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Do you watch us MA?

Years ago IN THE BEGINNING the server that ran the game would crash.So you would look at the clock on the wall at home and estimate 8am Swedish time and then picture in your mind the first MA staffer getting to work to reset the server and sure enough it happened like clock work! The game would be back up and the withdrawls like a drug addict has would subside.Well i always pictured the guy walking in and looking at a screen on some obscure desk and seeing that infact the game was offline he would reset the server and go have a coffee.So im betting that same old 15" monitor is still showing EU is running but thats about the extent of thier interest.
 
They can and do watch...

When the 6 or 8 Hydra were being spawned and Manticore Society tagged one and dragged it to a turret, later on AG was chatting in PM to an MA person and he said how they couldn't believe what we were going to do with the Hydra as they watched in the office.

Video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCJGgOZFVM
 
Its easier to just give away 90% of their money recieved :) they dont care who get big one :)
 
Nobleone said:
They can and do watch...

When the 6 or 8 Hydra were being spawned and Manticore Society tagged one and dragged it to a turret, later on AG was chatting in PM to an MA person and he said how they couldn't believe what we were going to do with the Hydra as they watched in the office.

Video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCJGgOZFVM
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Quite a bullshit statement from MA, that particular hydra had such a high regen that it was impossible to kill.
(And there was no shared loot back then, so "more hunters" was not really an option back then)

The hydras spawned after this one had a corrected (lowered) regen, so they obviously noticed their mistake - turreting it was the only logical step.


But yeah, they are watching us - i still have a hof screenie where i said something along the lines of "sometimes i hate this game" in local chat immeditately before.
 
I've sometimes wondered if I'm the only real avatar in game and the rest are MA controlled or NPCs.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show anyone?
 
i think they do but just when some is out "tolerance" of the main parameters.
I mean if someone is gain too much for example i guess that some ring and they can check about. Or maybe during some important events. SO more or less i agree with your opinions here around.
For the rest i really don t think they waste time and money paying some one that just go around the Universe or read the many forums out there to taste the player base mod.
 
thoreau said:
I always had this type of vision....

Zoom out from a keyboard to a control room. You see several large monitors with people buzzing around a room (think mission control)

Controling the action is Marco.

'Let me see server 1. Who's hunting there?' Marco asks.
'No one of interest sir,' replies lacky #1.

'Let me see server 2. Who's hunting there?' Marco barks.
'No one of interest sir,' replies lacky #2.

'Let me see....'

'Can someone find me a server with someone hunting that is wearing more than f&ck1ing Pixie?' screams Marco. 'I've got a sun lamp and a pound of chocolate waiting for me.'

'Sir, we have someone in Angel with 255 HPs on server 18.'

Marco smiles. 'Good...Good.'

'Ok, how much do we want to give 'em?' Marco yells.

'100k...no...200k....' sing the chorus of lackies.

'Cmon...we can do better than that,' Marco yells.

'Eon parts...Eon parts... Drop some Eon parts,' a programmer offers.

'Drop a mod fap...Drop a mod fap,' a network guy screams.

Marco looking like the cat that ate the canary says, 'Ok...I want 125,000 Peds, a DAR9300, and 1 animal hide.'

a new guy looks at Marco and asks, 'Why the hide?'

Marco lights a cigar takes a deep drag and says smoothly, 'Because i can my boy. Because I can.'
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Flash from the past.
 
BBpunisher said:
I've sometimes wondered if I'm the only real avatar in game and the rest are MA controlled or NPCs.

Jim Carrey in The Truman Show anyone?
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You know....I kind of think like that too, but to a smaller extent.

I mostly have this mentality that probably some of the "high-fliers" in the game might be MA personnel. Purposely seeded into the game to be the "beacons" of the game and us....like moths to fire. :monkey:
 
That is when you get the "Failed" messages. They are watching you and causing you to have connection problems.:dunce:
 
martinstids said:
Its easier to just give away 90% of their money recieved :) they dont care who get big one :)
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In fact they LESS than don't care lol They would have SO many legal issues come up if they were picking and choosing the people that got the HoF's - I'm sure they prefer and are in some ways legally bound to keep a blind eye to who is getting the big loots.

Fifth said:
Nobody is watching us... ;)
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Incorrect. They are watching us every minute of every day. But not in the sense that most people think - they don't have 20 monitors up rotating between different avatar views. They are watching us on a global scale from a balancing perspective making sure there is nothing "fishy" happening and looking at globally how many resource and items there are in existence at any one time as well as monitoring the markup rates of the commodities to ensure no one is gaming the system. In fact I would not be surprised if the balancing department was one of the largest in the company.

And yes, as admins they have the power to place a camera on any avatar at any point and have the ability to spawn/tp an avatar to another avatars location easily. But I assume this is rarely done as there's no point paying staff to arbitrarily spy on random avatars just to see what they're doing.
 
Alainax said:
Will think twice before taking my clothes off next time :laugh:
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Oh Alaina its the lag when we do..btw they never watch..they would be so sad for me..LOL!..Ok or laugh their heads off..can't decide..Damn!! ;) Nothing worse than lag in your underware at auction..eeeps!
 
