abuse by pirate using summonfucntion

[aia]

aww people, you know space is completely safe if you just *cough-log-off-and fly with Normandie right?

no biggy

Just as a guess (not knowing the SI of them both), I think Normandie is safer to travel with than Starfinder XXXII


You came with a good idea there though: If you're summoned to a ship and you have stackables on you, log out (and send support ticket telling you got a rogue summon and want to be relocated). At least if you can't grab the teleporter to space station immediately.

As i said before, they fly out with the starfinder32, it having only an RK5 click of life, and just blow it up to immediately start shooting people.

One way to slow this down is, if you're on the guestlist, sneak aboard and repair it up. I wonder when they by mistake will summon 20 ppl with RK-20:s (and carrying no stackables)

 

[mitsuwa]

Just as a guess (not knowing the SI of them both), I think Normandie is safer to travel with than Starfinder XXXII


You came with a good idea there though: If you're summoned to a ship and you have stackables on you, log out (and send support ticket telling you got a rogue summon and want to be relocated). At least if you can't grab the teleporter to space station immediately.



One way to slow this down is, if you're on the guestlist, sneak aboard and repair it up. I wonder when they by mistake will summon 20 ppl with RK-20:s (and carrying no stackables)

thats actually a really good idea XD
cant get rid of them, can't out damage them, its perfect

 

[Audrey Cheerful]

thats actually a really good idea XD
cant get rid of them, can't out damage them, its perfect

Can't they remove people from the guest list and eject them into space?

 

[mitsuwa]

Can't they remove people from the guest list and eject them into space?

Nope, that was removed. Used to you could even remove yourself and would be ejected, but i've had people remove me while i was on a ship several times, and i was never ejected. They took that out when they made it possible to make ships public.

 

[starcollector]

aww people, you know space is completely safe if you just *cough-log-off-and fly with Normandie right?

no biggy

We pay a fee for safty transport isn't it...Vip warp is 30 ped...
Tp down from CP/FOMA is 7 ped fee....after a mining run Tp down is 100% safe after paying a fee I don't see the reason after paying a fee to MS owners for safty transport they can not guarantee that...and log-off is only option after I payed a fee of 30 ped...

 

[Audrey Cheerful]

Nope, that was removed. Used to you could even remove yourself and would be ejected, but i've had people remove me while i was on a ship several times, and i was never ejected. They took that out when they made it possible to make ships public.

Thanks! In that case the idea is perfect! A group of people should wait for a "pirate" summon with RK-20s and a ton of wire.

 

[JohnCapital]

aww people, you know space is completely safe if you just *cough-log-off-and fly with Normandie right?

no biggy

Dude, seriously you are NOT helping.

Do you REALLY think this tactic you guys are doing is ok? REALLY?

 

[dr3w]

Dude, seriously you are NOT helping.

Do you REALLY think this tactic you guys are doing is ok? REALLY?

Well, they actually doing OK.

More such activity from them, more support cases against them - less lifetime for such lowlife like they are.

So I think, they on right path.

 

[Barbylicious]

awww how cute.

The community ruins the gameplay of pirates, laughing at us while they log off to save loot.
The pirates ruins the gameplay of community, laughing at them while they accidently press accept.

Even it out..


I personally do not agree with spamming the summon ability.. A random summon now and then doesn't seem very harmfull to me, people have their own brain to decide wether they wish to accept or not. could be a fun free space adventure!

Since you are here to let us all know you think what is happening is ok, I hope you are willing to take the permaban with all your buddies also.

By the way, I've already seen your cheating in videos. I expected nothing less from you. Let's just hope this is the last time I have to read your bullshit OR see you in space.

 

[K_rupT]

If this keeps up , I would like a question asked to mindark or even Kim.calypso during an interview

How does it feel that you let a bunch of pirate exploiters destroy the one and only rce MMORPG game in existance ?

And now that you aren't earning any income from it . Have you put your application in for McDonald's yet ?

 

[Fronske]

I have nothing against pirates who play this game fair, but this is obvious a tactict that harasses ppl. What bothers me most is that he does it over and over again. Clearly interfearing with ppls gameplay. I really hope he gets a permaban and the pathfinder will be confiscated by MA. Just to put a little bit of preasure, I will not log in for a couple of days, I hope this way it opens their eyes that this kind of actions really harms the game.

 

[Strangelove]

"You were removed from the guest list of the Vega Class Privateer managed by Windy."

Got this msg some sec ago

It's prolly full....

 

[Yquem]

hello,

my wife was standing at auction at calypso when she suddenly saw message "you are being added to the guestlist of privateer by windy"
windy is not on her fl nor did she ever accept or requested to be added to the guestlist

i know windy is an known pirate so i told her to clean inventory and made supportcase,since i was sure an summon was on the way,
and surely she just got the summonmessage

this is an dirty trick by an pirate abusing the summonsystem,please if he did that to more players,also make an supportcase to get him banned,since financial repercussions is the only thing that will work for these guys

ma need to either punish them hard,or make it possible to remove 1 self from an guestlist

We need to know who is shooting from quads. The should get permanent ban too as it isa group work.

