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Sheryo said:
Or exhange the rare token for 5000 peds at the vendor.
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this will never happen.
MA will not pay 5000 ped for a 0 ped token.
Only we players are idiot enough to do that ;)
 
DAMN i always think to the hunters and never to the hoarders.

i must be careful to avoid Ludwig axe in this answer :)

i did not consider that once sold can be re-sold, just the man with 100k Mtoken missin the rare

i need only to agree, better try my luck than support the "Greedastic Four" auction and forum activity

The monster sometimes is behind the gun and not in front of it
 
I agree with Mstur that the rare should be tradeable.
I see the additional problem as things are of p2p trades/agreements going wrong if you have to ask someone else to provide a service and please buy item x for me. Then I'll give you peds. Or with collateral being paid and the 'deal' then also failing.
It's MA's responsibility to at least try and reduce the potential for scams.
Reselling also seems to be a problem at the moment, ok. But this hasn't actually 'helped' at all, MA!
 
Some was "tradeable" in the past, just a few of them, lets wait and see what happens with FFA.
If stays, some are still "tradeable", if not, than loot it, or dont, but no tradeable rare tokens.
 
jetsina said:
I agree with Mstur that the rare should be tradeable.
I see the additional problem as things are of p2p trades/agreements going wrong if you have to ask someone else to provide a service and please buy item x for me. Then I'll give you peds. Or with collateral being paid and the 'deal' then also failing.
It's MA's responsibility to at least try and reduce the potential for scams.
Reselling also seems to be a problem at the moment, ok. But this hasn't actually 'helped' at all, MA!
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sorry, but the disadvantage that you mention is not really such a big thing.
If a rare token holder gets an item from the token trader and the other party doesnt hold his end of the deal, there is no loss for the rare token holder.
He/she still has the items which is perfectly possible to sell on auction or whatever.
No loss.
And if a token holder wants money up front, well, screw him. I've learned from day 1 never to give peds to anyone based on a promise.


But if you cater to re-sellers by making the tokens tradeable, we will eventually all lose except the resellers.

So, no, don't make the tradeable.
Let's for once not make this game entirely about who has the biggest wallet and can buy the most,
If you want something, work for it!
 
I certainly admire the sentiment of if you want something, work for it - far above pay to win ideology or mechanics.
When you say 'No loss', there is certainly the loss of their own choice of what to do or buy once they have bought an item that then might fail on the trade. Something like that azuro, or whatever?!

Oh, extra big smile to you because you are very high turnover - and could probably also profit from ways you simply prefer not to. I use the word admire again :)!
Also: what you have learnt is not necessarily the same for others, nor even agreed upon by others. Thus, I think it is contentious and part of MA's responsibility of what can (and does) occur on the platform.
 
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Msturlese said:
i am pretty sure that making Rare tradable would not iumpact game, you need to kill your 1000 hours anyway
from items we saw tha prior to price craze a Ptoken was valued 6000 ped ( sometime 8000)
i imagine that if really the drop rate was increased (so far we know only of Kiki drop due to discovery,
might be the only one or be 200 around, not all people brag on results , some are discrete
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Seriously?

Every drop of a rare token is announced. We know exactly how many has been dropped.


you are pretty sure making rare tokens tradeable would not impact the game?
I'm pretty damn sure it would. lol

wtf
 
i honestly like the new event system, dont see why there is no competition... high dps will win... you want to be @ the top then upgrade your selfe to more dps just like in any other mmo, dont blame the system or mindark for changes... blame your selfe for not understanding

“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.​

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Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”​


― Bruce Lee


they did restock the vendor very well , this way they where able to crush the controlled Item market , makes the prices drop down over time , this leads to more accessibility of items to every player

infact tokens in the box is briliant, that way they turn kinda tradeable and they boost up the avarge peds you get out of a box
people focus the bad ring but dont see the new mindforce amps, the rar tokens and the normal tokens ... i am shure we wont open any box for cheaper then it is right now if you ask me i rather try to loot a amp that boosts me into profit or try to get 100 tokens to convert them into pills then trying to go for a seasonal ring that drops like every 50000 boxes

overall the whole storry feels way more fair now + they managed to offer more for the $ and i am positiv that this will impact our economy into good

gj mindark
 
jetsina said:
I certainly admire the sentiment of if you want something, work for it - far above pay to win ideology or mechanics.
When you say 'No loss', there is certainly the loss of their own choice of what to do or buy once they have bought an item that then might fail on the trade. Something like that azuro, or whatever?!

