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A new look is coming (Short MA Teaser)

Sub-Zero said:
Do they even bother to look before they make a teaser?
@ 00:28 mark.

https://imgur.com/a/lsKMHdV

If this gets "missed" for a teaser video, can you imagine how many more stuff they gonna "miss" when we get this update?
I hope I'm wrong though, they did do the disclaimer "work in progress".
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there are feet missing from your screenshot, i think
 
Sulje said:
there are feet missing from your screenshot, i think
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Yes, in fact the missing feet were missing from the teaser video thus missing from my screenshot of said video. :p
 
Sub-Zero said:
Do they even bother to look before they make a teaser?
@ 00:28 mark.

https://imgur.com/a/lsKMHdV

If this gets "missed" for a teaser video, can you imagine how many more stuff they gonna "miss" when we get this update?
I hope I'm wrong though, they did do the disclaimer "work in progress".
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What do you expect ?
 
Sub-Zero said:
Do they even bother to look before they make a teaser?
@ 00:28 mark.

https://imgur.com/a/lsKMHdV

If this gets "missed" for a teaser video, can you imagine how many more stuff they gonna "miss" when we get this update?
I hope I'm wrong though, they did do the disclaimer "work in progress".
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I have to say, as per the disclaimer, this is early work in progress. There is a lot more to be done before this is game ready.

For many years players have asked us, time and time again to show off development "even when it isn't ready yet", so we are trying to show off more from the pipeline - that's what we are trying to do.
 
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Socrates|Mindark said:
I have to say, as per the disclaimer, this is early work in progress. There is a lot more to be done before this is game ready.

For many years players have asked us, time and time again to show off development "even when it isn't ready yet", so we are trying to show off more from the pipeline - that's what we are trying to do.
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Fair enough. But I think still even if its work in progress, such an obvious visual bug shouldn't have been missed/ or at very least not shown up in a teaser video. If there was more quality assurance made (if someone looked at the video at the avatars from top to bottom) they would've seen same thing I did.

I don't know if it's lack of funding/time or manpower, but it's bad to show stuff like that. It can de-hype / demotivate people to keep playing.

I do want the game to succeed I am heavily invested into the game and really want it to reach UE5 with its best possible quality.

I do like to see how things are progressing. Though I think some more care should be made before uploading a video, it may be my personal opinion, but I detest the AI slop format that has been used in few of them (heavy use on AI video animation etc).

That visual bug shouldn't have made into the video if there was some more quality assurance management being done before uploading it. I hope you guys can take this to heart and see it's coming from best intentions, pure constructive criticism.
 
Socrates|Mindark said:
I have to say, as per the disclaimer, this is early work in progress. There is a lot more to be done before this is game ready.

For many years players have asked us, time and time again to show off development "even when it isn't ready yet", so we are trying to show off more from the pipeline - that's what we are trying to do.
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The feet being missing isn’t an issue.
You showing us early content isn’t the issue.
The apparent complete lack of effort in quality control is the issue. A simple edit would have cut it prior to showing that and it would have taken literally 5 seconds of effort.

It’s not that the effort wasn’t applied, it’s that it appears that no one is even checking for things.
 
Venture Bros said:
The feet being missing isn’t an issue.
You showing us early content isn’t the issue.
The apparent complete lack of effort in quality control is the issue. A simple edit would have cut it prior to showing that and it would have taken literally 5 seconds of effort.

It’s not that the effort wasn’t applied, it’s that it appears that no one is even checking for things.
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Don't make me defend Mindark. This didn't need to be perfect. The final product only has to be. Least they're communicating, some.
 
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Socrates|Mindark said:
I have to say, as per the disclaimer, this is early work in progress. There is a lot more to be done before this is game ready.

For many years players have asked us, time and time again to show off development "even when it isn't ready yet", so we are trying to show off more from the pipeline - that's what we are trying to do.
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You can never win. They will never be happy no matter what you do 🤣 keep it up i certainly love these previews and getting to see whats to come.

It's literally an early preview, maby not even alpha state and people screaming like it's the end of the world that a foot is missing.

I've seen worse previews from big AAA devs yet nobody bats an eye.
 
I enjoy these videos for the comedy pieces that they are
'Let's show off our new character creation and new ai npcs' by literally using 1 avatar 1 hairstyle and then 7 different outfit renders?
Not to mention the 'before' has absolutely nothing to do with the 'and now'. Like what is the relevance of that VTOL?
When doing a 'this' vs 'that' comparison it is infinitely more effective to show them both at the same time in a side-by-side setup. Or if full screen is preferred, select 1 exact sequence and run through that 1 time in the old version and execute again exactly the same way in the new version. NVidia and AMD have enormous success with this style when showing gfx card elevated performance comparisons.
Showing off development as a teaser is a great idea but do it professionally and with some level of vision, purpose, and quality control, otherwise it likely does more harm than good
 
Funny the feet missing haha - but honestly keep these teasers coming please! - it has been super nice to get a lot more updates and these teaser the last 6 months. Please keep this up
 
there is nothing impressive or interesting about this teaser, however, teasers are always appreciated. Thank you.
 
Looks good, i dont have a fetish for extremities. So the missing feet doesnt bother me although i do have to agree it does showcase a lack of purposefullness that seems to be in everything these days.

Nobody seems to care about the products they produce as long as someone keeps buying.
 
Socrates|Mindark said:
I have to say, as per the disclaimer, this is early work in progress. There is a lot more to be done before this is game ready.

