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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn0wst0rm View Post
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    lets not update the serious old game engine to the latest edition because the old age pensioner playing the game has an old potato and doesn't want to spend $400 dollars on a new pc even though they probably spends $1k's a year paying to play the game!

    You wont boost a fricken games player base using decade old game engines. You must keep with the times!

    I would probably return as a regular player if the engine and graphics were not so outdated.

    This kind of thinking is short sighted, self-absorbed, and ignorant that also shows lack of knowledge of the real world and how things work. You are bashing the very people that have kept EU going for over 16 years and have the balls to call us "old-timers" and Pensioners" yet show no inkling of knowledge of how great the game was that drew us all in in the first place. I, for one, build my own computers and I would be considered a "pensioner" . I have achieved many goals in EU. The concept (RCE), is enough to keep most young "tech crazed" players away because it would require real work at making the game successful for them. EU isnt a quick fix for adrenaline junkies, but more like the stock market. It takes thought, experience, ingenuity, social skills (that you cant learn from FB or instagram) , and patience to make your game play successful. Its an adult game, not for thirteen year olds.

    What will boost this game is quality of substance, equity in loot disbursements equivalent to the amount of time and cash you use, and a player base that isnt looking for Mcdonalds but rather a 4 star restaurant. I, and millions of others, currently play Forge of Empire , and , compared to EU, the graphics suck but it has a tremendous player base. Advanced tech doesnt necessarily equate with great gaming experience, unless all you are looking for is the next thrill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by messi91 View Post
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    Wood pc much?Did you found your pc while taking your trash out?
    I have a 8 year old pc I never changed anything and works with highest graphic options as a charm.
    tip you could actually find a better computer in the garbage

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    When I read this in the interview, I was quite dubious about the repeated choice of Cryengine for the future update :

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    It seems like growing technology is the biggest threat to older MMOs.
    Have you had any major technical hurdles to cross with Entropia now being old enough ?


    Henrik: In 2009 we made the change from Gamebryo game engine to Cryengine 2. With that change, we had to re-develop a lot of our systems to adapt with the new game engine.
    As many of the developers are still around from that time, we still possess the knowledge from that transition which will make another upgrade much smoother.
    We do actually have a graphical improvement just around the corner which utilizes Cryengine , but unfortunately I can’t go into detail about it just yet.
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    BUT as lately new interesting developments came from Cryengine developers (the fastest ray-tracing in the world is being introduced), I had to change my previous idea :




    https://www.cryengine.com/news/cryte...for-cryengine#


    This superfast revolutionary ray-tracing simply means that Crytek -at least in 2019- knows how to exploit very well a computer hardware, surely much better than many competitors, so I am optimistic about the minimum hardware requirements of the new engine.
    Also, MindArk people know very well the problems caused by the old engine transition in 2008, and the big loss of players due to excessively high minimum hardware requirements, so I would not be surprised if the specific problem has been/will be widely discussed with Crytek, for the future Cryengine releases.


    Downside : the Cryengine is not free, unlike the Amazon's Lumberyard engine that I introduced in the Suggestion Forum and in my Blog, and asks a 5% royalty to its client-Companies, but if MindArk STILL has done this choice, imo it's a sign of financial solidity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WoenK View Post
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    hmmm...are you talking about Anthem ?
    I wasn't being specific to any game, I was talking very generally from my experience of other games. I can few give some example of poor graphical games, that people still enjoy highly, runescape and minecraft are a few, last night I played an 10 hour session Alpha Centauri with 3 other players over a network. None have good graphics, but can be played for hours easy without boredom. I could think of a lot lot more easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelldot View Post
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    Actually this would be one of the worse moves for Entropia, if you keep changing the game engine every few years to keep a few people happy, where is the time for updating the actual game play?

    Why push for a graphical update when many elements of the game play are still lacking, like an actual point to taming animals for example.

    There are many older less graphical games that are still played today based on their great game play alone. No one wants a pretty looking game with no content, or half completed content.
    It is not every few years though. This game update when Cryengine moved to a new version (2) over a decade ago no ? Since then the engine is the 5th and latest iteration and it isn't just "graphical". You get better coding that works much better on 64 bit computers, much better on quad core+ pc's and much better performance.

