Msturlese
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- Marco Killy Stur
I never looked into this token trader....
let's see what is available
8 LB50 swords 1p 48k M (i sold mien at 30k , same price as i purchaed it 1 month ago) 1 P 48k M
9 SB90 knifes 1p 88k M
1 LP100 1p 117k M
10 BP110 1p 110k M
10 LP120 1p 110k M
8 BP130 1p 120k M
I try to value items based on the RAW PED OBTAINABLE and not by market demand and supply
that absorbs the difference between that value and the trading balue.
caluclation is based on a Mtoken value of 0.5 PED that is coherent with 10 M token per 1 pill sold at 5 PED
that means if 10 M token are 5 ped (devastim 10mg hyperstim 10mg and such) 1 M token is 0.5 ped.
Here the thing become curious......
case 1. LB50 .... 48k Mtoken (24.000 Ped) sold at 30k (i purchased it and sold for same value,
on request i can give names but we all saw it advertised) means a P token is valued 6.000 Ped
for this specific weapon
Case 2. BC30 rifle. (out of stock, 1 P 26k M) i am sure a friend paid 24.000 for that.... 13.000 of M token
and the difference is tha value attrivbuted to market to that P token.... 11.000 ped
Case 3: LR 60 (been told recently traded for 55.000 Ped... 2 P token 70.000 M token that is 35.000
PED for the M and again 20.000 for 2 P (10.000 PED each one)
Case 3: (just hypotetic) BP110 LP120 (same cost) 55.000 as per Mtokens,,,, i am sure would NOT
sell for 66.000 PED ( that is the same token used to get the LB50 and the BC30....)
Case 4: BP 70 (MANUFACTURE COST) 2P and 90.000 Token : at the rates above it come out
45.000 + 20.000 = 65.000 PED (unsold at last live auctiona t 145.000).... the 80.000 PED OVER
manifacture cost are the rarity premium paid from demand and supply
case 5: LP40 2 P 45.000 M 20.000+22500 = 42.500 PED ... here premium is evebn BIger than
the one on BP 70, seems a Unicorn weapon that make u win even if u cant shot
Case 6: Hedoc mayhem adjusted i sold mine for 1600 PED.... 1P token 4000 M token
it is passing hand UNDER THE VALUE OF TOKEN REQUIRED.... 2000 ped of M and at least
based on teh Poor LB50 at 6000 .... (as you can see there are 25 ins tock no one exchange for it
was dropped in instance as told me the guy that traded it for a Sword of avout 1500 ped value
All the above was to infere the value of a Ptoken that in my very humble opinion has a consensus
of 10.000 PED and an M token that (evidence of Pills market ) is per se valued 0.5 ped
MA is many things but for sure is not Santa Claus..... if some items require more token it is because
for some reason i do not understand (i am a noob, just a number cruncher) are better
i am not winning a Ptoken, so its is just an exercise, but i would go for Lp100 or BP130
to exchange... in EU if ti cost mroe its generally better.
Market price is nothat thing, also in stock market the ACTUAL value of a stock has few to do
with company value.
i think that for many items in game actual value has nothing to to with real value.
it is JUST expression of supply and demand. sometime it overvalues, some undervalues.
poor LB50 is penalized, probabaly because of being melee.
This brings me directly to teh last conclusions (MA is not Santa and is not incoherent)
look efficiencty of Pistols in mayhem trader
BP70 92.5%
BC80 88%
LP100 84%
BP110 79.5%
lp120 65%
BP130 65.5%
can you spot it. ? i see something intersting well i see the PROOF that LOOTER+EFF are combined
being looter (roughly) HALF of level of the hunter...........
welll i am spoling already too much
let someone else go forward.....
lets say that over level 140 all weapons are the same
with that in view a high eff weapon is MORE useful at lower levels than at higher ones.....
due to (as in many other threads is stated) looter compesnate for it......
open to receive flames
marco
let's see what is available
8 LB50 swords 1p 48k M (i sold mien at 30k , same price as i purchaed it 1 month ago) 1 P 48k M
9 SB90 knifes 1p 88k M
1 LP100 1p 117k M
10 BP110 1p 110k M
10 LP120 1p 110k M
8 BP130 1p 120k M
I try to value items based on the RAW PED OBTAINABLE and not by market demand and supply
that absorbs the difference between that value and the trading balue.
caluclation is based on a Mtoken value of 0.5 PED that is coherent with 10 M token per 1 pill sold at 5 PED
that means if 10 M token are 5 ped (devastim 10mg hyperstim 10mg and such) 1 M token is 0.5 ped.
Here the thing become curious......
case 1. LB50 .... 48k Mtoken (24.000 Ped) sold at 30k (i purchased it and sold for same value,
on request i can give names but we all saw it advertised) means a P token is valued 6.000 Ped
for this specific weapon
Case 2. BC30 rifle. (out of stock, 1 P 26k M) i am sure a friend paid 24.000 for that.... 13.000 of M token
and the difference is tha value attrivbuted to market to that P token.... 11.000 ped
Case 3: LR 60 (been told recently traded for 55.000 Ped... 2 P token 70.000 M token that is 35.000
PED for the M and again 20.000 for 2 P (10.000 PED each one)
Case 3: (just hypotetic) BP110 LP120 (same cost) 55.000 as per Mtokens,,,, i am sure would NOT
sell for 66.000 PED ( that is the same token used to get the LB50 and the BC30....)
Case 4: BP 70 (MANUFACTURE COST) 2P and 90.000 Token : at the rates above it come out
45.000 + 20.000 = 65.000 PED (unsold at last live auctiona t 145.000).... the 80.000 PED OVER
manifacture cost are the rarity premium paid from demand and supply
case 5: LP40 2 P 45.000 M 20.000+22500 = 42.500 PED ... here premium is evebn BIger than
the one on BP 70, seems a Unicorn weapon that make u win even if u cant shot
Case 6: Hedoc mayhem adjusted i sold mine for 1600 PED.... 1P token 4000 M token
it is passing hand UNDER THE VALUE OF TOKEN REQUIRED.... 2000 ped of M and at least
based on teh Poor LB50 at 6000 .... (as you can see there are 25 ins tock no one exchange for it
was dropped in instance as told me the guy that traded it for a Sword of avout 1500 ped value
All the above was to infere the value of a Ptoken that in my very humble opinion has a consensus
of 10.000 PED and an M token that (evidence of Pills market ) is per se valued 0.5 ped
MA is many things but for sure is not Santa Claus..... if some items require more token it is because
for some reason i do not understand (i am a noob, just a number cruncher) are better
i am not winning a Ptoken, so its is just an exercise, but i would go for Lp100 or BP130
to exchange... in EU if ti cost mroe its generally better.
Market price is nothat thing, also in stock market the ACTUAL value of a stock has few to do
with company value.
i think that for many items in game actual value has nothing to to with real value.
it is JUST expression of supply and demand. sometime it overvalues, some undervalues.
poor LB50 is penalized, probabaly because of being melee.
This brings me directly to teh last conclusions (MA is not Santa and is not incoherent)
look efficiencty of Pistols in mayhem trader
BP70 92.5%
BC80 88%
LP100 84%
BP110 79.5%
lp120 65%
BP130 65.5%
can you spot it. ? i see something intersting well i see the PROOF that LOOTER+EFF are combined
being looter (roughly) HALF of level of the hunter...........
welll i am spoling already too much
let someone else go forward.....
lets say that over level 140 all weapons are the same
with that in view a high eff weapon is MORE useful at lower levels than at higher ones.....
due to (as in many other threads is stated) looter compesnate for it......
open to receive flames
marco
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