For many years players have asked us, time and time again to show off development "even when it isn't ready yet", so we are trying to show off more from the pipeline - that's what we are trying to do.
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You can't "live" in the noise - ignore 'them, and keep 'em coming! (y)
 
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DaisyColdFinger said:
You can't "live" in the noise - ignore 'em, and keep 'em coming! (y)
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It's like people are afraid to give any sort of criticism, because they fear demotivating them.

They need to uphold a certain standard imo, or the game will look like crap. It's important to let them know what we think, how else will they know what to improve? This type of post is very positive but it will make them think "we're just hating" over a foot (when in fact it's the principle that it got into the teaser in the first place). The intention of my post was no hate at all, just a "reminder" to take better care when uploading new teasers.

Just because they say work in progress doesn't really exclude any sort of quality check before uploading such a teaser imo. If they looked a bit more they'd realize oh, perhaps we should not show this missing feet in the teaser and hide it for now until we fix it, but it looks like they didn't see it or didn't care to hide it and to me that's a bad sign.

There's good from trying to set them to uphold a little more better quality assurance, it would look better for the game in the end we'll get better content. For me quality > quantity, wins every time.
 
Sub-Zero said:
It's like people are afraid to give any sort of criticism, because they fear demotivating them.

They need to uphold a certain standard imo, or the game will look like crap. It's important to let them know what we think, how else will they know what to improve? This type of post is very positive but it will make them think "we're just hating" over a foot (when in fact it's the principle that it got into the teaser in the first place). The intention of my post was no hate at all, just a "reminder" to take better care when uploading new teasers.

Just because they say work in progress doesn't really exclude any sort of quality check before uploading such a teaser imo. If they looked a bit more they'd realize oh, perhaps we should not show this missing feet in the teaser and hide it for now until we fix it, but it looks like they didn't see it or didn't care to hide it and to me that's a bad sign.

There's good from trying to set them to uphold a little more better quality assurance, it would look better for the game in the end we'll get better content. For me quality > quantity, wins every time.
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Yes teasers should look better then the end result, that's what other companies does. But also we don't have to jump on hysteria train for every little thing, who cares about missing feet from teaser.

I am more stressed out about ugly hof list to be honest, that already exists in game, and at the same time looking forward to fishing, hopefully bug free, and anti bot measurements in place, since it's going to be very expensive and tedious profession to do.
 
Sub-Zero said:
It's like people are afraid to give any sort of criticism, because they fear demotivating them.
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Its not that. MA improved lately. A lot.
But people who are working hard to make those improvement hear nothing but the same bitching and moaning (way beyond "criticism") like if nothing of what they do actually makes an impact. Why bother to make a difference then? Wouldnt you be demotivated with this?

And thats why players step up to aknowledge that there are those who appretiate that effort. Including me.
 
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ColonelBuckshot said:
You can never win. They will never be happy no matter what you do 🤣 keep it up i certainly love these previews and getting to see whats to come.

It's literally an early preview, maby not even alpha state and people screaming like it's the end of the world that a foot is missing.

I've seen worse previews from big AAA devs yet nobody bats an eye.
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Somebody joined the darkside?

People have a certain level of expectations that need to be met. We have higher expectations than the rest of society and their degradation of customer service because this is our escape from the enshittification of our lives and environments. I think there's a point where complaining won't happen but not if no one appears to be concerned with improving for the players. I don't know about you but for me the game has gotten away with way more than is acceptable. A little bit of effort goes a long ways.

Do I need to tell you that no one really cares much about the stuff they are working on - we only care about a better user experience. And that doesn't "APPEAR" to be of much concern. When they make a statement assuring us the game will play better instead of assuring us the game will look better I'm sure that will shut a lot of people up. But like I said we have higher expectations than normal jaded consumers.
 
Sulje said:
I am more stressed out about ugly hof list to be honest, that already exists in game
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Cant "stress" this enough.
Something should be done about that hideous design.
 
The Mind said:
Its not that. MA improved lately. A lot.
But people who are working hard to make those improvement hear nothing but the same bitching and moaning (way beyond "criticism") like if nothing of what they do actually makes an impact. Why bother to make a difference then? Wouldnt you be demotivated?

And thats why players step up to aknowledge that there are those who appretiate that effort. Including me.
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For sure there has been improvements lately, but also less care, too many improvements coming too fast before they are truly ready. The new UI change to Hof board, do you think that's acceptable to look like that? Slow loading (maybe can fix it), but obvious UI issues like soc name going over other UI, messy resizing logic. It's same for market value, if you open two items at once you'll have to resize the UI to cover half the screen in order to read the text it's all resizing and resizing to be able to read the UI properly, quite messy "rushed" updates.

Sulje said:
I am more stressed out about ugly hof list to be honest, that already exists in game
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Same. Messy UI, see above.
Sulje said:
and at the same time looking forward to fishing
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I'm also looking forward to it, I even have my old fishing rod gathering dust in my apartment that I obtained from a combibo as a noob (been wanting long time to fish in Entropia).
Sulje said:
But also we don't have to jump on hysteria train for every little thing, who cares about missing feet from teaser.
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I don't think I am, first are the AI slop teasers which look like crap as I'm sure you would agree. Is about principle of taking bit more care before "giving the final go" to release stuff. They seem to lack any sort of quality management assurance control, perfect example is the new hof board. Messy game does this game no favors...

I am happy they are trying to make it better though and do appreciate the effort, just need a bit more care is all.
 
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