    As said, modernisation of gaming engines (and games that use them) is essential to drawing in the new players. This game hasn't really grown at all in all the years I have been around but one of the most important ways of doing that it to bring the system into 2019 rather than keeping it pre 2009.

    There are threads quoting how MA have the experience of transitions to newer game engines so it would be much more smoother in future and game engine creators have even made them easier with their newer versions.

    We must keep with the times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigPaul View Post
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    When I read this in the interview, I was quite dubious about the repeated choice of Cryengine for the future update :

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    It seems like growing technology is the biggest threat to older MMOs.
    Have you had any major technical hurdles to cross with Entropia now being old enough ?


    Henrik: In 2009 we made the change from Gamebryo game engine to Cryengine 2. With that change, we had to re-develop a lot of our systems to adapt with the new game engine.
    As many of the developers are still around from that time, we still possess the knowledge from that transition which will make another upgrade much smoother.
    We do actually have a graphical improvement just around the corner which utilizes Cryengine , but unfortunately I canít go into detail about it just yet.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    BUT as lately new interesting developments came from Cryengine developers (the fastest ray-tracing in the world is being introduced), I had to change my previous idea :




    https://www.cryengine.com/news/cryte...for-cryengine#


    This superfast revolutionary ray-tracing simply means that Crytek -at least in 2019- knows how to exploit very well a computer hardware, surely much better than many competitors, so I am optimistic about the minimum hardware requirements of the new engine.
    Also, MindArk people know very well the problems caused by the old engine transition in 2008, and the big loss of players due to excessively high minimum hardware requirements, so I would not be surprised if the specific problem has been/will be widely discussed with Crytek, for the future Cryengine releases.


    Downside : the Cryengine is not free, unlike the Amazon's Lumberyard engine that I introduced in the Suggestion Forum and in my Blog, and asks a 5% royalty to its client-Companies, but if MindArk STILL has done this choice, imo it's a sign of financial solidity.


    Paul

    A Vega 56 is not what I would call a "mainstream" graphicscard.
    AFAIK the Cryenigne was also free when MA obtained it.
    And from the licence I am a bit in doubt if a new Cryengine could even be obtained, because EU is borderline gambilng and you can can call it surely a serious game for the RCE.

    There where some similar caveeats to the Lumberyard engine and I think it was only Cryengine 3.x.

    Besides...with most people here problably having a Nvidia 1030 or an IGP, it is still out of the question.
    And even if thaey do a change, where the hell are they going to get the 20some developers to do it in time and even update the textures and reflections?
    Most of the developers sounds like much, but if I remember correctly there where 5 of them last time ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quell Que Star View Post
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    This kind of thinking is short sighted, self-absorbed, and ignorant that also shows lack of knowledge of the real world and how things work. You are bashing the very people that have kept EU going for over 16 years and have the balls to call us "old-timers" and Pensioners" yet show no inkling of knowledge of how great the game was that drew us all in in the first place. I, for one, build my own computers and I would be considered a "pensioner" . I have achieved many goals in EU. The concept (RCE), is enough to keep most young "tech crazed" players away because it would require real work at making the game successful for them. EU isnt a quick fix for adrenaline junkies, but more like the stock market. It takes thought, experience, ingenuity, social skills (that you cant learn from FB or instagram) , and patience to make your game play successful. Its an adult game, not for thirteen year olds.

    What will boost this game is quality of substance, equity in loot disbursements equivalent to the amount of time and cash you use, and a player base that isnt looking for Mcdonalds but rather a 4 star restaurant. I, and millions of others, currently play Forge of Empire , and , compared to EU, the graphics suck but it has a tremendous player base. Advanced tech doesnt necessarily equate with great gaming experience, unless all you are looking for is the next thrill.
    I have played Forge of Empires Even cheap games like that are running the latest 2019 version of iOS / Android platform. Like I said it isn't just a graphical thing.
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