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    Quote Originally Posted by ProActive Mango View Post
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    and Mindark saying market manipulation is against the EULA...
    I think there are so many intelligent, savvy tech folks on here...They will figure out who the main ava this person is...I am sure at this point MA has his/her large transactions watched and ppl he is transacting with 'flagged."

    ( Ms Pudding's post is spot on....Should be a sticky. )



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    Does he use avatars of different names to sell stuff? Star Alex Gray sells stuff in Auctionhouse. So he uses different account for selling, therefore market manipulation.
    Last edited by Celia; 04-12-2019 at 06:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmurfud View Post
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    Hording resources when MU is low to sell them when it's high is not market manipulation...I can buy as much of a resource as I want and sell it when and for what mu I want.
    Market manipulation is when you use alt accounts or use one or a few friends to sell something(usually UL stuff which you only find a handful in-game like imk2,melee trauma amps,clds,auds and so on) between you to increase MU artificially.
    The problem is some resources drop very hard,like opals...so the problem from my point of view isn't Alex and others like him,who hord resources,but the balancing team which doesn't actually exists at MA and because of that you have this fucked up economy in which you have shit loads of resources with very low MU and very rare ones with insane MU....
    They should hire a freaking economist for a year to sort the economy and resource drops and balance all this shit out...I don't think they can't afford one in the team. He is much more cheaper then what they wasted on compet and deeptoken
    Exactly, there are business models which aren't illegal nor even in the slightest immoral -- the speculator plays an important role in any economy -- yet still is seen as toxic by many. So something about it goes against human nature and we simply don't like it. I agree that, for our game where everything is non-material and can be created simply by an act of will, resource balancing should take this into account and replenish items which are removed from circulation for a certain amount of time. This can be automated by tying in market fluctuations. (I once found evidence for a similar scheme with Ares Ring Improved, sure it's a different story with potential flooding of unlimited items if they were simply replaced. But for stackables it shouldn't be a problem.)

    What goes too far imo is the one who keeps posting auction orders for CLDs between 250-300 ped to entrap the hapless who would make a mistake and forget a zero upon listing theirs for sale. Why we can see the names of everyone listing a sale but not those listing an order is beyond me. This type of behaviour should be eradicated. I, too, am guilty of being lazy and not reporting it, but this changes now. Thanks for the motivation through this thread.

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    I'm going to jump in here and actually add fu3el to this one post by saying.. Don't stop the reports either.. after all it doesn't matter if a person is actually manipulating the market or exploiting a bug. if you think that they are doing something wrong, then go ahead and report them, and don't stop. just fill up the inbox until MA gets the hint.. After all the real question is this..

    Do the players want to get abused like this and do nothing and turn their heads and ignore the problem goes away, or will people stand up and do something ..

    This reminds me of the time I sent in 7 reports to MA over a 2 year period about a game play issue (It's an issue with the lack of placement of a turret at a certain location..

    It wasn't until I jumped in one day at the location (and got Killed instantly by a mob that had been dragged to that spot and people were grumbling about how their armors were being decaysed as they tried to escape out of the area.. I just stood there and listened to all of this then spoke my mind..

    "Did any of you send in at least 1 report case or 2, or 3, or 7? "

    Dead silence.. I said, Okay then when you finally report this then maybe you'll get results."

    Within a month a simple 5 minute fix and a lot of angry players reports flodded the boxes and within that time MA looked into the problem and did something.. they fixed the issue and people were happy..

    I thin this is a valuable lesson here. If you do nothing , nothing gets done.. the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the more gear grinding you put into these reports the more MA will listen..

    1 report isn't going to solve the problem.. or even 2.. we're talking hundreds..

    and how much time is that out of anybody's game play? 2 minutes? 3 tops to state a fact?

    the point and moral of this story is this: if anyone can't take 3 minutes out of their time to fill out a simple report be it a bug or a exploit, then they have no one to blame but themselves..

    that's all I have to say

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    Okay, now we went off on a tangent from this thread's actual topic, but since this wasn't quite clear from OP initially, it's all in context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celia View Post
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    Does he use avatars of different names to sell stuff? Star Alex Gray sells stuff in Auctionhouse. So he uses different account for selling, therefore market manipulation.
    nono he is using this avatar to place orders , you can't buy anything you want to craft because he is there non stop as long you don't offer 1-2% he will rise you 0,01 non stop
    .........

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    MA should really look into if this person is using some kind of auction bot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alina View Post
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    nono he is using this avatar to place orders , you can't buy anything you want to craft because he is there non stop as long you don't offer 1-2% he will rise you 0,01 non stop
    True, I had that before when I wanted to place an order to buy crafting mats... as soon as I did an offer higher than him, another offer was placed 0,01 higher only a few sec after.
    So I raised my offer again .... few sec later there was his offer again 0,01 higher ...

    How I know it was him? I sold him 1 resource :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeelooM View Post
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    True, I had that before when I wanted to place an order to buy crafting mats... as soon as I did an offer higher than him, another offer was placed 0,01 higher only a few sec after.
    So I raised my offer again .... few sec later there was his offer again 0,01 higher ...

    How I know it was him? I sold him 1 resource :p
    yap i tested him many times
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    Avatar that i lost peds was Alex Star Grey, now theres deeds in auction with seller Star Alex Grey.
    That is what i meant.

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    That sucks! They should really fix the deed stuff.

    In terms of the other "reselling" regarding materials we should be happy with people like him. Without them we would all undercut each other and markup would be extinct, even more than it is now.

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    He is NOT doing anything against the auction rules otherwise he would be banned a long time ago. What is kinda fishy is reaction time to new orders and online time spend during the day. Yes, you can be online for the entire day but you are still human only, you can't do this for months in a row. As players, we can't determine if he is using some kind of software to operate auction or not. This should be verified by MA and I also think that this avatar is a great candidate for it.

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