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Bjorn|MindArk said:
I'd like to clear up some apparent confusion as to how the results of this event were determined, especially the confustion surrounding multiple appearances by individual avatars on the final Top 100 list.

~snip~

I am not entirely sure why some participants feel that including multiple globals from individual avatars on the FRL is somehow unfair, since all participants in the event had an equal incentive at all times throughout the event to continue hunting in an effort to increase the amount of their highest single loot. Our limitation of one prize per avatar- specified in the event invitation mail -ensured that the event was fair for all involved.

~snip~

In hindsight, we probably could have described the prize determination process in more detail to avoid misunderstandings and frustration. That being said, I still feel that regardless of which method was used in sorting the list, all participants in the event had an equal and fair chance to win a prize, and thus the event as a whole was a fair and successful one.

In future events we will certainly make an effort to describe all aspects of event rules and procedures as clearly and fully as possible.
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I think everyone could see how the list was determined, and only the the extremely frustrated and wild conspiracy "crazies" think this is part of some plan, it is obvious that everyone had a fair chance at winning but i hope you realise that MA's record of getting events like this right first time is not very good. So much is done with hindsight when what is needed is a little foresight?

The reason that including multiple globals is unfair is that your own in game event system excludes multiple globals, i know english might not be the first language of people at MA headquarters, but highest single loot also implies a single highest loot, and not multiple entries, it did not happen this time but what if someone had gotten 1st and 3rd and 50th and 100th place, you would of had to filter out their other globals to get to the final result?
This fact led many to believe that these multiple entries would be filtered out regardless.
 
This discussion is not chiefly about who did or did not get a prize - it is about confidence the community has in MA being able to run an event, or indeed anything.

Since these events have the stated purpose from MA of encouraging players to resume or continue playing EU, I would have thought that should influence their response.
 
Oleg said:
As has been stated multiple times already, the reason is that the method you used is in conflict with the rules as stated in the invitation e-mail.
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Clearly, the confusion stems from the use of the term '"highest single loot" which was used to differentiate the event from many other Entropia events which use accumulated total loot to determine the winner. We wanted to make sure that those invited understood that avatars of all skill levels and gear would have a decent chance at winning a prize.

Unfortunately, this word choice apparently also caused confusion about the method that would be used to rank the globals and determine winners. For this we apologise, and will make every effort to avoid such confusion in future events.
 
Bjorn|MindArk said:
Clearly, the confusion stems from the use of the term '"highest single loot" which was used to differentiate the event from many other Entropia events which use accumulated total loot to determine the winner. We wanted to make sure that those invited understood that avatars of all skill levels and gear would have a decent chance at winning a prize.

Unfortunately, this word choice apparently also caused confusion about the method that would be used to rank the globals and determine winners. For this we apologise, and will make every effort to avoid such confusion in future events.
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No it didn't cause confusion - everyone in EU knows what it means. Everyone except you Bjorn it seems.

And never mind future events - give prizes to the rightful winners of this event. Your credibility is worth a lot more than 3 CLD (isn't it?)
 
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Bjorn|MindArk said:
4. Prizes were then determined based on positions on the FRL, with the following caveats: no avatar could win more than one prize, and prizes would be selected in descending order (1st prize first, 2nd prize second, etc.). This would ensure that each avatar could only win a single prize, and in cases where a single avatar occupied more than one prize position on the list, he/she would receive only the higher level prize. Any lower prize positions for that avatar would be removed, resulting in the next avatar in the list receiving the prize.
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That is a very strange way of doing it. As you removed one entry cause he won two prizes, but didnt remove others who had multiple entries

MA you would have been far better off just counting highest global from each avatar

Rgds

Ace
 
One final note.

I would like to point out that the issues raised here about the method used to determine prize winners in this event could only have *potentially* affected the extra prizes added for 25th, 50th and 100th place. The winners of prizes awarded for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th places (the most subtantial prizes) would be identical under both systems in all cases.

Thus in a way, MindArk is being barbecued for using the exact same event invitation wording, event format and event prize determination as was used for the inactive participants event, but with more prizes (marshmallows) offered for our active users.

