Why do you answer this ?
You didn't see it was not intended for you ?
You must have had a hell of a desire to contradict me.
I'm tired of the game lately, and so even more tired of these useless fight on forum.
I talk about facts.
But you (and some other, like the one before) don't want to discuss facts, you just want to have last word.
And I will not explain what is Sophism in each thread of this forum..
Absolutely it should be exactly that way, PKers should shoot PKers.
For me thats the only thing that makes sense
What is a PK exactly ?
I don't know any, I know only EU players.
If you are mining in PvP4, and meet someone there, you kill him to save your loot, then you become a PK at that time.
I sometimes go there, just to see if there is someone to kill, but it's extremely rare, about 0.001% of my time ingame, rest of time I hunt/mine etc.. so am I a PK ?..
I am fairly sure I am a bigger noob than you (skills), but did my PKs, too.
I don't think so.
I'm only L66 hit, not so much HP, I don't have good gear, I don't have PvP armor, etc...
I'm not safe in PvP4 ! I've been killed as much as I killed.
Just to tell I'm not here to defend MY interest only.. (unlike many others..)
I am not scared, if I want to do it I will do it, it just has not high priority as I am still at other irons doable outside PvP.
Again sorry but the message was not intended for you..
Thats a plain lie, last time I was there, I was by far the lowest level and I passed that LVL30 long long time ago LOL
Beside that I have seen a lot high level players there mining for Pyrite, too.
OK so now I'm a liar..
I guess you've not been there for long time.
I go at Rig pretty often and I never met you there.
I know almost every people that are often at rig.
And yes, most are low level.
And yes, people don't shoot most time there.
Mostly because it's bad designed, and so it cost alot more to close the Rig than oil drops.
It's just a bit better now whith new feature about vehicles, but revival is too close.
I had many discution there whith people of my level or more, and most said something like "hey who cares, just leech !"
So I tell every noob: Go there ! It's totally safe, and you'll get free oil.
If you get killed, just come back again and again, people will stop wasting PED anyway.
If you think its wrong that a fairly new miner can get Pyrite at Rig zone, it should be no problem for you to shoot them down and keep the area for people of your level, up to you to close the rig.
Personally I cant care less.
I do it, when I do mining there, I shoot every people in my range.
But you know I loose PED doing this, for the reason mentioned above.
Personally I cant care less.
Why so much works then if you don't care ?
That's what I don't get..
And he was so right telling this:
We got a thread full of people who know how to PvP and want it fair. Then we got a whole bunch of people I've never seen in game and only ever see posting here, complaining about how exploits they've probably never even/never will come in contact with are totally fine and at the same time suggesting mechanics changes they will never experience or will even be relevant to them.
I have to disagree here, its not the incentive to skill missing when we talk about lootable PvP, its the incentive to go there that is missing.
Last few times I have been in lootable was for daily missions and the area is deserted.
There is no incentive for me to go there, except that daily mission.
There is nothing of higher value in loots or grounds, that I cant get at zero risk outside PvP, so why I should stay longer in lootable than just for this daily (less than 30 min!)
You want to disagree here, but you just confirm what I said.
Maybe it was not clear, sorry I learned English on my own.
As you say, you need good gear and good skills to win PvP fight.
So PvP would be an incentive to skill-up and invest if it would worth it.
If Pyrite would still be in lootable, many more MU and rare drop in PvP, if Rig would drop 10PED barrel, for example.
Isn't it the point of a MMO to compet whith other players ?
People don't understand that it's in their best interest to play Versus other players.
They don't get it, and so they continue playing against MA, I wish them good luck whith that, but they'll loose at the end.