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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotr View Post
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    They are far from decent. Decent would be if a grinder would think to use L over UL. Thats not the case. A true grinder using L instead of UL would bring up MU more than 50 of "lets shoot 1000 peds this week" guys. They are inferior in kind of all aspect to UL so if someone have the peds to grind, would be a fool atm to go L way. Even guns above level 100 has below 100 efficiency no buff and no superior dps to L70-80 UL stuffs.

    But hey, rather keep 10-30k on UL guns MU than make 50k more from loot MU in lets say a year....
    You are under the impression that MU is going to increase and stay at that increased level with introduction of new weapons? That is not the case, look at the ArMatrix trend for an example of how it would work.

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    still wait more finders ;0

    Useless miner who want new high end minning tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan View Post
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    You are under the impression that MU is going to increase and stay at that increased level with introduction of new weapons? That is not the case, look at the ArMatrix trend for an example of how it would work.
    Because as I mentioned earlier arma series is not an alternative for grinders. Atm i dont hunt at all, cause i dont wanna invest in UL and high lvl L stuffs are not an option (dps dpp or effi wise). From arma series mostly low-mid level guns sells, high level sales are very low

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    definitely No. that is devaluation and means stealing in the economies of the countries. because the money would come out of the hands of the people and would be left directly in the hands of MA. In fact, actions like the ones you propose use MA when it needs money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier_Jr View Post
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    definitely No. that is devaluation and means stealing in the economies of the countries. because the money would come out of the hands of the people and would be left directly in the hands of MA. In fact, actions like the ones you propose use MA when it needs money.
    Thx for negrep with silly reason. Losing 100k on an item MU means 0 ped extra for MA, selling an item for 100k or 10k makes no difference (from MA's view), one player pays it, other gets it.

    Yes bad idea in RCE to increase the Economy part or interaction between players =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotr View Post
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    Thx for negrep with silly reason. Losing 100k on an item MU means 0 ped extra for MA, selling an item for 100k or 10k makes no difference (from MA's view), one player pays it, other gets it.

    Yes bad idea in RCE to increase the Economy part or interaction between players =)
    Yeah it makes sense if we are talking about game theories in a brand new game.Since we are talking about a sustained and long history of 16 years you can't just make drastic changes just because its more profitable as a company.
    There are a lot more to the equation than just profitability.Not everything has to do with if X is more profitable than Y lets pick X no matter what.

    I do agree that there has to exist top of the line tools ingame that are extremely hard to craft/find materials (pvp4 related or similar areas) but I don't agree with superior L tools better than any UL at least not for Entropia Universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotr View Post
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    They are far from decent. Decent would be if a grinder would think to use L over UL.
    You seem to be mistaken on how L items are supposed to work. If you use an L item so much that the added MU is a significant cost for you over the often improved stats of using L, you're supposed to look into UL weapons as an investment over that, not the other way around.

    Not to mention that the Armatrix series already fits the bill you've described since they were added. They sell pretty well too with that in mind considering all the shops out there selling them. There's a reason why they've risen in popularity.

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    I own one of the most expensive UL guns and im for powercreeping L weapons to create a market.

    Stop any new UL item drops.
    Instead drop L versions that have boosted stats, traits. Not just varying tier rates but varying from a base version of the weapon to a extremely well rolled item.

    Give looted L guns a high chance to roll then crafted. Maybe have hidden effects that u dont get to see untill tier up off such said L item.

    can play around with decay values, preservering, and manageing flow of items for competitions.
    It be good all around imo.
    But not realistic i fear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piotr View Post
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    Losing 100k on an item MU means 0 ped extra for MA, .
    That is not true. When an object is devalued, it means that the money that entered sometime into game simply will not abandon it.

    For example, a player buys a gun for 12 thousand dollars and, as far as he knows, has a value for 12 thousand dollars, but if what you suggest would be done and tomorrow its object is no longer worth 12 thousand dollars but only one thousand. The player lost his money and can never take out the 11 thousand dollars he thought he had.

    This could happens because when money is in the form of objects it is like saving, but when money is being played it will most likely disappear.


    (And your thread is silly ) - Finally you should thank your friend Kalixt for compensating your negative reputation, even without understanding what is being said here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messi91 View Post
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    Since we are talking about a sustained and long history of 16 years you can't just make drastic changes just because its more profitable as a company.

    .. but I don't agree with superior L tools better than any UL at least not for Entropia Universe.

    This is accurate.

    For that reason I understand that suggestion of the OP is bad because it is potentially dangerous for the players. (And then it would bring problems to the game itself)

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