Please keep that in mind when deciding how high to turn up the flames on us for this issue. :cdevil:
 
Btw, this would be the proper thing to do, give some more CLDs to the ones who were winning according to HSL as all players of EU know it. And indeed, if you guys from MA came more into the game you would know what HSL means there.
chevrons said:
No it didn't cause confusion - everyone in EU knows what it means. Everyone except you Bjorn it seems.
And never mind future events - give prizes to the rightful winners of this event. Your credibility is worth a lot more than 3 CLD (isn't it?)
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Looks legit :ahh:
 
Bjorn|MindArk said:
Thus in a way, MindArk is being barbecued for using the exact same event invitation wording, event format and event prize determination as was used for the inactive participants event, but with more prizes (marshmallows) offered for our active users.

Please keep that in mind when deciding how high to turn up the flames on us for this issue. :cdevil:
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So you blame us? :facepalm: Nice that you took my advice (admit&adapt), but in rhetorical manners that's not quite good reply :D
 
Well its sad with missunderstandings...I think MA had good intensions with this event eventhough i wasnt prepared that i would have to spend peds to have a chance to win stuff. I might have missread that mail about the survey, but i thought by completing it i had a chance to win. Now they added a twist :) hunting shitty argos with lousy returns....what a reward :) Good thing i live on ark....
 
guess "highest single loot" event means something els in MA headquarters than it does ingame :scratch2:

its kinda funny that if they had just done the event on a LA/event area using there own ingame event system they wouldnt have messed it up.

P.S. my 2k ped burned didnt even give a global so i wouldnt win anything anyway :laugh:
 
Seriously, their approach was the most "fair" and if there weren't confusion about the possible meanings of "single highest loot" it would be applauded as such. It makes sense that someone with three high loots have a better chance to win than someone with one.

However, they need to publish their methods in advance of events so that the fairness of the approach rather than misunderstandings of terminology can be appreciated. I am fully on board with the complaints that they repeatedly fail to explain until after.

Congrats to the winners. I finally got an Argo Scout global last night (60 peds or so) after killing about 4500, which is much less than many competitors who didn't global. It seems to me that the ire is comically misplaced here: if people are going to BBQ MA, it should be for the fact that the same avatars hit several high globals/HOFs on the tiny argos in a one-day period than that they allow those all to appear in their list. Sure, the next weekend it would have been different names, but it's the clustering of these things that creates problems repeatedly (looting multiples of a nice item drop in short time, multiple ubers in a few minutes, etc.) But that's old news. :rolleyes: Carry on with the torches and pitchforks...
 
As I read most of these statements I finally understand the meaning of forum trolls.

Good job MA!!! I had no problem whatsoever in understanding the definition of "highest single loot" and the results presented don't pose any awkwardness to me, even though you didn't award me one single global.
 
Haha nice screw up, I think it fairly obvious that you at mindark misunderstood the rules of your own event. Not the community.

Do the right thing and give the 3 land deed prizes to the real 25th, 50th and 100th place finishers.
 
chevrons said:
This discussion is not chiefly about who did or did not get a prize - it is about confidence the community has in MA being able to run an event, or indeed anything.

Since these events have the stated purpose from MA of encouraging players to resume or continue playing EU, I would have thought that should influence their response.
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absolutly right! :wise:

i emphasized a few words to make it clearer what chevrons is very right about. this was an event like stated quite some times now for a great variety of players. but as i see the outcome and the way it was handled i am very happy i didn´t took the challenge to participate.

and to come back to chevrons post, this is exactly a way to make me never ever want to try these events in the future. i wouldn´t have won anything here anyways but as i see how this is managed i´m not sure we players have been encouraged or got more confidence in any way.

my :twocents:
 
LOL @ Mindark
Even a monkey can understand that highest "SINGLE" loot mean highest SINGLE loot

and btw, shame on that crap event in which u ripped many ass as usual (killed around 3000 argo and best loot was maybe 15 ped)
 
Bjorn|MindArk said:
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Here is the method used to determine the winners of this event-
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First of all, there can be only one legit method to determine the winners and that is: HIGHEST SINGLE LOOT!!!
Like you clearly stated in the invitation.


Bjorn|MindArk said:
3. That filtered list of globals was then sorted in descending order (largest global to smallest), and a top 100 highest single loot list for the event was generated. We shall call this the FRL-Final Results List.
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No matter how you call that list, it is the wrong list! The rules for a highest single loot list are absolutely clear and cant be interpreted in another way.


Bjorn|MindArk said:
I am not entirely sure why some participants feel that including multiple globals from individual avatars on the FRL is somehow unfair...
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Well, there can't be a "FRL" and therefore it's not just unfair to include multiple globals, it's wrong!


