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    And here are the multipliers weighted/normalised by value (i.e. I have calculated all values to Set 1 values). These values say something about how much you need to cycle/how many mobs to kill on each stage.

    Technically, if you can figure out the exact amount of peds cycled/kills you need to cycle for Rank 1, you can use the multipliers below to know the exact amount to cycle/kill for each Rank 1-25

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    Rank 26: Not applicable. Fixed reward of 25 ped (Set 1) for all mobs it looks like.
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    Good job guys, that seems to have everything covered then. We can now calculate (approximate) values of all rewards from the first stage rewards.

    I'll keep collecting the confirmed specific values for the purposes of the Creatures threads too.

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    I've been collecting as many Stage 1 missions as I can, and have 110/130 so far. I haven't been to CP or Cyclops Depths yet, so I assume I could add Aurli, Kreltin, Marcimex, and Mind Reaver, as well as Eomon and Longtooth when they appear. I think there are 6 space mobs I'm missing. That would make 122/130. Do Calamusoids in the instance have one? Other possible event ones are Spider Bomber, Jamraider and RX units. Still a few missing there - perhaps Mayhem mobs will have separate missions. Anyone else found anything I'm missing?

    Here's my 110:

    Aetherex
    Allophyl
    Ambulimax
    Araneatrox
    Argonaut
    Armax
    Atrax
    Atrox
    Attacker
    Berycled
    Big Bulk
    Boorum
    Bristlehog
    Calypsocod
    Caperon
    Caudatergus
    Cersumon
    Chirpy
    Chomper
    Combibo
    Cornoanterion
    Cornundacauda
    Cornundos
    Daikiba
    Daspletor
    Defender
    Diripi
    Droka
    Drone
    Drone Coordinator
    Equus
    Estophyl
    Eviscerator
    Exarosaur
    Falxangius
    Faucervix
    Feffoid
    Feffox
    Formicacida
    Formidon
    Foul
    Frescoquda
    Fugabarba
    Fungoid
    Furor
    Gibnib
    Globster
    Gokibusagi
    Gradivore
    Harbinger
    Hiryuu
    Hispidus
    Hogglo
    Igni
    Itumatrox
    Kerberos
    Kingfisher
    Legionnaire
    Letomie
    Leviathan
    Longu
    Maffoid
    Malcruentor
    Mermoth
    Merp
    Miner Bot
    Molisk
    Morsusilex
    Mourner
    Mulaak'f
    Mulmun
    Muluk-Hir
    Neconu
    Neomex
    Nexnecis
    Oculus
    Osseocollum
    Phasm
    Plumatergus
    Prancer
    Proteron
    Pupugi
    Razortooth
    Repesilex
    Rextelum
    Rippersnapper
    Sabakuma
    Scaboreas
    Scipulor
    Second Entity
    Shinkiba
    Snablesnot
    Snarg
    Snarksnot
    Sonic Squid
    Steel Bird
    Sumima
    Tantardion
    Tantillion
    Tezlapod
    Thorifoid
    Traeskeron
    Trilomite
    Tripudion
    Trooper
    TskTsk
    Turp
    Vanguard
    Warlock
    Warrior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg View Post
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    Anyone else found anything I'm missing?
    Tamables (Corinthian Kanin, Chirin Dragon, Eudorian Devil)? Do they count as Molisk, or do not count at all?

    Do Grand Formidon count as Formidon now? (meh if so)
    Last edited by Haruto Rat; 09-30-2019 at 14:21.
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    (Rank 26: 2000, but this multiplier is uncertain for other than Sabakuma at this point)
    That means that the repeatable mission is over 2.4 times the size of ALL the previous 25 missions combined!
    So, if you are still on the lower levels of some more sizeable mob and finding it hard already, just imagine trying to go through the repeatable mission even once!!!

    Planning in about 1 year to finish to level 25? Then plan in 2.5 years for the repeatable?

    So the big question is, when is somebody going to finish one of the bigger missions and can tell us?
    If the multiplier is also at 2000 for all mobs, will MA maybe learn better balancing and change it so that people can repeat various mobs instead of having to stick to one mob for literally years?

    To me it looks more like reach level 25 = stop there and never kill another one of that mob again, cause you'll not have a life after that if you continue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montbertus View Post
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    Drone Rank 10

    It took 3.400 killpoints in the 'old' mission system to complete the stage. I did gen 5-7 so 10-11 points per mob. That was 0.2x% to 0.3x% on that progress bar. Just to give an idea.

