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    Quote Originally Posted by Evey View Post
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    I am sorry, information is free and plenty. MA should not compensate for laziness too
    I get it, you don't want to make extra efforts to do what you like, ok but then that's why there are competitions, because people are willing to push beyond that point, where you wanna chill after work on a big mob, high risk, high stakes.... This entire game is a competition so if you want to get good at it you have to know your stuff.
    Its not really laziness, but it more time consuming. Seaching forums, wiki and then shops or AH. I have worked hard over the years learning where to mine, what tool is best, what amp is best, time between spawns etc. My main proffession is miner, so i dont need guns, armour, fabs etc, but if i want to enter a mining event i have to buy all that stuff and spend hours hunting or pay mu on RDI.

    I dont know where you got i want to chill after work on a big mob? I want to mine, not hunt after work. Its like if i want to enter a running race, but it has to be triathlon. Even though i cant ride a bike or swim very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy trim View Post
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    Its not really laziness, but it more time consuming. Seaching forums, wiki and then shops or AH. I have worked hard over the years learning where to mine, what tool is best, what amp is best, time between spawns etc. My main proffession is miner, so i dont need guns, armour, fabs etc, but if i want to enter a mining event i have to buy all that stuff and spend hours hunting or pay mu on RDI.

    I don't know where you got i want to chill after work on a big mob? I want to mine, not hunt after work. Its like if i want to enter a running race, but it has to be triathlon. Even though i cant ride a bike or swim very well.
    It is a matter of perspective and you are still missing the basics. It's a RCE and you have to work with the community anyway, for amps, finders etc. Last event all you had to do was to do what you love most + spend 37 and sell for 57 - 100% success rate, no exception. You would have made 20 ped per box. Almost the same as the mining box. EXCEPT the mining box is (was for me at least) a lot rarer.

    If I would have applied your logic on my profession during FEN (or any major event where there is markup) I wouldn't have used enhancers or limited amps nor pills, because I don't want to pay markup - I would have turned half of what I did leaving me behind a lot.

    Your fear of paying markup is not justified. You don't pay markup to make tt shit but you do pay markup to get more markup. And you should go for markup, not stay after tt, and be upset at MA for removing your chosen title...

    Hard work, taking some risks, investing time and money in your character should reward you, not a raffle. Ok, I can understand you have no interest in hunting, I get that, but some of the materials that make mining amp come from hunting too and you pay for that markup, why does it suck in this case? Especially when the reward is much higher than usual? How is it different than what you do? You mine stuff not for collecting the stones for you but to sell it to other professions, with markup. You knowledge would have given you a much higher advantage than the newbie miners, like myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evey View Post
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    It is a matter of perspective and you are still missing the basics. It's a RCE and you have to work with the community anyway, for amps, finders etc. Last event all you had to do was to do what you love most + spend 37 and sell for 57 - 100% success rate, no exception. You would have made 20 ped per box. Almost the same as the mining box. EXCEPT the mining box is (was for me at least) a lot rarer.

    If I would have applied your logic on my profession during FEN (or any major event where there is markup) I wouldn't have used enhancers or limited amps nor pills, because I don't want to pay markup - I would have turned half of what I did leaving me behind a lot.

    Your fear of paying markup is not justified. You don't pay markup to make tt shit but you do pay markup to get more markup. And you should go for markup, not stay after tt, and be upset at MA for removing your chosen title...

    Hard work, taking some risks, investing time and money in your character should reward you, not a raffle. Ok, I can understand you have no interest in hunting, I get that, but some of the materials that make mining amp come from hunting too and you pay for that markup, why does it suck in this case? Especially when the reward is much higher than usual? How is it different than what you do? You mine stuff not for collecting the stones for you but to sell it to other professions, with markup. You knowledge would have given you a much higher advantage than the newbie miners, like myself...
    I am sorry but i think you have gone completey of track and have lost me. I was discussing with Trance how we could make a mining event similier to the mayhem event. Yes they tweaked the event so some miners had some way interact, but its not the same. Would it really be that bad if they they did a similer event for miners? A instance where you could just mine, depending on mining profession what cat you go in, tool depth limited to cat etc. I do pay mu on tools, amps etc. There is no mining event this mayhem anyway and we dont seem to be getting anywhere with this disscussion. So yes i could of done that or that, but nothing i can do it about it this time. If they go down that road again i will be rethinking how the best way to go about it next time.