Oh, extra big smile to you because you are very high turnover - and could probably also profit from ways you simply prefer not to. I use the word admire again :)!
Also: what you have learnt is not necessarily the same for others, nor even agreed upon by others. Thus, I think it is contentious and part of MA's responsibility of what can (and does) occur on the platform.
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Ok, in that case you're indeed fucked as token seller :ROFLMAO:

*edit*
PS, You know I'm far from being a high roller and I will probably never be able to get anything from the token trader myself, but I just require goals in this infinitely boring grinding game.
Without long term goals you go brain dead here!
 
There is plenty of people that generate a few tokens but have zero chance of ever getting enough to buy a vendor gun. There is a current pathway that allows these people to exchange tokens for pills to on sell.
Rare tokens should have a similar pathway in the unlikely event that a player loots one but will never be able to trade it in.
Maybe one rare could buy a bulk amount of pills, or 15mg/mod neuros or something like that.
 
LangeTobias said:
Every drop of a rare token is announced. We know exactly how many has been dropped.
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No, we dont know exactly how many, somebody looting it from box with website opener, that will never make it to the HOF board or EL.
 
Hego Damask said:
No, we dont know exactly how many, somebody looting it from box with website opener, that will never make it to the HOF board or EL.
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Why not? it's still a rare item that drops, it should be announced?
 
Yes, Katie, adding that a rare could buy a bulk amount of stuff with requiring a mass of tokens would be one suggestion - and easy to add on MA's side if they agreed.
Indeed, we don't know about rares from boxes opened via the website. Those are not announced - at least it has long been said that this is what people do to loot stuff 'quietly'!
 
Hego Damask said:
No, we dont know exactly how many, somebody looting it from box with website opener, that will never make it to the HOF board or EL.
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Rings opened that way, does make it to the hof board though.
 
LangeTobias said:
Rings opened that way, does make it to the hof board though.
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No, rings opened in website opener not makes into HOF board, it is a fact we (almost) all know.

But if you want evidence, see post here with photo about ring opened at website:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?threads/hw-2021-ring.284382/#post-3785802

Now go to EL and search the rare loot for halloween ring 2021, you wont see Sean Rocket Connors there, because it was from website, no HOF ingame, not made it into HOF board. It is same for all rings, not just seasonal. I would assume it is same for rare tokens too.

I guess it would make into hof board only if its the first, as it would give the discovery hof at login or when looted at website, depends when the system places it into your inventory, guess at login, based on Sophet pet's from the past.
 
I see people complaining gold is to easy. Check entropia tracker to see them hunting 24h/day. Seems legit...
 
Hego Damask said:
No, rings opened in website opener not makes into HOF board, it is a fact we (almost) all know.

But if you want evidence, see post here with photo about ring opened at website:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?threads/hw-2021-ring.284382/#post-3785802

Now go to EL and search the rare loot for halloween ring 2021, you wont see Sean Rocket Connors there, because it was from website, no HOF ingame, not made it into HOF board. It is same for all rings, not just seasonal. I would assume it is same for rare tokens too.

I guess it would make into hof board only if its the first, as it would give the discovery hof at login or when looted at website, depends when the system places it into your inventory, guess at login, based on Sophet pet's from the past.
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Strange, I could swear I saw my own ring a few years ago on the tracker after opening it on the website.
Oh well, that sucks if it doesnt show up because it was opened on the website...
 
Fanan said:
What if a rare token could be exchanged for xxxx mayhem tokens? Just an idea...
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I overlooked this - Ludvig is watching.....
Also a possible idea. I also hear stuff can be unrefined nowadays - was maybe a pp wanted that.
May or may not be an idea to be able to convert tokens up to a rare as well, but could be a balancing (and desirability) issue, I accept that for sure.
 