Bjorn|MindArk said:
The original invitation email specified that the event winners would be determined by highest single loot, in contrast to many other events which accumulate total loot or points during the event times; for example Merry Mayhem. This highest single loot format...
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There you even call it HSL again, with reference to the other possible ingame event rule settings, wich are all absolutely clear in terms of the rules!



Bjorn|MindArk said:
In hindsight, we probably could have described the prize determination process in more detail to avoid misunderstandings and frustration.
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WRONG! You HAVE to describe it clearly IN FRONT of the event!
Since you failed to do so, there can be only one interpretation of the HSL rules!


Bjorn|MindArk said:
Unfortunately, this word choice apparently also caused confusion about the method that would be used to rank the globals and determine winners. For this we apologise, and will make every effort to avoid such confusion in future events.
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Bjorn|MindArk said:
One final note.

I would like to point out that the issues raised here about the method used to determine prize winners in this event could only have *potentially* affected the extra prizes added for 25th, 50th and 100th place. The winners of prizes awarded for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th places (the most subtantial prizes) would be identical under both systems in all cases.

Thus in a way, MindArk is being barbecued for using the exact same event invitation wording, event format and event prize determination as was used for the inactive participants event, but with more prizes (marshmallows) offered for our active users.

Please keep that in mind when deciding how high to turn up the flames on us for this issue. :cdevil:
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It is absolutely irrelevant, potentially or not. Even if we are "just" talking about the way you are handling your own rules.
No matter how hard you try and wich empty rethoric stunts you are trying to use, the list used to determine the eventwinners is wrong!
It is wrong because you declared the HSL rules as method to run this event and you failed to describe other rules in front of the event.
If you are now trying to interpret these HSL rules in any other way to justify the outcome of the event, i call that shady!!!
Shame on you and everyone at MA who agrees to this bending of community wide known rules!!!

Now stop twisting your own words and do the only possible right thing, please!
 
Lol you people (and I am talking to players), have a blonde moment.

So in your opinion, x>x+1. Great.

How the f'ck would be fair for somebody holding #87 and #100 to lose the prize for #100 in favor of somebody with an actual lower value of global? For the "guilt" of having another global, higher than both competing for #100?

In the e-mail is written

"Winners will be determined by their highest single loot on the following creature:"

Nowhere is written "only one entry", is "only one prize".

There is no possible interpretation which to say that a global of 85 merits more a prize than one of 90 (aside from 85 being on #100 and 90 on #99, in this event).

It's the actual order of globals which OBVIOUSLY counts, and not the order of PLAYERS.
 
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Kerham said:
"Winners will be determined by their highest single loot on the following creature:"

Nowhere is written "only one entry", is "only one prize".
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I realise that English is probably not your first language, but you know what "highest" means, right? By definition "their highest single loot" means there can only be one entry per person.

The method described by Bjorn would have made sense if the rules had stated, for example, "the highest 100 loots".
 
Epic Fail :confused:

My main comment I have is "EPIC FAIL".

An event that was supposed to generate some good will, and reward for active players, has yet again ended in a mess. I won't even discuss the loot from the event.

The so called "FRL" should have been filtered so that the HSL for each participant was recorded, and the list of winners determined. Failing to do that final filter is where you went wrong. Common sense should have factored into this process.

It IS the people in 25th, 50th, and 100th that got screwed. While not a huge amount, if I was 101, and one duplicate caused me to lose, I would not be very happy. (Just an example, not fact in any way)

16% decline in deposits compared to 1st Q 2011 to 1st Q 2012 is a trend that is continuing, more people are selling out than coming in, and those who have been lucky enough to be cashed up in game, get the bounty of swooping in and picking up good assets for cheap and are the short term winners. Many examples could be shown to prove this out.

At some point, those that have managed to secure all of the top assets in the game will be sitting with property saying "Where did everyone go?", and how come I can't sell any of this.

My constructive Suggestion to MA: Create some method of consultation with the player base. A rotating group, selected from the low, middle, and Top players in the game that you can go to and get the REAL pulse of what's happening. Ignoring your customer, therefore your revenue stream will be your undoing.

I am sure there are plenty of players like me who would like the opportunity to give you feedback. Not just bitch, but real, practical feedback about what is happening on the ground in the universe.

To Bjorn from MA: I think you need to reconsider your final filtering of the "FRL" and make it right, once again. You guys stepped up on the first event, do the right thing, and step up again. You will gain far more respect for doing so, and will cost MA nothing in the grand scheme of things, since it's just a few CLD's at issue. Goodwill is far harder to obtain than bad, in case you haven't noticed from this thread.

