When you pay the 10 ped access fee, it doesn't go to MA but to the loot-pool. MA/FPC only take a portion of the decay. So whatever changes made, it will come out of your loot.
I want to know if this is 100% true, i beleive it is. and i will base my arguement from it.
Lets try one more time.
"Rent" is not rent it is a maintenance fee, like your clothes. You take your clothes off you pay 2 pec. You put your clothes on you pay 2 pec. (how ever it works. I never pay attention)
Think of it this way. You BOUGHT a MOD Merc used it until it was totally decayed and then left it in your storage for months at a time. To use it again you would have to repair it. The repair cost is like the "rent". Now I don't like the fact that you leave your Mod Merc unimpaired. I think you should pay a fee to keep the Mod Merc. If you don't pay the fee it should be confiscated and sold for the amount in arrears your fees are.
I BOUGHT my apartments . I DO NOT "rent" them.
A Property is not like an normal item. Its value is totally determined by the players, As more and more players come up with ways to take your property away from owners that are not useing them, its like saying property values have become too high. And if Propertys Fee's do go into the loot pool and the loot pool is bad right now, then obviously this Luxury item needs some further looking into.
I do not agree with the OP completly but he does have some good points, i do not beleive MA should take the money from the sale, the sale should go to the owner of the property.
Its not rent its maintenance fee, a apartment is something you buy, if it was rent you wouldn't need to buy the deed.
I disagree with this completely, if what you say was implemented think about the people that suddenly cant log in for whatever reason, rl, computer messed up, whatever, all those rightfully owned deeds, some that can cost over 1k would be instantly lost to ma.
And tbh it would be a reason to sell your apartment asap causing alot less apartments being owned at all, so instead of it storing items and not being able to be entered, there will just be alot of empty apartments not being used for anything not even owned.
There is an issue where some players cannot no longer enter the game to manage their property's and anything dealing with changing the Property Law in EU should be concidered at a time down the road to allow these players to come back into the game. But what if they never return? We need to get these propertys back out to people, that can use them. To feed the loot pool at least.
And a forced sell will only transfer the value from one player to another. I am agenst MA from getting money from this sale. It has to be the player. And if they make more money from it great if not we found the true value of the property's again. It is the Fire-sell princible that was supposed to be the plan for america's houseing markets before they bailed out the banks.
I`d be up for a system that made apartments more accessible and appealing to more players. I would think in this world that an apartment should be something that every player should be getting into fairly soon after deciding to spend some time in EU. For the years I`ve been playing most never have one so in effect we have a huge homeless population in EU. Settling these players would maybe make them feel more a part of the world and give a better impression of the game and it`s inhabitants to new and perspective players.
As it is apartments are not that expensive but I think they could be cheaper to entice more to buy them. I think it`s kind of silly just to have them there as another "investment" opportunity. Investing has already put way too much out of reach of the everyday players and breeds complaints and resentment from many. The hangars too. Many go unused(not talking about currently as they are not functional atm). And what we have is people having to wait for flights and pilots trying to fill ships. If it was cheaper to fly and own I think it would be a much more robust business. MA did create only so many and the players have elevated them to such a worth. But it`s the speculative side of them that creates stagnation and inflation.
This pertains to many things in EU. I don`t think MA started out thinking so much stuff would become so expensive and out of reach of so many players. It would be nice to see some rebalancing. Sure some people won`t be happy because they would lose money but I think even more would be happy to see more and reachable possibilities in game and the result would be more participation.
With that said I own one apartment and could care less if it`s 48PED or 10PED a year if I only used it once. If it would help house all the homeless of EU and give us a better sense of community and stability I`m all for it!
A rebalencing of the property's market would be needed. I beleive that if MA was to start selling property once more now would help out the new players, and hopefully the loot pool. but prices need to be found via min bid auction. i do beleive prices have gone down. judging from some of the min bid autions that have happend so far i noticed yes prices have went down. but MA should not flood the market, and they are not. they are walking the line between finding cheeper prices, but also maintaining the investor's prices.
To just release a wave of new property's would piss off the people that paid too much for them. then again it could get the loot pool better off. but we cannot forget alot of players without property cant log in.
Another way to think of rents is as decay. I pay ten peds to access my apartment for thirty days. Each day it decays 0.33 peds. At the end of thirty days it has reached min TT and I need to repair it.
The "rent" on my apartments is usually paid for a full year, because I use them as storage. They are full of storage boxes not empty. If you want to go into my apartments and look at my storage boxes feel free.
I personally don't see what other use apartments and estates have.
"Rents" are a form of decay but it feeds the loot pool becouse it is a luxury item, pay your fee's and fix the loot pool. or hell see if there is any change. we got a problem with our loot pool now and a whole bunch of closed down shops and apartments. Do you see what i am seeing, is there a connection or just a coincidence?
I know I'm kinda dredging up an old topic but I would just like to add that with the coming of the new planets I would think this would make all the real estate plummet ,as the player pool will be moving onto the other planets, this will teach the hoarders a lesson as the price spirals to the floor..hehe
I forsee this also, and it should kick some people into gear to start getting their investments sold now, or risk losing alot more money. in a way they need to shortsell their investments now so they can buy more in the future. If they dont short sell they will lose out. and struggle to get the returns they were expecting. Or they can deposit the same amount and buy the new property's again to keep their investments at the price it is now.
I dont see these people doing this. So there ya go.
Economics from a ADHD, Non college Educated, zero oppertunity, OIF Veteran, Felon, from Tacoma WA. 27 years of age. oh yeah unemployable, cant forget to put that in.