They shou;d be able to , its called console commands (mostly the ~ button next to 1 opens it (wont be accesible in entropia for players).

To get the basic idear how it works. google fallout 3 console commands (cheats).
In entropia it wil work the same way most likely.

this page as a nice excample using the game crysis (cryengine 1 )
http://www.cheatcc.com/pc/crysischeatscodes.html
 
jambon said:
... looking at globally how many resource and items there are in existence at any one time as well as monitoring the markup rates of the commodities to ensure no one is gaming the system. In fact I would not be surprised if the balancing department was one of the largest in the company.
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There's nobody sitting at the monitor who manually increases LR32 drops if he notices there's none left on the auction.
The loot distribution balancing is fully automatic now, has been for some time already... afaik. The balancing team (which is just 1 person most likely) is only fine-tuning the rules in the Big Machine.

There's nobody watching us (most of the time) but it doesn't prove we are not paranoid! ;)
 
jambon said:
...Incorrect. They are watching us every minute of every day. But not in the sense that most people think - they don't have 20 monitors up rotating between different avatar views. They are watching us on a global scale from a balancing perspective making sure there is nothing "fishy" happening and looking at globally how many resource and items there are in existence at any one time as well as monitoring the markup rates of the commodities to ensure no one is gaming the system. In fact I would not be surprised if the balancing department was one of the largest in the company.
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If this was remotely true then please explain how Pavilon and RADDIM managed to steal hundreds of k's of euro's out of the lootpool without MA noticing it at all, while plenty of us found it fishy from day 1...
 
Svarog said:
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It's funny how I hear so often in game that Swedes are given better rewards etc. As EU would be part of the Swedish welfare program and remarks like that.

Yet in this pic in the bottom right balloon it's kinda suggested Swedes are the ones paying more than others for any loot they might receive and I only see it getting +reps :S

The rest of the picture is nice though ;p
 
Luckycharm said:
It's funny how I hear so often in game that Swedes are given better rewards etc.
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I think main reason for that perception is that there were more swedes in from the beginning - but this applies to everyone with "luck" and right "business approach" who joined at the right time and made the right decisions - people like Star etc. And, at the time, grouped together with equal people and together working as a force - if you needed a mod fap during a hunt you could borrow it from a socmate and the socmate could borrow your mod merc - that is, people you've known from the beginning).

If you made the decisoin back then to buy mod fap for maybe 1500 ped though you knew the origin might be "grey", íf you knew how to make the max out of the disciple system, if you were good enough back then to hunt mobs that regularily dropped those items with markup back then, if you knew how to mine to steadily get more back in TT that you paid for probes etc, and later on when you had managed to buld a sum of PEDs, you bought a landarea when they were first sold in auction, you bought hangar when all the use for them was to travel to CP.
 
Luckycharm said:
If this was remotely true then please explain how Pavilon and RADDIM managed to steal hundreds of k's of euro's out of the lootpool without MA noticing it at all, while plenty of us found it fishy from day 1...
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Yeah that's a big trigger for a lot of people - but they DID end up catching these people and locking their accounts as well as many others that were trying to pull the same thing and are/were pending investigation. Who really knows what happened with this, was there ever an official statement made as to what happened with these people and the money they stole? In fact, was it even officially confirmed it was an exploit and not some crazy rich guys with a few hundred 109 amps? I'd love to read the statement it if anybody can point me to it.

A lot of people SAY that they just got to walk away with the money and how it crippled the loot pool...etc..etc. But I wouldn't be surprised if that was just people assuming the worst (which is usually the norm in this community it seems). I mean on average they were getting about 6,500 peds a day which can easily slip under the radar when 95% of all claims are under 500 peds and during a 2 hour window. Especially when you compare this to the average daily value of all mining globals in EU being around 150,000 ped (that's less than 4% of the daily pool). If they were mining like 20 hours a day and hitting a couple dozen ubers every day I'm sure they would have been caught a lot faster.

Either way, if Pavilon and RADDIM were using some exploit or hack they are facing some pretty serious charges I wouldn't be surprised if this is still an ongoing issue with their legal department.

Why were they able to use an exploit for so long without MA knowing? Well who's to say they didn't notice and were watching them closely logging all their actions for a while to build enough evidence for a conviction? Or maybe the exploit wasn't creating a big enough blip to warrant investigation sooner (as described earlier).

Who knows - my point is though is that after that big scandal you would have to assume that now more than ever they are watching us more closely to prevent something like that happening in the future.

So do I think they are watching us? YEP - At least a hell of a lot more than they used too...
 
funny

I didn't think MA was watching us untill this happend lol. I was mad because I spend 2 lvl 7 amps and only two claims (100 back) hah

 
A big company should have the ability to check any ava i think.

But due to their big work, I think they dont have time to simply go watch those thousands of ppl playing each day.

As some said, maybe if they notice something fishy on going they might act. But in case RADDIM and Pavilon, those were caugh by MA or did some ppl tell MA about them to investigate?
 