Look forward to seeing how this plays out.

Regards,

Dakin
 
Fun event, was free, chance at great prizes, if you have not won a prize yet you are eligable for a possible future email event. The whiners will always find a reason to whine and spread there own misery, that often stems from bad choices made in RL.

I only did a thousand or so Argo and stopped as they are to small for mu loot I was after. But I did get some cheap kills on my bronze mission :)
 
Kerham said:
"Winners will be determined by their highest single loot on the following creature:"
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I don't think it warrants the outcry generated, but that was a bit unclear. In a traditional HSL event, you can't be placed in multiple positions.

If Person X got 8th place in this had also got 25th place, it isn't clear from the description who would get the 25th place prize. From what Bjorn has said now, person X would have got the prize. But since their HSL was the 8th place one, it wasn't clear beforehand that that was how it would work.
 
OK MA/Bjorn let me simplify to you about the 'confusion' that we stupid people are confused about.

So according to your list below these guys have won fair ...

Top 100 List:

1- William Will Last- 3154.24
2- Micro Moose Moose- 3122.36
3- Calin Panther Amaritei- 2987.38
4- Joker Mitya Pupkin- 1154.54
5- Leon Slippery Shockwave- 1135.49
6- Dredge- 1127.96
7- Lycan- 372.83
8- Xen- 357.37
9- Mesa- 357.22
10- tail- 354.18
11- Causality- 347.55
12- Partridge- 345.78
13- Skippie- 344R.45
14- Xen- 329.49
15- emil- 324.05
16- Siam- 323.50
17- Tor- 317.02
18- Focus- 307.91
19- JB- 305.11
20- Rei- 303.36
21- Causality- 300.86
22- Causality- 295.81
23- THREE- 293.60
24- Voom- 291.81
25- Zenith Zen Cool - 291.52
26- Deke- 290.55
27- Smilgs- 287.02
28- Kiri- 286.86
29- Little- 284.30
30- toad- 284.27
31- Lycan- 283.17
31- CyborgAtt- 282.48
32- Samantha- 281.97
33- Oni- 281.96
34- Scionyde- 280.80
35- Aladding- 279.76
36- Alric- 277.46
37- Yours- 276.40
38- Head- 275.98
39- Skippie- 275.69
40- JIIIS- 271.86
41- Angbu- 269.42
42- Lone- 268.07
43- lockside- 266.07
44- excutioner- 261.48
45- Eman- 259.12
46- Artrat- 257.86
47- Snygglisa- 253.74
48- Maiden- 253.00
49- seegarten- 250.33
50- Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter - 187.06
51- cc- 186.69
52- Uniqu3- 169.25
53- Uniqu3- 155.36
54- Koter- 155.13
55- Xavier- 148.92
56- Mczimi- 143.87
57- cc- 137.94
58- Mczimi- 137.07
59- Uniqu3- 133.20
60- cc- 126.57
61- Koter- 119.90
62- Koter- 119.74
63- Koter- 107.06
64- Slippery- 102.77
65- Rei- 101.29
66- Cybertrash- 99.14
67- Leona- 98.64
68- Cougar- 97.41
69- cc- 97.22
70- Sweets- 96.44
71- Samantha- 95.43
72- Jean-Luc- 94.25
73- Uniqu3- 94.04
74- Uniqu3- 93.18
75- Male - 92.76
76- Gaz- 92.52
77- johntrike- 92.49
78- Maneater- 91.92
79 Kestukas- 91.91
80- Spike- 91.35
81- Loki- 91.00
82- Mya- 90.70
83- James- 90.17
84- Mack- 90.15
85- Smilgs- 89.52
86- Mc Angel- 88.97
87- apariciogerardo- 88.90
88- Slippery- 88.84
89- dark- 88.60
90- Skankinbob- 88.57
91- SunG- 88.53
92- toritobravo- 88.50
93- Zoki- 88.42
94- Krawuzikapuzi- 88.25
95- Storm- 87.84
96- Daniel- 87.38
97- Johnny- 87.23
98- Forgo- 87.10
99- lockside- 87.09
100- Resnis Resnis Tusnis - 86.52



NOW LETS MAKE IT SIMPLE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE SAYING. Since EU loot is dynamic as reiterated by MA over and over again. ANY of those players could have got a different Global value. So, lets swap a few player names with their global value.

1- Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter - 3154.24
2- Micro Moose Moose- 3122.36
3- Calin Panther Amaritei- 2987.38
4- Joker Mitya Pupkin- 1154.54
5- Leon Slippery Shockwave- 1135.49
6- Dredge- 1127.96
7- Lycan- 372.83
8- Xen- 357.37
9- Mesa- 357.22
10- tail- 354.18
11- Causality- 347.55
12- Partridge- 345.78
13- Skippie- 344R.45
14- Xen- 329.49
15- emil- 324.05
16- Siam- 323.50
17- Tor- 317.02
18- Focus- 307.91
19- JB- 305.11
20- Rei- 303.36
21- Causality- 300.86
22- Causality- 295.81
23- THREE- 293.60
24- Voom- 291.81
25-Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter - 291.52
26- Deke- 290.55
27- Smilgs- 287.02
28- Kiri- 286.86
29- Little- 284.30
30- toad- 284.27
31- Lycan- 283.17
31- CyborgAtt- 282.48
32- Samantha- 281.97
33- Oni- 281.96
34- Scionyde- 280.80
35- Aladding- 279.76
36- Alric- 277.46
37- Yours- 276.40
38- Head- 275.98
39- Skippie- 275.69
40- JIIIS- 271.86
41- Angbu- 269.42
42- Lone- 268.07
43- lockside- 266.07
44- excutioner- 261.48
45- Eman- 259.12
46- Artrat- 257.86
47- Snygglisa- 253.74
48- Maiden- 253.00
49- seegarten- 250.33
50- Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter - 187.06
51- cc- 186.69
52- Uniqu3- 169.25
53- Uniqu3- 155.36
54- Koter- 155.13
55- Xavier- 148.92
56- Mczimi- 143.87
57- cc- 137.94
58- Mczimi- 137.07
59- Uniqu3- 133.20
60- cc- 126.57
61- Koter- 119.90
62- Koter- 119.74
63- Koter- 107.06
64- Slippery- 102.77
65- Rei- 101.29
66- Cybertrash- 99.14
67- Leona- 98.64
68- Cougar- 97.41
69- cc- 97.22
70- Sweets- 96.44
71- Samantha- 95.43
72- Jean-Luc- 94.25
73- Uniqu3- 94.04
74- Uniqu3- 93.18
75- Male - 92.76
76- Gaz- 92.52
77- johntrike- 92.49
78- Maneater- 91.92
79 Kestukas- 91.91
80- Spike- 91.35
81- Loki- 91.00
82- Mya- 90.70
83- James- 90.17
84- Mack- 90.15
85- Smilgs- 89.52
86- Mc Angel- 88.97
87- apariciogerardo- 88.90
88- Slippery- 88.84
89- dark- 88.60
90- Skankinbob- 88.57
91- SunG- 88.53
92- toritobravo- 88.50
93- Zoki- 88.42
94- Krawuzikapuzi- 88.25
95- Storm- 87.84
96- Daniel- 87.38
97- Johnny- 87.23
98- Forgo- 87.10
99- lockside- 87.09
100- Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter - 86.52

So, in other words based on your system Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter could have potentially won 1st/25th/50th/100th prize (sorry Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter just using your name as an example) .... absolutely NO competition/game in the history of mankind has used a simillar method .... its like saying an Olympic Gold medalist also came 5th in the same event... I am sure we are the ones confused :laugh:
 
Y'know, I'm not sure if some folks are just addicted to bitching for silly reasons, or maybe this is some conspiracy hoping that I'll go berserk again. (For the record: Nope.)

It seems the biggest problem is that most of you are focusing on the "single highest loot" in only one context.

Instead of focusing as: "single highest loot = your single entry"

See it more as: "You could only win one prize."

For those that missed it (like Sunny above):

Bjorn|MindArk said:
in cases where a single avatar occupied more than one prize position on the list, he/she would receive only the higher level prize.

In fact, this happened with the FRL for this event. Uniqu3 Uniqu3 Hunter, winner of the 50th place prize, also happened to occupy the 100th place on the FRL, with a global of 86.53 PED. Following the procedure described above, his name was removed and the next global on the list- Resnis Resnis Tusnis, with a global of 86.52 PED -received the prize for 100th place.
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Clearly, Uniqu3's multiple globals did not qualify him for multiple prizes.

Could they have filtered only the one highest global from every player? Yep. Would that have altered who won 3 of the prizes? Yep.