Would be nice if survival had 5-10 more stages potentially a teamversion that can be entered by those who cleared a set solo stage first.
Just dont fail the team survival at the death of one member (allow res chips / maybe have a total deathcounter allowance for team as a whole) and have for the team leader a rare token at the top stage of the survival (limited to 1 per mayhem and person).
It would be cool to have a challenging pathway as descibed above to work towards a rare token as opposed to just grind and hope for luck over others.
 
Since there are no secrets anymore :) … can anyone share an estimated time it takes to get through all the stages of survival? Thanks in advance!
 
Yeah I think we need a platinum chain that has a rare token at the end. Shouldn't have to 100% rely on the luck of lootius to ever get an item from the vendor due to no rare token drops.
 
Hijacker27 said:
Yeah I think we need a platinum chain that has a rare token at the end. Shouldn't have to 100% rely on the luck of lootius to ever get an item from the vendor due to no rare token drops.
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Sure, why not?
Let's give the lucky few ubers their guaranteed token.
And let the plebs just be dependent on luck.

Solid plan!
 
wizz said:
Sure, why not?
Let's give the lucky few ubers their guaranteed token.
And let the plebs just be dependent on luck.

Solid plan!
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Lucky few? Anyone with enough time and dedication could complete it. I finished gold in 3 days of grinding using L swords.
 
Hijacker27 said:
Lucky few? Anyone with enough time and dedication could complete it. I finished gold in 3 days of grinding using L swords.
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So, you suggest that everyone gets a RARE token then if it's so easy as you claim?

Well, if you're so dedicated and have so much time, go grind for that token! You can do it! ;)
 
wizz said:
So, you suggest that everyone gets a RARE token then if it's so easy as you claim?

Well, if you're so dedicated and have so much time, go grind for that token! You can do it! ;)
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obviously the chance for everyone to get a token is already in place by most tokens dropping randomly in the lower categories.
But if there was a team effort survival version where people could bust their ass of to achieve one token through skill / team skill and gear this would be a great addition for those who prefer team play to achieve goals in an online game instead of grinding 15 hours a day solo.
 
John B Knight said:
obviously the chance for everyone to get a token is already in place by most tokens dropping randomly in the lower categories.
But if there was a team effort survival version where people could bust their ass of to achieve one token through skill / team skill and gear this would be a great addition for those who prefer team play to achieve goals in an online game instead of grinding 15 hours a day solo.
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well then, again, I don't see ANY reason to reward a rare token for the lucky few ubers then.
Also, what's the need for that reward if you can easiliy obtain them in lower categories?

I do agree with you that there could be a nice incentive for maybe a platinum mission as you suggested. So I'm totally not against that at all.
But simply not a rare mayhem token.
 
Sorry JBK but that would lead to
1. "BOOST RUNS" to let someone go to top stage as some UBERST Uber team run a noob (WOW docet)
2. getting a "Rare" for the most firepower is the exact opposite meaning of this "reshuffle" of mayhem that is leading to level the field

personally speaking you 3x firepower than average ppl lead you to 4x more loot instances and 4x chances to loot.
can not support that idea of "get a rare token if you are strong"

i hate the different number of rares required to exchange for an item because i would prefer
1 rare for each weapon

who has 1 rare in inventory can not loot a sedond one
this way
a. if you dont exchange it because aim at higher Mtoken item some other ppl can loot
b. you are incentivated to exchange and drop into game more items.

as you can see i am not for a "Socialism in EU", but the more ppl has good weapons the more ped are cycled and better the loot ppl can become

if MA gains 1m Eur with actual cycle
if return are 2x better we will cyle 3x the amount or maybe 10x because more ppl flow in

and the solution is not a Swine.......is a A&P wep
 
fred5283 said:
Since there are no secrets anymore :) … can anyone share an estimated time it takes to get through all the stages of survival? Thanks in advance!
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Anyone??
 
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