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    I think its like a loyalty program . You get loyalty points for doing some activities and you get some loyalty points.
    The company is rewarding you to have some benefits for being a loyal customer and its up to them to allow or not allow the transfer of benefit.

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    if you don't like it as it is stop doing the dailies and move on to something else. We see you doing the puny bone missions on forum here a lot. Said it before will say it again, you might be making more doing the pleak mission on Cyrene than you are with the bone missions... and since you do like dailies I think Cyrene may be a better place for you to explore than Calypso... There's a lot of daily stuff there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeH View Post
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    I think its like a loyalty program . You get loyalty points for doing some activities and you get some loyalty points.
    The company is rewarding you to have some benefits for being a loyal customer and its up to them to allow or not allow the transfer of benefit.
    That's not a bad way of looking at it. Better that bitching about economy from non-players.
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    Looking at the tracker to determine whose opinion has weight and whose doesnt is very lame, especially in hunting. For example I have it hidden(due to 80% globs being in a team in the past) because of of people like Coz who think they know how things work but then we see this suggestion, which clearly indicates lack of understanding economy. Finally MA do something right with armatrix series, so lets be stupid and change it
    Ok let's see. I go to the doctor who has been in practice for 5 years but who has never had a patience, not sure that's the one I want to go to.

    Anyway I still have my opinion and you and others have a different one who cares. Neither will change.

    So you Chicken Little's can have it. I am done with this.

    BTW It was a simple question, Why. All that had to be said was "It would hunt the economy" not a dissertation in economics
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermesh View Post
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    if you don't like it as it is stop doing the dailies and move on to something else. We see you doing the puny bone missions on forum here a lot. Said it before will say it again, you might be making more doing the pleak mission on Cyrene than you are with the bone missions... and since you do like dailies I think Cyrene may be a better place for you to explore than Calypso... There's a lot of daily stuff there.
    Actually I did do them several times but that also dropped off and was just a slug fest and not much fun at all. You just stand in one place and hit the "F" key as fast as you can.
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    If tokens and weapons were possible to trade someone could ask 6-7 friends to do daily missions,
    in one month you could easily have + 6-7 weapons that fit some players quite well, start using
    those weapons and stop when they reach decent tier level and still have decent % left.
    In some months you will have a bunch of weapons that could be used in events without
    paying that much to reach it, which also have nice stats with help of enhancers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CozMoDan View Post
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    I have always been a hunter so I really don't know that much about the others. But I will say that doing the daily missions to get the guns is very costly. I would say that the some if not most of ArMs would be 100 tokens and would take about about 17 days just hunting, not sure how many you get from the other two missions. and like I said I would think it would still be much cheaper to just by them outright. It didn't look like much markup in either ArM of the treks. Daily missions are for the beginners IMO and doubt they would sell them because they would buy the weapons to keep themselves. Again IMO.

    However, my point is still it should be the players decision not MAs because we pay to play. Oh and before you mention the bonus mission at getting 10 tokens I have had two in about 6 weeks. MA has done and will do things that stifle economy from time to, which we have no say in, and no one says much that I have seen because there is nothing we can do and that is my biggest point.

    Last thing and then you can have it, I don't think you have hunted much ( I have been hunting about 12 years) and have not done many daily hunting missions or you would know What I am talking.

    But thanks for the rundown on the others but you really have not done much of the others either and don't take this wrong but I am not sure where you are getting you info about market depression as you have not been around to see it. Sorry don't take it personally.
    So what did you look at the tracker and determine my experience based on that? or did you just look at when i joined PCF and base it off that? You may have been hunting for years, but hunting puny's and pubs since 2017 and having a favourite mob of Kerbs does not instill confidence that you know hunting let alone this game at all.....Sorry don't take it personally.

