on next.

Like pulling a bars off loads of agressive mobs that attack all at once, so you can click the next bar with ease to clear a bunch of mobs attacking you in close combat.

Like if hunting in space in an L quad, you can fly towards the dead cosmic, and click a bar to loot it (if you quad didn'y fly over it properly.

Henrik is non-player arse then isn't he.

Or is it to do with MA loot algorithm that is forcing us to hunt mobs or various matures in the correct 'order' that would best appeal to their loot algorithm.

Rick
 
I love how there are 5 pages of pro and con responses of people riled up from the post of a self proclaimed troll.

Well done!!!!

:lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:
 
No problem on the mistake :)
But your point is still not a valid one.


Regarding Henrik's post, further down that thread...
To which I directly quoted Henrik, and asked what these unintended issues and problems were.
I never did get an answer to that.

How is it not valid?
People who was active in that thread were amazed that this feature was now gone.
And my point was, they missed it.
 
How is it not valid?
People who was active in that thread were amazed that this feature was now gone.
And my point was, they missed it.

Read Ricks post for a few examples

I'm not amazed it's gone, I'm not amazed they said it's going, I'm amazed they actually removed this feature, without explaining why it was so problematic to them, after tons of posts saying 'This is how we hunt, fap, tame, craft, storage, tt terminal, trade, loot, move to targets' etc etc etc.

And they could not care less, that is what amazes me.

I used the drag health / status bar all the time, to try without it, is simply not fun.


Tell you what, just go hunt on a high agro mob, like merps at orthos, if your high skilled, don't wear armour, and use a relatively low gun as to not overkill every single mob (act like you have newbie skills) and see how you do. Then tell me if that's an enjoyable experience now.

Better yet, Argonauts at twins.
 
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Read Ricks post for a few examples

I'm not amazed it's gone, I'm not amazed they said it's going, I'm amazed they actually removed this feature, without explaining why it was so problematic to them, after tons of posts saying 'This is how we hunt, fap, tame, craft, storage, tt terminal, trade, loot, move to targets' etc etc etc.

And they could not care less, that is what amazes me.

Yeah, and my point was never about the sheer amounts of USAGE of that feature.
I loved the drag out feature too.

But my point was never about that.
 
It's okay, seems most features I used like Auto-use and Select-next are still possible, they just needed to be reconfigured with the keyboard map. I was worried at first, but then realized it was okay.
 
I love how there are 5 pages of pro and con responses of people riled up from the post of a self proclaimed troll.

Well done!!!!

:lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:

Therefore, it means that there is no agreement that this change is good. If it were, it would be immediately visible to all - not only for Trolls - (Nothing has to do with socialism or communism here. Truly good things are usually appreciated by everyone. Questionable things always create controversy.)

:cool:
 
Don't misunderstand, I think they should have left fappers in work.
Was just trying to see behind taking it away - announcing armor decay is mostly compensated and then this seems a big coincidence.
Well, I do healer jobs for players who go full armored and still need a HEALER
Examples:
Mulci, THE, Warlocks, Eomon Stalkers, whatever ELITE/EXTERMINATOR
And yes they have damn good armors, even some well known high end hunters occationally hire FAPers for exactly that hunts.
I have even have jobs where the hunter in FULL ARMOR hired 2x IMP Fap.
Thats a very weak argument!
Not every high end hunter can have a PoE equivalent armor, there simply isn´t enough of it ingame!
There is a reason why we FAPers get hired!
 
Is the "keyboard map" action gone too? I can't seem to find it in the action library anymore, had to redo a lot of shortcuts, annoying that i can't find the "keyboard map" anymore. Have to open up the "Edit Panel" and click the icon with my mouse to get the keyboard panel up (also can't drag that icon to any key).
 
Is the "keyboard map" action gone too? I can't seem to find it in the action library anymore, had to redo a lot of shortcuts, annoying that i can't find the "keyboard map" anymore. Have to open up the "Edit Panel" and click the icon with my mouse to get the keyboard panel up (also can't drag that icon to any key).

ya pretty dumb that they put it somewhere else. there's no pick up vehicle. to take off your VTOL you must jump but wtf do you do to turn on the headlights?
 
Is the "keyboard map" action gone too? I can't seem to find it in the action library anymore, had to redo a lot of shortcuts, annoying that i can't find the "keyboard map" anymore. Have to open up the "Edit Panel" and click the icon with my mouse to get the keyboard panel up (also can't drag that icon to any key).

its gone but go on active set * and move the keyboard shorcut there on what shortcut but is has to be empty to work then you will have it set on active sets 1-9
 
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Is the "keyboard map" action gone too? I can't seem to find it in the action library anymore, had to redo a lot of shortcuts, annoying that i can't find the "keyboard map" anymore. Have to open up the "Edit Panel" and click the icon with my mouse to get the keyboard panel up (also can't drag that icon to any key).

Keyboard map is not gone, it's on F10.
Also, READ THE NOTES! :)
 
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