 

[Farmer Smurf]

Some more thoughts on this subject.

MA if you even care to fix this issue (I have little faith MA cares). But if you do...maybe a 10 sec pop up window like you get when teleporting, would give you time to cancel if you want, unless you stick the second confirm button right under the first one for a double misclick.

But at the end of the day, this is not the pirates fault really. Its more Mindarks fault for building this lootable pvp system, which causes greedy and immature players, to turn their destructive powers inwards against game and community.

No wait its not even thier fault really...Its our fault, every single one of us that willingly choose to deposit, after MA allowed thieves to pursue us via combat. Everyone of us that continues to deposit even knowing long time scamers of many years, have been allowed to upgrade to top end mother ships, to further harass, scam, and "pirate" our communities PED.

With every deposit we make, we send a message to MA that "everything is ok, and I am happy to be here"
I for one am NOT happy, I was happy for many years. But being forced to sit by and watch as the game I loved is destroyed and made a unpleasant, and unsafe place to play by known scammers, thieves, harassers, and all around "punks". Is simply getting to be to much to accept.

I see a lot of people saying they will stop depositing over this, im so sick of it I hardly log in anymore, unless its to fly the mothership, in an attempt to assist honest people to safely enjoy our universe, but honestly I shouldn't have to do your job MA, you should be keeping your customers safe, not creating ways for them to be robbed, harassed, time delayed, or otherwise "feed them to the punks".

When customers feel like they are second class, to thieves. Why, would we continue to play, or worse let our $ deposits fuel such system of destruction to us, our community, and the game we loved?

I personally have sold all my clds before this latest pirate atrocity, but I believe this is my last straw, with patience for a company that supports harassment, scamming, and theft.

Unless MA stops allowing punks to steal from honest people, you wont see me making another deposit, only withdraws. and I will focus on making many of those, I can do it if I apply myself. If all MA wants is greedy leeches, fine I'll go for their throat. Because they allow everyone to go for mine.

 

[JohnCapital]

But at the end of the day, this is not the pirates fault really. Its more Mindarks fault for building this lootable pvp system

I'm trying to find the most polite way to disagree with you.

You're the kind of guy that blames.... No, I can't go there, due to forum rule 3.6 - Real-world Controversial Discussion. I'll just say that the tool is almost NEVER the problem. the operator is.

 

[Farmer Smurf]

I would agree with you except...

When you go to a party and the music sucks, and the food is stale..you blame the host

when you go to a casino, and the drinks are expensive, girls ugly, and the tables rigged. you blame the owners.

When you go to any Service industry, and your not happy with the service, you blame the owners operators, not your wife for bringing you to the crappy restaurant or whatever service they provide..

At the start, and the end of it all..This GAME provides a service, to paying customers. When the service is no longer, safe or enjoyable. directly because of a new system that was built and introduced by the game developers...

Yeah I think its fair to blame them for it, I sure as hell didn't build the player against player conflict between the community and the thieves...MA did that.

Edit: as you say its not the tools fault (crye engine 2)..its the operators fault (the developers) after all they are the ones that made a willing choice to allow thieves to pursue us customers via combat (and exploits)

 

[jetsina]

So, how much does MA need to fix, apart from banning people and returning any stuff looted?
List of bad system implementations/omissions - here we go:

1: should not be possible for ship owner to add players without approval
2: players should be able to remove themselves from a ship GL without being on the ship (via click on map 'H'?)
3: summon message is of wrong type and pos - should not just appear on screen and not in the position it does
4: numerous summons can be sent in quick succession
5: players should be able to select which ships they belong to may summon them (tickbox list?)
6: players with lootables should be warned of the situation with a separately placed box
7: if looted, a player is neither informed at all, nor told how much has been lost

As it is now, ANY player can be summoned completely by surprise (or expects a summon and gets an unwanted one overlaid). It would be bad enough in a non-RCE, but it's even worse here.

Given the list above, I would actually expect that players could be thrown off the ship into lootable pvp while the ship is just on the edge in safety. As it stands, does the ship actually have to go out into pvp and take a couple of hits in order to eject passengers for killing? I'd be almost surprised at a yes answer to this, but I'm assuming that is what happens....

The fastest solution is bans and returning of loots. MA should have the times of these events easily enough. MA must respond quickly in my opinion - it is already slow to assume we can wait until Monday... Tuesday... for a statement!

 

[Lorthis]

as you say its not the tools fault (crye engine 2)..its the operators fault (the developers) after all they are the ones that made a willing choice to allow thieves to pursue us customers via combat (and exploits)

No, exploits are not allowed, according to the EULA.

