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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloisius View Post
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    or think of something to compensate.

    this game is a lot about avatar status and reputation. often bragging points are discussed on soc chat(oh fuk fix the soc chat puh-leeese). so it would be nice to have something to hang with your trophy heads and certificates of acheivements. not like consolation (because, uh well, nm), but like proof that we did something that no longer exists. (side note: i hate trophys and apartment stuff because - real estate has no intrinsic value with not much use past storing trophies.)

    my soc chat channel also revealed to me the fact that we'll be running both old and new missions which would be equal to double rewards for some that finish. all in all i think it's better than it sounds. when i looked over my missions they are not like 100% losses. some are sacrificeable and some are important to finish.

    lots of ubers dont even bother with missions, so, theres that. the new system sounds intriguing, as well, possibly making team hunting way better. overall, i think it's gonna be a positive, if not great, change.


    Yes..would also love something as "writing over to the new system"...even its its like -->you had 50% on old systems stage-->new system has this stage divided in halfs ( bec ludvid said..there will be more stages/parts withing a chain)-->so then you get like 70 % on new system --> its still a bit of % lesser for the player but it is something to work on and noone has then any fear to "migrate"

    or create an npc with token or something who cuts off your % of stage-> and you hand in some token or % within the new stage...
    or the npc has a list to convert 20%,40%,60%,80% where the player can choose the conversation rate (many possibilites would be there in theory)
    Then also the ppl could then convert their own missions manually within the time period given and start to work on within the new system....way lesser stressier :-))


    --> Alosious you said soc chat revealed double rewards....for my understanding you get only the credit within both systems but only 1x time the reward (double credit becuase then the new systems stage can advance and suit your old systems progress)

    And yes as also said in my former posts...this change takes the game to the 21st century..with many new options (new bestiary /mob info display,new scanning thingies +infos,teams for high end mobs..etc etc)

    i dunno if i will make with my like 15 open thingies in the 5k/10k area within the time period given(thx tho for extending to 1 yr instead of 1 month), i also am willing to safcrifice some missions there (not counting for other planets)...but there has to be something.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewebbie View Post
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    If you won't do that how about some compensation for all the points on all the missions we are going to be loosing?
    THIS. the only way to be fair to your customers! Yes, MA we are your customers, and get handled like a pain. You know we are the ppl, pay your company ond jobs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
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    My understanding is that contribution in the new system is based on decay of weapons and tools used to kill the mob at that time.
    This is why they cant simply transfer progress.
    How can they represent the contribution from decay for a mob that was killed years ago?
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    Interesting.
    This would imply that, in the new system, you would need to kill more mobs if you hunt with a high eco/eff weapon than with a low eco weapon.

    So, with a low eco rifle you would progress faster?

    Price drop on uber eco weapons?

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    It will be at least one year which means it will include next years migration.
    Thanks from me too for the quick reply.
    The other points made are a bit more complex, but I understand if you don't yet know the answers yourselves.

    Like Granny, I am more relaxed about not being pushed around and robbed if the timeframe is more than one year from now. I would, however, hope for progress on more of the things we have been waiting for, rather than on new systems such as this one. Still, maybe you wish to add taming missions or harvesting missions or whatever, but don't want to let the secret out yet.

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    Angry Compensate us!

    I don't expect anymore statements from MA. Each time the foot goes further into mouth.

    Personally I am not comfortable logging in and playing anymore. I have been told that all the years of effort and the $$$$$ Thousands of DOLLARS (not ped, real USD) is going to be wiped out. The claim is a real world economy. If this is the case not transferring progress to the new missions is just the same as if my employer said.

    "We are changing to a new retirement program. The two programs are not compatible so you will loose all your contributions made to date and start over with a $0 balance."

    That what this looks like to me. We are being robbed of our investments into the "real world economy".

    For me mission progress is my account statement. Zero out my missions you zero out my money.

    These are options I will accept for me to even consider logging in again.

    1. Transfer progress in real data or a % of progress.
    2. Compensate me in PED, skills or quality UL equipment.
    3. Run both mission systems concurrently forever. I finished Kerbs. So give me the new kerb mission. Let me finish all others.