But they didn't. And out of all of you, y'know who has a legit right to bitch? According to girtsn's research, Kiri, Xavier and one other unknown person who's highest global was between 50 and 86.52, likely closer to 50 (and had the email invitation to begin with).

Yes, on a technicality, you folks are right. MA's methodology didn't meet with the strictest meaning of the phrase "Single highest loot". But here's the important part:

Unless you are Kiri, Xavier or meet that narrow criteria, you got no reason to bitch about the rules, because you wouldn't have won anyway. (For the record, me & my wife both got invites, tried and failed to global. So we lost. Oh well. Better luck to us next time.)

And yes, as others said, they may not have had over 100 invited players global, thus rendering the last prize void, which would have also pissed off folks.

So once again, MA can't win.
 
JohnCapital said:
It seems the biggest problem is that most of you are focusing on the "single highest loot" in only one context.
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It's not "single highest loot" though, it's "their single highest loot", which cannot possibly be a plural under any interpretation of the English language.

JohnCapital said:
Unless you are Kiri, Xavier or meet that narrow criteria, you got no reason to bitch about the rules, because you wouldn't have won anyway.
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What about the people who based their strategy on the rules that were stated in the e-mail, only to find that they should have employed a completely different strategy? Perhaps the stupidest thing about this whole debacle is that, I suspect, a lot of people would have hunted a lot more if they'd known how the winners were going to be determined. I know I would have. As it was, I barely took part at all.

(It's not Xavier btw, it's mczimi, girts didn't remove all the duplicates).

JohnCapital said:
So once again, MA can't win.
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At this stage, perhaps not, but they could have just not screwed it up in the first place.
 
Oleg said:
It's not "single highest loot" though, it's "their single highest loot", which cannot possibly be a plural under any interpretation of the English language.
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As I said, I conceded that MA made their list in a method other than the exact definition of "single highest loot".

Oleg said:
What about the people who based their strategy on the rules that were stated in the e-mail, only to find that they should have employed a completely different strategy?
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They lost. I'm sorry, but in any situation, someone whining about losing an event just looks poor in my eyes, even when the event seems to have gone contrary to what they were expecting.

Oleg said:
Perhaps the stupidest thing about this whole debacle is that, I suspect, a lot of people would have hunted a lot more if they'd known how the winners were going to be determined. I know I would have. As it was, I barely took part at all.
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See now, this comment right here is actually worth saying. It's not just bitching and actually gives MA feedback in a way that might help them: Explaining why/how to setup/explain their next event in order to encourage increased activity. :)

Oleg said:
(It's not Xavier btw, it's mczimi, girts didn't remove all the duplicates).
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Fine then he gets to complain, and Xavier gets to not complain[SUP]2[/SUP], since he lost on two lists. :laugh:
 
JohnCapital said:
Clearly, Uniqu3's multiple globals did not qualify him for multiple prizes.

Could they have filtered only the one highest global from every player? Yep. Would that have altered who won 3 of the prizes? Yep.

But they didn't. And out of all of you, y'know who has a legit right to bitch? According to girtsn's research, Kiri, Xavier and one other unknown person who's highest global was between 50 and 86.52, likely closer to 50 (and had the email invitation to begin with).
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Don't quite Agree with you on this, as the Prize distribution based on 25th/50th/100th position was only announced with the prize announcement. The whole comp would have been a sham if it was the top 10 or every 5th player won etc etc... But there was nothing justified as to who will win what except for MA's announcement about the 'Highest Single Loot' ... and honestly I don't have a problem with how things are worded rather than the fundamental concept of a competition. YOU CAN NOT GIVE MULTIPLE POSITIONS TO A SINGLE PLAYER IN A COMP BOARD WHETHER THEY WIN A PRIZE OR NOT!

Sorry but this doesn't instill confidence in people when 1.) they don't know how the comp winners will be chosen 2.) if the rules of entry are modified as per MA's wish in the last minute.

I also do not agree with the concept of not having the 'right' to criticize just because we haven't won. As I said in one of the other posts... if the prizes were distributed rightfully in a justified manner I would happily accept my failure in this Event so will all the rest of the 'whiners'. Everyone involved in this Event has spent quite a bit of peds and hours to have the 'right' to comment.
 
SunnyS said:
Don't quite Agree with you on this...
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Sunny, your entire last post was based on the "1 person could win multiple prizes" and I proved you wrong straight from an officials own words. The rest is just moaning and whining.

In both cases, real and expected, you didn't win. I didn't win. We're losers. Sucks to be us. Better luck next time.
 
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