 

[Farmer Smurf]

No, exploits are not allowed, according to the EULA.

but exploits ARE allowed, according to what we see happen in game every day....

 

[.Stagger]

Edit: as you say its not the tools fault (crye engine 2)..its the operators fault (the developers) after all they are the ones that made a willing choice to allow thieves to pursue us customers via combat (and exploits)

i believe you just made a great display of your brain functionality with this comment

 

[JohnCapital]

Edit: as you say its not the tools fault (crye engine 2)..its the operators fault (the players) after all they are the ones that made a willing choice to cheat and exploit, knowing that it's impossible to create a gaming system that's 100% impossible to exploit..

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Strangelove]

I'm trying to find the most polite way to disagree with you.

You're the kind of guy that blames.... No, I can't go there, due to forum rule 3.6 - Real-world Controversial Discussion. I'll just say that the tool is almost NEVER the problem. the operator is.

Since he can put together millions of lines of code with no bugs and then predict exactly how thousands of ppl will use that software in every instance, I was going to offer him a coding job with unlimited salary and benefits.....

That said, I hope MA gets out the permaban hammer, disbands Nebula Virus and confiscates the Starfinder XXXII.

 

[voom]

Oh good. I was looking for a reason not to log in to EU for a while.

Looks like I've got one :/

Sorry for peoples losses and I expect this will be considered harassment, deception and exploitation of the playerbase.

I look forward to seeing some new items to bid on in auction soon.

 

[Farmer Smurf]

Fixed it for ya. Edit: as you say its not the tools fault (crye engine 2)..its the operators fault (the players) after all they are the ones that made a willing choice to cheat and exploit, knowing that it's impossible to create a gaming system that's 100% impossible to exploit..

that's is my point exactly, we the players the miners, hunters, explorers, traders, adventurers, sweaters, etc. played for many many years, with out having packs of roving thieves( allowed by purposefully built game mechanics) to aggressively remove us from our PED.

Sure its impossible to build a 100% exploit proof game system. Most players I think understand and except this. and there will always be abusers and cheats in any system.

The problem is when the owners of the game, design MORE ways for the thieves, abusers and cheats to harm the players. sure an exploit or a scam is going to happen...but for the developers to on purpose build a system of travel, designed so every participant is subjected to attacks, theft, and harassment, at the hands of thugs, pirates, thieves and cheats..that is when I take issue.

Its not that the "bad" guys exist, its that MA created them a playground to play in, and populated it with us normal players.

If everyday for 5 years, you played cards at bills house. Then one day while your sitting at the table, a guy hits you in the back of the head, and steals your wallet. Bill says yeah from now on this is an aggressive house, where you will be robbed if you come play...why would you return to bills house?

and why would you not blame bill, for creating a hostile environment, I think the more you enjoyed playing cards at bills, the more it would aggravate you, now that you can no longer enjoy the card game. obviously Bill works at MA, because all he cares about is getting your wallet, not providing you a fun safe place to play cards.

 

[JohnCapital]

{long reply}

I'll just say we disagree about who to blame and stop here.

 

[narfi]

I have nothing against pirates who play this game fair, but this is obvious a tactict that harasses ppl. What bothers me most is that he does it over and over again. Clearly interfearing with ppls gameplay. I really hope he gets a permaban and the pathfinder will be confiscated by MA. Just to put a little bit of preasure, I will not log in for a couple of days, I hope this way it opens their eyes that this kind of actions really harms the game.

He is obviously daring MA to ban him, the question is will they meet the challenge or wuss out?

 

[Farmer Smurf]

I'll just say we disagree about who to blame and stop here.

Well you certainly wouldn't blame the hand that feeds you, and mostly I just blame myself for continuing to support a hostile virtual world with my deposits.

 

[JohnCapital]

Well you certainly wouldn't blame the hand that feeds you

I fail to see how I would blame my RL job for this?

Or are you under the mistaken impression that I make my money here in this Universe?

 

[Farmer Smurf]

Or are you under the mistaken impression that I make my money here in this Universe?

Most people don't make money in this universe, which is just another reason why its aggravating that MA allows thieves to attack you for what is yours.

 

[dr3w]

Well you certainly wouldn't blame the hand that feeds you, and mostly I just blame myself for continuing to support a hostile virtual world with my deposits.

Sorry, what you should do (and any others), instead of writing walls of text - write support cases.

And yes, I know, MA will do.

What they not do, - they not reading PCF - since it's not their centralized support case system. It's just forum, one of many. If Kim appears here -well, he is like Santa Clause for me, actually.

And I was working in support IRL (game with insane amount of DAU), and I know how support works. I was never reading forums, it's impossible to read badly written thousands walls of texts, whinings, and such. I was used only my CSC.

Write. Support. Cases.