    Just for record i am ok mining on RT, but once i leave that planet i am completely lost. You proberly have lot more knowladge of mining on Caly than me. I am really just a noob miner on a dead planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trance View Post
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    Yes, agree that this is not easy. But maybe it needs a bit more fantasy, what event are possible, and also about reward and prizes.

    Just an idea:
    It could be a special ore to find, only available at mining events. Also connected to some craft event, where this ore get used. This would not affect other things or MU of other stuffs. Also mining tokens would be an idea, to get some thing.

    How i told, it maybe just need some fantasy to get ideas
    I really think the fix with mining is to start putting shrapnel loot also in mining. This would fix everything that is wrong with the market. We used to get peds in loot then they replaced it with with oils then markup tanked, shrapnel hasn't been a perfect fix but it has been better then all oils. The same bed to be done to mining and crafting, so that people can build there skills up without flooding the market or being forced to loose so as not to flood the market.

    Then you can bring back mining events. Which I think should be a cycle between beacon / dungeon drops. Like to go with mayhem there would be a mulum dungeon key for miners to discover.
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    I am sorry but i think you have gone completey of track and have lost me. I was discussing with Trance how we could make a mining event similier to the mayhem event. Yes they tweaked the event so some miners had some way interact, but its not the same. Would it really be that bad if they they did a similer event for miners? A instance where you could just mine, depending on mining profession what cat you go in, tool depth limited to cat etc. I do pay mu on tools, amps etc. There is no mining event this mayhem anyway and we dont seem to be getting anywhere with this disscussion. So yes i could of done that or that, but nothing i can do it about it this time. If they go down that road again i will be rethinking how the best way to go about it next time.

    Just for record i am ok mining on RT, but once i leave that planet i am completely lost. You proberly have lot more knowladge of mining on Caly than me. I am really just a noob miner on a dead planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupaPres View Post
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    Can confirm MA hates small people!

    Depo'd $1000 this month and I have 100ped left

    But according to most with that back roll I should hunt Kerbs or Punnies!
    Nope Kerbs is to big mob for that small bankroll, max Daiki youngs, not more.
    To go for Kerbs you should have at least 20k PED

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexDameon View Post
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    I really think the fix with mining is to start putting shrapnel loot also in mining. This would fix everything that is wrong with the market. We used to get peds in loot then they replaced it with with oils then markup tanked, shrapnel hasn't been a perfect fix but it has been better then all oils. The same bed to be done to mining and crafting, so that people can build there skills up without flooding the market or being forced to loose so as not to flood the market.

    Then you can bring back mining events. Which I think should be a cycle between beacon / dungeon drops. Like to go with mayhem there would be a mulum dungeon key for miners to discover.
    I don't think it is a good idea. A lot of the ores i need to tt, i go crafting with it. If this where shrabnels, then less crafting hapen. The better idea would be to add ores and enm. to the proces of crafting ammo. Since we have projectile crafting, the ores have most no MU. It looked way other, before the casino slotmachine crafting.

    I also dont like to conect mining events with hunting. It have enough hunt events, and none of those have mining elements integrated

    So for miners, there is realy not much. Last event was a good idea, but why also hunting. Miners hate hunting, and they dont want buy stuff from hunters. A mining event should be mining only, without need to hunt. There are enough places, where miners need to hunt, to get to the claims. And always there are less places without any creatures. The funny thing, most of the mob free places are death mining places, about HR is a pain there.

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    Where can I find more info on the rules? For example whats an HP(soft cap)? Or what is base dps? Im confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thark View Post
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    Where can I find more info on the rules? For example whats an HP(soft cap)? Or what is base dps? Im confused.

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    Soft cap will adjust your HP down if u have more but conform to other requirments

    dps is the biggest weapon you are allowed to use. View info on a weapon and it will show you the damage/second, this is the base dps and you can add whatever amps etc u want to the weapon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GoNi View Post
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    Nope Kerbs is to big mob for that small bankroll, max Daiki youngs, not more.
    To go for Kerbs you should have at least 20k PED
    20k PEDs? Lol best u can do is 10-20HPs mobs

    U need to sell your house (or open a restaurant near MA's office) for kerbs

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