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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukat123 View Post
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    and? If 100.000-300.000 new players join and everyone depos 200-400$ over the first 3 years, that's a plus of 20-120 million$ in MAs account ^^
    Since i play EU (13y) I get the feeling, that MA dont want more players. I tell you why.
    1. a lot more players would need a lot more employes
    2. It needs more and faster server and maybe bigger worlds (more dev work and server cost)
    3. If it get a mainstream game, a lot more countries maybe investigate the game about casino game.
    4. Ma have a working nice money factory, why risking big, if it run well that way and no need to hire a lot employes.
    5. They lost the love to make EU big.
    6. They just don't want to get big.

    There must be a reason, why they don't focus to get bigger, otherwise we would see more action.

    How ever, the main problem is fun. Is always loosing fun? The more fun we will have, the more it cost ped's to get that fun. A lot player play this game to get fun, and they stop play very fast, if there is no fun.

    It realy needs more gameplay fun, and also cheap things to get that fun. Kill 1 000 000 noob mobs is not much funny. Risk the underpants at big mobs is also not everyones task. But i stongly think, the main problem is the always get bad loot feeling. Why i should log in, if i got 10 runs with minus payback, doing a 11. run with same result? Again and again.... no wonder, that a lot stop to play. Noone like to be a always looser.

    It needs to have some hope to get a funny run! 10 x making minus about 60-70% payback per run don't increase the hoping, at least not if you get a looser feeling.

    Don't get me again wrong, this is not whining! This is the reason why a lot player stop to play EU, and why a lot newbies only play a few days, and then stop after first depo, if they only lost everything very fast.

    EU has lost a lot of cheap end free funny things over the years. Fashion is near death!. Rings are empty. No more nice and funny parties all over EU. No more TP runs, exploring new stuff with friends etc. I think all the old players know of what i be discussing.

    Free to play (EU is calling this game like this) means also to have some stuff to play for free. What can we do here for free?
    Sweating is one (much boring) search fruits and stones (much boring)
    walk around and exploring the world (first time it is fun, after some days it is boring too)
    Find friends and chat (less activity, since less ppl play and there are no parties where you can meet new friends)
    scam (some try that)
    streetselling (is died too, since MU of near everything is down)

    Now just a question. Would you play a such game, where the play to free fun is like this, and you be new to it?
    For more you need to pay more as for every other game.

    I strongly think we need more free or even cheap fun, to get more players, and hold older players in game activ.

    Ok, all that is just my opinion, and please don't call it again as whining. It is just what i think about all this.

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    Since i play EU (13y) I get the feeling, that MA dont want more players.
    I have the impression too.
    Maybe they do really have the attidute get as much cash as possible and once it's no longer generating profits they simply shut it down... which would be a shame, because this game has quite some potential...

    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
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    It needs to have some hope to get a funny run! 10 x making minus about 60-70% payback per run don't increase the hoping, at least not if you get a looser feeling.

    Don't get me again wrong, this is not whining! This is the reason why a lot player stop to play EU, and why a lot newbies only play a few days, and then stop after first depo, if they only lost everything very fast.
    yeah, and one day, there will be no new players feeding new peds into the economy, then the old players won't get profits anymore.. and guess what happens then, messi will be the first to withdraw all his money and abandon the sinking ship ^^

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    there ya go m8 mining is going good
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    78ish% TT-return...pretty sure i've cracked the 50 bad runs* in a row mark now... it seems to be better to just stay away from the game, there won't be anything good coming out of it anyway....

    *click-size per run 150-500 clicks, except on this simple 2 conductor one ofc.
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    i wont read the wall of text , i like it simple , how long were those runs ?
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    78ish% TT-return...pretty sure i've cracked the 50 bad runs* in a row mark now... it seems to be better to just stay away from the game, there won't be anything good coming out of it anyway....

    *click-size per run 150-500 clicks, except on this simple 2 conductor one ofc.
    I am a hunter main profession. I craft sometimes when MU would be better than the loot I currently have. I would never in my life, once, think of clicking under 1500 conductors/springs in a go. 89? are you kidding me?

    Want me to make a video of me shooting 89 tide claws and losing 1100 ped and whining?

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    I am a hunter main profession. I craft sometimes when MU would be better than the loot I currently have. I would never in my life, once, think of clicking under 1500 conductors/springs in a go. 89? are you kidding me?

    Want me to make a video of me shooting 89 tide claws and losing 1100 ped and whining?
    l2r, l2m.... 50 runs times 150-500 clicks each is how much?
    it doesn't matter if doing 89 click or 1000 click runs... the result is usually the same, 80ish% return...
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    l2r, l2m.... 50 runs times 150-500 clicks each is how much?
    it doesn't matter if doing 89 click or 1000 click runs... the result is usually the same, 80ish% return...
    You should do those runs then and post the results for our comparison, in fact, post anything useful ever

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    You should do those runs then and post the results for our comparison, in fact, post anything useful ever
    what for? MA can just check my log and see that the vast majority of runs is just terrible...
    a ratio good run:bad run of 1:1 would be somewhat okay, but something like 1:50 or even 1:80 is just terrible design...

    btw, i had 2 multis during that 89 click run, yet it wasn't even enough to get above 80% return... MA, please fix this shit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukat123 View Post
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    l2r, l2m.... 50 runs times 150-500 clicks each is how much?
    it doesn't matter if doing 89 click or 1000 click runs... the result is usually the same, 80ish% return...
    Larger sample sizes are better, your results should be closer to the mean.

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    A simple example of this is that if one flips a coin many times the probability of getting a given number of heads in a series of flips will approach a normal curve, with mean equal to half the total number of flips in each series. (In the limit of an infinite number of flips, it will equal a normal curve.)
    Flip a coin 20 times, you might get 8 heads 12 tails or 40% tails versus 60% heads.

    Flip the same coin a million times, you'll get closer to 50% heads/tails but still have variance, albeit lower than the previous example.
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