RickEngland said:
I have often wondered if Planet Calypso staff have like 20 screens on their wall watching various people at various times hunt. Maybe they watch computer stats and know exactly who is about to pop a big one, so they flick us up on the big screen and watch us pop a big hof, and smile at our reactions.

Or maybe they are so busy with other stuff that they don't.

So do you watch us MA?

LOL

Rick
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I was a programmer of one verry similar game like Eu.

i had an avatar wich was Hidden, noone could se me , in radar too.

i had such functions : Hide/unhide , track conversations, view skills, view stats, modify stats, spawn NPC, create (spawn) item in self or other inventory, kick avatar from game, ban avatar from game,tp to avatar or recall avatar to myself and other functions.

so 90% i think there is same functions in Ma avatars, i think there is some ma avatars standing in hidden mode and tracking the action every day.

but there is no Ma avatars that can control loot.
they can spawn 10000 atrox in one place, but they cannot intefare loot
 
Fifth said:
There's nobody sitting at the monitor who manually increases LR32 drops if he notices there's none left on the auction.
The loot distribution balancing is fully automatic now, has been for some time already... afaik. The balancing team (which is just 1 person most likely) is only fine-tuning the rules in the Big Machine.

There's nobody watching us (most of the time) but it doesn't prove we are not paranoid! ;)
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I think I read somewhere that there's at least 3 folks on the loot balancing team. Magnus used to head that team, but I don't think he does any more since he's now COO???...

http://www.virtualmindhive.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t6742.html
In Entropia Universe, a virtual world in which the exchange rate has been fixed at 10 Project Entropia dollars for every one U.S. dollar, "balancing manager," Magnus Eriksson, has worked for six years tuning the in-game "laws of nature" to maintain a stable, predictable economy.
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http://www.entropiaplanets.com/wiki/Entropia_Universe_News
MindArk attending Stratics HoC 04 Nov 2003
On Thrusday the sixth of November, the MindArk Community Manager Marco Behrmann and Balancing Manager Magnus Eriksson, will attend the next Stratic's House of Commons chat. More info is available at Stratics.
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System design
MindArk PE AB
Public Company; 11-50 employees; Computer Games industry
2002 – 2005 (3 years) MindArk, Gothenburg

Responisble for designing systems for the 3D platform Entropia Universe. Concept, requirements and rule design and balancing of the systems.
I also has the responsibllity to balance the live system virtual economy.
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(Hey Magnus, if you are reading this, I just noticed that you have a little typo there... it's responsible, not responisble... might want to clean that up sometime ;))

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http://www.entropiauniverse.com/bulletin/buzz/2012/5/23/Developer-Notes---1.xml
The MindArk balancing team monitors resource availability and distribution among the planets very closely, and is constantly making adjustments to achieve the goals of local planetary economy growth and interplanetary trade.
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https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/...swers-(May-07)&p=792907&viewfull=1#post792907
Post 80
As far as I know only CEO and balance-manager know exactly about and set the parameters of the loot-system.
Since this is the most important part of the whole RCE-game: Is some 3rd person/team checking their work or do they just proof each others work?
Submitted by Agnus Dei

There is a bigger team working with these questions today.


Post 87
We've heard the term "Balancing Manager" ad nauseum, but there's been no real description of what that position entails. Please describe exactly what you balance.
Submitted by AlphaGeek

Firstly, there is a whole team involved in balancing work. The team analyze every new system from when it’s only an idea to when you all are using it.

What will the system affect? What will it give and what will it take? What should the cost be to use the system and the items connected to it? Who will use the system, who are the real life users of system and who are the in world users? How will the system affect the performance of the hardware and the software platform and what will it cost to solve possible bottlenecks?

And of course the team continually analyze how a system works long after it has been released.
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Ofc they watching us. They like Santa Clauses, you just need to talk right with them:

 
MA has under 50 employees.. unless they hired 3rd party offshore cheap-labor company (and I'm not talking support) with 200 employees for monitoring, they cannot watch squat. Active players beats them 100:1 :)

This is why exploits takes ages to be spotted, usually via support cases. The latest speed-hack cheat in space is proof.

Seems true however that sparsely bad-mouthing MA in game while hunt/mining will make your loot better- think automated word "traps" :) (hope now they will have an overflow of hits)
 
Lol and many other of us with pocket money;)
Without facetious content why would MA not monitor its asset!
Less is more...move on.
 
I think they watch certain people.
 
Spawn said:
What a coincidence, you got a perception gain.
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oh come on, nobody believes in perception still do they, only a complete fool would spend hours chasing perception gains :D
its obvious from drews screenshot that someone at MA likes it when you talk dirty to them :p

closer to the topic, it should be obvious that MA can watch you if they want, why they would want to is a better question imho. anyone that has been a admin in a online game knows the incredible powers that come with that task. In a game where i was GM most of the time was spent catching and banning cheaters, as i did my admin tasks without announcing i was a GM i used to get many messages accusing my avatar of being a exploiter. :)
 
ofc they do. always and forever.

No personal loot pool right?

They want you to enjoy Entropia right?

Your government is on your side right?

and then...
 
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