    Drone Rank 11

    A11 = 3.37ped of set 1

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    It took about 3.800 killpoints in the 'old' mission system to complete Rank 11. Hope that helps.

    Now I finished stage 5 so unable to directely compare stages..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruto Rat View Post
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    Tamables (Corinthian Kanin, Chirin Dragon, Eudorian Devil)? Do they count as Molisk, or do not count at all?
    They don't have a separate mission. I hadn't considered the possibility that they might count towards Molisk.

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    Do Grand Formidon count as Formidon now? (meh if so)
    Again, they don't have a separate mission. I assume they count for Formidon but I didn't kill one to check, just scanned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg View Post
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    I've been collecting as many Stage 1 missions as I can, and have 110/130 so far. I haven't been to CP or Cyclops Depths yet, so I assume I could add Aurli, Kreltin, Marcimex, and Mind Reaver, as well as Eomon and Longtooth when they appear. I think there are 6 space mobs I'm missing. That would make 122/130. Do Calamusoids in the instance have one? Other possible event ones are Spider Bomber, Jamraider and RX units. Still a few missing there - perhaps Mayhem mobs will have separate missions. Anyone else found anything I'm missing?

    Here's my 110:

    Aetherex
    Allophyl
    Ambulimax
    Araneatrox
    Argonaut
    Armax
    Atrax
    Atrox
    Attacker
    Berycled
    Big Bulk
    Boorum
    Bristlehog
    Calypsocod
    Caperon
    Caudatergus
    Cersumon
    Chirpy
    Chomper
    Combibo
    Cornoanterion
    Cornundacauda
    Cornundos
    Daikiba
    Daspletor
    Defender
    Diripi
    Droka
    Drone
    Drone Coordinator
    Equus
    Estophyl
    Eviscerator
    Exarosaur
    Falxangius
    Faucervix
    Feffoid
    Feffox
    Formicacida
    Formidon
    Foul
    Frescoquda
    Fugabarba
    Fungoid
    Furor
    Gibnib
    Globster
    Gokibusagi
    Gradivore
    Harbinger
    Hiryuu
    Hispidus
    Hogglo
    Igni
    Itumatrox
    Kerberos
    Kingfisher
    Legionnaire
    Letomie
    Leviathan
    Longu
    Maffoid
    Malcruentor
    Mermoth
    Merp
    Miner Bot
    Molisk
    Morsusilex
    Mourner
    Mulaak'f
    Mulmun
    Muluk-Hir
    Neconu
    Neomex
    Nexnecis
    Oculus
    Osseocollum
    Phasm
    Plumatergus
    Prancer
    Proteron
    Pupugi
    Razortooth
    Repesilex
    Rextelum
    Rippersnapper
    Sabakuma
    Scaboreas
    Scipulor
    Second Entity
    Shinkiba
    Snablesnot
    Snarg
    Snarksnot
    Sonic Squid
    Steel Bird
    Sumima
    Tantardion
    Tantillion
    Tezlapod
    Thorifoid
    Traeskeron
    Trilomite
    Tripudion
    Trooper
    TskTsk
    Turp
    Vanguard
    Warlock
    Warrior
    I have 119 and thats with aurli, kreltin, marcimex, mind reaver, dymlek, cosmic horror, skyflail, dropship, and hermit
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    Quote Originally Posted by LavaSparks View Post
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    (Rank 26: 2000, but this multiplier is uncertain for other than Sabakuma at this point)
    Can confirm, soc mate told me shinkiba rank 26, = 0.05% per kill so 2000 kills of stalkers to complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oleg View Post
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    They don't have a separate mission. I hadn't considered the possibility that they might count towards Molisk.
    That's just my wild guess based on the fact Kanins drop Molisk loot 1:1. (I'm not sure about other two)

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    Again, they don't have a separate mission. I assume they count for Formidon but I didn't kill one to check, just scanned.
    Again a wild guess based on the fact they merged Longu and Primordial Longu - why not Formidon and Grand Formidon, then.

    (I'm on Toulan and cannot check anything right now)

    Next... I heard four Monria mobs got codex missions, too. (or five? more likely four but better ask on #monria)

    And then there are punies. Do they count towards their "adult" mobs now? what about mobs like Freshwater Calypsocod, Highland Longtooth and Swampland Allophyl (if those still exist, of course)?
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