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    Steady mining

    How steady is mining for the moment ?

    I would say very steady

    Here are the first results of a zone I've been doing to test this WITHOUT amps

    Red numbers are the cost - Green is TT return - Brown is after sales.

    On the left side all TT numbers - on the right side with MU numbers

    Tools I used
    F-106 + 10 depth enh (@ 200%) / T-105 / ME-01
    Every run = 100 Dual drops
    Depth was between 746 and 1332
    Better claims : 3 x 6 / 2 x 7 / 2 x 9 / 1 x 11
    Globals : None




    Here you can see that even my TT return / TT return + costs and after sales are all negative.

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    Tools I used
    F-106 + 8 depth enh (@ 200%) / T-105 / ME-01
    Every run = 100 Dual drops
    Depth was between 633 and 1246
    Better claims : 1 x 6 / 1 x 7 / 2 x 9
    Globals : 1 x 13 / 1 x 14



    Here you can see that even my TT return / TT return + costs and after sales are all positive.


    Average return so far


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    Tools I used
    F-106 + 6 depth enh[/U] (@ 200%) / T-105 / ME-01
    Every run = 100 Dual drops
    Depth was between 534 and 1236
    Better claims : 3 x 7 / 2 x 9 / 1 x 10 / 1 x 11
    Globals : None



    Average return so far


    Last edited by LeelooM; 11-04-2019 at 05:42. Reason: Added depths & multipliers
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    Depth Enhancers
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    The higher the year % - the bigger discount

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    Interesting to see your detailed figures. I'm interested though in what average depth you get with the fully enhanced F-106 and how it compares with a (L) finder with similar average depth as far as costs are concerned.

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    Looking at the figures, it looks normal, even better than most miners are experiencing, I think

    Did u get any globals from the runs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihazbackup View Post
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    Looking at the figures, it looks normal, even better than most miners are experiencing, I think

    Did u get any globals from the runs?
    No globals yet and I do not expect them unamped to be honest, only after XXXX runs :p

    I used to get over 100% TT return almost all the time but after the patch end sep ... that changed a lot

    Will see how the next runs go, then I prolly switch to only 6 depth enh to compare, and I might do a few amped lvl 2 runs also

    EDIT : When using amps (even low amps) I'll prolly get lower TT return. Losses come mostly from ores since HR dropped from 35-40 to 30. Amped this will cost more cause you get more NRF, but will see.
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    The higher the year % - the bigger discount

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykat View Post
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    Interesting to see your detailed figures. I'm interested though in what average depth you get with the fully enhanced F-106 and how it compares with a (L) finder with similar average depth as far as costs are concerned.
    Depth with 10 depth enh in those runs was between 746 and 1332
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    The higher the year % - the bigger discount

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    You mean 150 drops / run, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerham View Post
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    You mean 150 drops / run, I think.
    No 100 dual drops cause it's 100 ped for ores + 50 ped for enm
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    Damn, my bad, at first read I saw "no amp, no dual"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeelooM View Post
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    Depth with 10 depth enh in those runs was between 746 and 1332
    I make that an average about 1040 which is more than any un-enhanced finder presently available. The best that I can manage is Terramaster 6 with un-enhanced average of 885.

    I was also interested in your comment about tt returns falling off after the September VU. I used to get 100+% tt return regularly, but I noticed a decline from the beginning of September and I now rarely get any claim bigger than a 5 or 6. Globals are rare, I had just 1 in September and 2 so far this month. Previously, I was getting 6 or 7 a month or more. I mine unamped as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazykat View Post
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    Interesting to see your detailed figures. I'm interested though in what average depth you get with the fully enhanced F-106 and how it compares with a (L) finder with similar average depth as far as costs are concerned.
    Avg depth is 1k (I mean what is shown on the finder, 1014 smth). L with this would mean Terra 8 and vrx 3k, maxed at lvl 60, 61 resp. The biggest factor of difference is the enhancer breakrate. Per this sample, enhancers alone bring a cost of 7%. Would basically need 5 ingots of redulite to compensate that cost alone. Which in 750 drops, dunno, depends. One could rightfully argue that half of enhancers break rate is due to enmatter dropping, whereas enmatters' impact in overall tt is only 33%, and MU is up to Leeloo to judge if 250 peds of enmatter can bring in 27ish MU just to pay for their own enhancing.

    There are a few branches in making this comparison:

    - wether you have or not the skills to use said L
    - wether enhancer breakrate is directly proportional to double/triple drop (e.g. 2x resp 3x)
    - wether enhancer breakrate is directly proportional to amplification
    - wether enhancer breakrate is the same for ores and enmatter (somehow a consequence of the above, maybe)
    - finally, level of amplification, which should dilute enhancers' impact, pending above considerations

    In the most conservative estimation, L should be marginally cheaper, but you need the skill. I would personally think that ignoring bankroll size and ignoring level of skill, F106 fully enhanced or L are +-equal choices, with F106 the more flexible one, but nomatter the choice between them, what is fundamental is to pick an appropiate area and target set of resources/depth. This is far more important than a variation of +-2% in costs.

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