    I am not saying the sky is falling...i have never said that in any of my posts on PCF, I am saying that it will affect all professions by having these tradeable. You have the short term vision of "this could be a good way for me to make some extra peds", instead of the long term foresight to understand how economy works and that it will hurt all porfoessions, even hunting if these are tradeable. Will it destroy the game, no, people adapt and so does this game, however it would be a step backwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan View Post
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    So what did you look at the tracker and determine my experience based on that? or did you just look at when i joined PCF and base it off that? You may have been hunting for years, but hunting puny's and pubs since 2017 and having a favourite mob of Kerbs does not instill confidence that you know hunting let alone this game at all.....Sorry don't take it personally.

    I am not saying the sky is falling...i have never said that in any of my posts on PCF, I am saying that it will affect all professions by having these tradeable. You have the short term vision of "this could be a good way for me to make some extra peds", instead of the long term foresight to understand how economy works and that it will hurt all porfoessions, even hunting if these are tradeable. Will it destroy the game, no, people adapt and so does this game, however it would be a step backwards.
    I suggest you look a few years back on tracker. Over 1700 longtooth over 1000 Atroxes and over 800 Rextelums. Then I realized that I did not like the 200 to 400 USD depos each month and I really just like to hunt and the game itself. I was in the top 100 all time hunter for some time but got tired of the depos all the time.

    Now I don't depo near as much and I am having just, if not more, fun than ever at a whole less costs. Moreover what is the fun in shooting the same mob for 5 minutes. Now I run around to find them, find fruit and stones while looking. Just more fun I think and less costly. I also know that I am not a Jenna Star and will never make a living here as he does.

    Last post for me here. This kind of thing is just mud slinging and serves no purpose. BTW I based my conclusions on you by the amount of loot (about 100K) you show in tracker not time in the game.

    Have a nice day.
    Last edited by CozMoDan; 10-09-2019 at 15:56.
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    Tbh the mudslinging starts at post 10. Before that no mudslinging at all. Just opinions. But then someone says that another player is full of crap.

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    Would be a very bad idea of making the daily tokens tradeable.

    First, many people would start just making tons of alt avatars and farming gauntlet daily 1-2 with minimal input for the daily 2 x 1 token's.

    Don't say no one will cheating, already lot of player cheating and scamming for some ped to be able to shoot, many would make tons of alts immediately.

    Even solo completing the instance cost you like 5 ped, and as they are "puny - prototype" mobs inside, you will get back around 4.5p from the run. With just joining to a team, you can few a couple of shots, or even skip gauntlet 1 and just join somebody to kill the boss of Gauntlet2 together for like 0.2-0.5p

    At a cost of 0.5p, you can get 1-2 token's.
    40 token than 10-20p cost.

    if token is sellable, you will sure sell it because poeples will use it as a cheaper version instead of armatrix weapons.
    For a 40 token Kallous weapon, you get like 20k uses.
    An Armatrix weapon for example the LR-20 will be used for 5k uses at 45p TT.
    So, for 10-20p cost, you can sell enough token for a gun, that will last as long, as 4 x full 45p TT armatrix weapon.
    Cost of the weapon will be of course a bit lower, so even at TT price it will be a cheaper option than an Armatrix.

    10-20p cost, like daily 5-15 minutes, in 20-40 days, depending on gauntlet 1-2 or just gauntlet2 boss, you got 180p worth of token.
    Peoples already sweating for much longer time for the fractional ammount of this.

    20 x 15 minutes is 5 hours. You can get 5p of sweat during that, or 180p of tokens.

    At the current form, it would be not a logical step to make it tradeable, first they would have to remove daily tokens from gauntlet, to make it impossible to farm easy token for almost zero cost and energy.
    And / or, make the daily weapons much worse than now.


    As i see the daily tokens, its something like a "free" option for a weapon for low budget, no or small depositor, to be able to use a good weapon without expensive purchase price, and be able to shoot some big mobs as he just have to buy ammo, and it last long enough to be able to collect enough for the next weapon before it runs out, but not something you could earn on.

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