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    Are Skills Valuable?

    I have always assumed they were. However I have noticed some threads that seem to consider they are not, in fact only useful for chipping out & selling.

    Is this the case?

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    When Mindark decides to finally put ESIs in the trade terminal so that folks can chip in and chip out without spending a fortune, yes, they will be worth something.

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    Why they should do so? The less chip out, the better vor MA. Also good to loot a ESI, about the MU. There are not many items left, with nice MU.
    Simple answer is that as it is now, many are long timers that don't actually participate... they are only around because chipping out would cost them too much... if it was easy to chip out negativity in community might go away if all the old time non-players weren't around any more. (Honestly I think with some recent changes Mindark is subtly trying to remove these non-participating folks in a more silent way, but that's just my humble opinion and the opinion of a few folks over on entropiaplanets forum)

    As for the loot answer that everyone always talks about - put better alternatives in loot instead of ESI to replace it. There ARE better ways of doing this. A few upgrade paths to a few items exist currently. Imagine if instead of ESI you could loot 'upgrade tokens' or whatever you want to call them that would allow you to upgrade ANY item in game with new better buffs, sometimes temporary, sometimes permanent, etc. If Mindark chose this path they'd simply need to just read the wishlist here on the forum since tons of ideas about upgrade paths are already out there that the community has put forth.

    Lots of other alternative to ESI loot could be introduced... Deep Space Instance Tokens, Better & Buffier Items, Tokens to get access to two new npc vendors - one that holds all of the assets Mindark has repossessed from dead accounts or banned avatar accounts, and another that holds all assets for all unreleased apartments, LAs, etc. for each planet's estate broker, etc. (make it a reverse auction npc type of thing for these new token types, etc.), Maybe a new vendor for shares of a new and upcoming planet... endless possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    When Mindark decides to finally put ESIs in the trade terminal so that folks can chip in and chip out without spending a fortune, yes, they will be worth something.
    Why they should do so? The less chip out, the better for MA. Also good to loot a ESI, about the MU. There are not many items left, with nice MU.
    Last edited by trance; 08-18-2019 at 09:25.

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    With the introdution of max profession standings for any kind of mindark hosted events some skills lost all their value and youre paying for the esi only. I wonder how many übers would quit entropia if esi chips really became tt food

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    Yes.

    But they only have value if you use them and only up to the point before they hinder you IE being to high a level for your preferred event category.

    Having the right skills will allow you to use better gear which has value in the form of playing efficiency. If you are talking about monetary sale value though, it really depends on what skills you are trying to sell. They skills everyone has the most of are less valuable and in some cases they are worth 1/10 their purchase cost in profit.

    That being said there are still some rarer skills that can get a good markup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    When Mindark decides to finally put ESIs in the trade terminal so that folks can chip in and chip out without spending a fortune, yes, they will be worth something.


    Simple answer is that as it is now, many are long timers that don't actually participate... they are only around because chipping out would cost them too much... if it was easy to chip out negativity in community might go away if all the old time non-players weren't around any more. (Honestly I think with some recent changes Mindark is subtly trying to remove these non-participating folks in a more silent way, but that's just my humble opinion and the opinion of a few folks over on entropiaplanets forum)

    As for the loot answer that everyone always talks about - put better alternatives in loot instead of ESI to replace it. There ARE better ways of doing this. A few upgrade paths to a few items exist currently. Imagine if instead of ESI you could loot 'upgrade tokens' or whatever you want to call them that would allow you to upgrade ANY item in game with new better buffs, sometimes temporary, sometimes permanent, etc. If Mindark chose this path they'd simply need to just read the wishlist here on the forum since tons of ideas about upgrade paths are already out there that the community has put forth.

    Lots of other alternative to ESI loot could be introduced... Deep Space Instance Tokens, Better & Buffier Items, Tokens to get access to two new npc vendors - one that holds all of the assets Mindark has repossessed from dead accounts or banned avatar accounts, and another that holds all assets for all unreleased apartments, LAs, etc. for each planet's estate broker, etc. (make it a reverse auction npc type of thing for these new token types, etc.), Maybe a new vendor for shares of a new and upcoming planet... endless possibilities.
    Thats a neat idea actually. Deep space instances you can drive into with ship and crew for something hardcore like beacons with reward at the end.
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    As the game is today i would say no because MA dont lake the old system in the game for MA only wants that we are doing Events and its easy to have 100 players shooting on a mob but before when it was no Events or missions and no L-Items then you need this skills to be in the game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    When Mindark decides to finally put ESIs in the trade terminal so that folks can chip in and chip out without spending a fortune, yes, they will be worth something.
    The moment ESI are for sale in the TT at TT value and unlimited amounts, the value of all but the most rare skills will go to zero. It takes only a few big avatars that sell out to flood the market. Lots of idle avatars with huge skillcounts are willing to chip out, blocked by ESI @ 900% and very little market volume.

    MA will always throttle the ESI availability and price very carefully. The fact that nearly every item has dropped in price the last 10 years except ESI is your proof.
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    From the replies to my enquiry it seems that the only benefit of skills is that they can be chipped out & sold.
    That they can actually hinder you if you like to take part in events and the skills you possess are too high for an event category.

    Surely there must be some benefit in obtaining them? Or is the only use for them is enabling you to obtain and progress in a profession?

    Otherwise what is the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranavolana View Post
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    From the replies to my enquiry it seems that the only benefit of skills is that they can be chipped out & sold.
    That they can actually hinder you if you like to take part in events and the skills you possess are too high for an event category.

    Surely there must be some benefit in obtaining them? Or is the only use for them is enabling you to obtain and progress in a profession?

    Otherwise what is the point
    well depends on what matters to you.. they may have little monetary value at the moment but they are great for actual playability... skills give hit points as well and evade/dodge obviously make things easier to survive. weapon skills of course allow you to use that higher lvl weapon you've always dreamed of. If someone is just concerned about peds then yes theyre not worth much =p
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