    This is unfortunate. I am very close to Master BLP. I was going to depo enough to buy a high quality UL gun as my personal reward. I am 5 levels away from Force Merge. Its taken more than a DECADE to get to this point!!!

    Migration is the ONE event every year that I enjoy the most. Where I make the most progress. I feel like I lost my best friend. This sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizz View Post
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    Interesting.
    This would imply that, in the new system, you would need to kill more mobs if you hunt with a high eco/eff weapon than with a low eco weapon.

    So, with a low eco rifle you would progress faster?

    Price drop on uber eco weapons?

    I still think killing a mob solo will award the same amount of kill points, in the new system, regardless of how eco you are.
    The difference would be when hunting in a group or shared mob. Your contribution reward will be based on decay rather than damage done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewebbie View Post
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    I don't expect anymore statements from MA. Each time the foot goes further into mouth.

    Personally I am not comfortable logging in and playing anymore. I have been told that all the years of effort and the $$$$$ Thousands of DOLLARS (not ped, real USD) is going to be wiped out. The claim is a real world economy. If this is the case not transferring progress to the new missions is just the same as if my employer said.

    "We are changing to a new retirement program. The two programs are not compatible so you will loose all your contributions made to date and start over with a $0 balance."

    That what this looks like to me. We are being robbed of our investments into the "real world economy".

    For me mission progress is my account statement. Zero out my missions you zero out my money.

    These are options I will accept for me to even consider logging in again.

    1. Transfer progress in real data or a % of progress.
    2. Compensate me in PED, skills or quality UL equipment.
    3. Run both mission systems concurrently forever. I finished Kerbs. So give me the new kerb mission. Let me finish all others.

    This is unfortunate. I am very close to Master BLP. I was going to depo enough to buy a high quality UL gun as my personal reward. I am 5 levels away from Force Merge. Its taken more than a DECADE to get to this point!!!

    Migration is the ONE event every year that I enjoy the most. Where I make the most progress. I feel like I lost my best friend. This sucks.
    This is exactly what i feel, if i think at this all. I be also a miner, and crafter and hunter too, I be a allround skiller. This means, some times i hunt, some times i mine and also craft my mining stuff. So, there is less time for me to mine and craft, if i will finish all my open missions. I also will loose the LT mission about i dont get much kills while the event is. That way i cant get enough points this year and also next year in event.

    It is also a pain to get forced to finish all missions, just so we dont loose it, and in same case we can't mine nor craft, about all the time would be used to finish open missions. This game is about hunt, mining and craft and some ppl doing all 3! So ppl like me, doing more as just hunt, will be not able to finish a lot of the missions.

    If i loose this mission , then i loose a lot of my time, effort and also peds, i invested to this missions.
    As a customer, i will feel like some one has stolen all this, and the painfull part, the thief would be the company, i support with my time, and real life money. This will break all my thrust i have to this company and also to the game. This would be the end of my avatar and life in EU. Maybe some will call this crying, but no it is just what will hapen here on my side. There are plenty of nice games out, i can play.

    I realy ask for a reward of the missions we will loose. Or enough time to finish all mission, where 1 year is not enought for some ppl.

    All other things of the new mission system are nice and welcome, but delete for what we worked and invested, is a no go for me!

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    I suggest they just let us take whatever time we need to finish the mission we currently have in progress, once you have finished that stage, thats it, you can no longer progress in that mission on the old system and must move to the new system. I'm sure there are ton's of people still on the first stage of kill 100 mobs, etc, so wont take long for majority of those missions to get completed. That way all the progress one has made in a specific mission is not lost and MA will slowly gain the resources back as stages are completed.

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    Boss: One year to complete existing missions.
    Intern: I still don't think that's enough time.
    Boss: Start off by telling them one month and then later we will tell them one year and they'll be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBpunisher View Post
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    Boss: One year to complete existing missions.
    Intern: I still don't think that's enough time.
    Boss: Start off by telling them one month and then later we will tell them one year and they'll be happy.
    this is called tactic!

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