Adj V1 vs Calypso mobs - Huntings results

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fresq in goblin +5b with ek26 & a fapper with fap50 on a regen mob??
Gremlin + 5b too high decay?
 

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Hunting run #5

Time: today 13.01.2010
Location: Amethera - TI
Mob: Frescoquda young-guardian
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: ek-2600 + socmate faper
Ammo: 5M (500 PED)


...in progres
 

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83.8 blp sniper hit
76.3 ranged blp dmg

8.4 HA
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Hunting run #5

Time: today 13.01.2010 ~18:45-19:50 MA time
Location: Amethera - TI
Mob: Frescoquda young-guardian
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: ek-2600 + socmate with SK-20
Ammo: 5M (500 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 500 PED + 8,85 armor + 12,03 SK-20 + 1,08 ek-2600 + 37.43 Adj V1 = 559,39 PED

total return TT: 442,49 PED (2 globals)

all items with MU 100-105% be TTed; TTed all

total +/-: 442,49 - 559,39 = -116,9 PED


comment: another lose hunt :( ;) ...loots without items with better MU, hmmm.


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Results after 5 rounds:
total burn in project: 2445,59 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 1987,44 PED
total balance in project: -458,15 PED
 

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Well, just some stats for you. At your level, your Adj V1 does 54.4 damage/second at the cost of 2.7 dmg/pec. For comparison, using an lp485 apis + dante (with markup), I get 59.4 damage/second and 2.76 dmg/pec.

So even a level 32 noob can get more damage out of a gun for cheaper :D
Are you really criticizing him for doing 5 less dmg/sec than you with 0.06 less eco, when he has actually invested money in a gun that he probably paid no more than 4k for when he bought it, and has by now made atleast 3x that amount in the gun's value?
 

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Are you really criticizing him for doing 5 less dmg/sec than you with 0.06 less eco, when he has actually invested money in a gun that he probably paid no more than 4k for when he bought it, and has by now made atleast 3x that amount in the gun's value?

And lost 280K PED using it?

Just sayin
 

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I lose this amount not on hunting only... this is general lose @hunting (I use few types (lasers and blps, L and unL) of weapons 'I have 10k in rifle and 6k in pistol skill) @mining, @some crafting, @some trading (never resell, own sold only) :)
 

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sell the fap!!! get a sk20 or ur125 godammit :p and use the goblin +5b on ambu aswell.. Im using gnome +5b on ambu and I dont fap at all except for an odd provider when I feel extra tilted :D... if you want bigger ambu and a tax free area you should do a minor tp jump S-E from fort zeus.. youngs-dominants there with mostly mature-providers... great place for ambu..

and good luck! when I get my weekly 16k hof from a ambu young Im gonna buy an adj v1 aswell... just so I never need to bother about amps again lol
 

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Hunting run #6

Time: today 14.01.2010 ~15:20-16:50 MA time
Location: Amethera - TI
Mob: Frescoquda young-guardian
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 5M (500 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 500 PED + 11,46 armor + 20,01 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 36.87 Adj V1 = 568,34 PED

total return TT: 418,78 PED + 63,54 (ESI MU) = 482,32 PED (2 globals)

all items with MU 100-105% be sold to other player in TT value.

total +/-: 482,32 - 568,34 = -86,02 PED


comment: ...and another lose hunt :( ..., hmmm.


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Results after 6 rounds:
total burn in project: 3013,93 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 2469,76 PED
total balance in project: -544,17 PED


:scratch2:
 
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Hunting run #7

Time: today 14.01.2010 ~18:20-19:30 MA time
Location: Amethera - TI
Mob: Frescoquda young-guardian
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 4M (400 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 400 PED + 8,45 armor + 16,27 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 29,91 Adj V1 = 454,63 PED

total return TT: 285,29 PED (2 globals)

all items with MU 100-105% be sold to other player in TT value, sold all @TT

total +/-: 285,29 - 454,63 = -169,34 PED


comment: all loots without good MU items :/


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Results after 7 rounds:
total burn in project: 3468,56,93 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 2755,05 PED
total balance in project: -713,51 PED


:scratch2::scratch2::(
 

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Hunting run #6

Time: today 14.01.2010 ~15:20-16:50 MA time
Location: Amethera - TI
Mob: Frescoquda young-guardian
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 5M (500 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 500 PED + 11,46 armor + 20,01 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 36.87 Adj V1 = 568,34 PED

total return TT: 418,78 PED + 63,54 (ESI MU) = 482,32 PED (2 globals)

all items with MU 100-105% be sold to other player in TT value.

total +/-: 482,32 - 568,34 = -86,02 PED


comment: ...and another lose hunt :( ..., hmmm.


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Results after 6 rounds:
total burn in project: 3013,93 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 2469,76 PED
total balance in project: -544,17 PED


:scratch2:

6 rounds is nothing. 3k peds cycled is also nothing... I do that in 2-3 days and Im just an mid lvl hunter.. well I wanna call myself that instead of a noobhunter :p and also remember that you will profit on other players in the long run.. not MA/FPC... they want you to lose money... so you need to sell those 105% to make as much as possible.. therefor you should have atleast 5000 peds on that ped card.. so you can afford the bad runs..

in poker its almost an unwritten law that you should have atleast 100 buyins.. so if you imply same thing here it would mean a bankroll of 50000 peds. MINIMUM :)

but there not that many who actually do that here.. some of the ubers have these kinda bankrolls when it comes to hunting.

hope you dont give up and gl.
 

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You sugest EU is casino, and hunting is poker ? :) cool...

btw. you know how many ped i lose, burn (not in this projest of course) and... ^*%^

Hunting run #8 (small test hunt with other weapon)


Time: today 14.01.2010 few minutes ago
Location: Amethera - TI
Mob: Frescoquda young-provi
Weapon: HL12(L) + A104
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 1,2M (120 PED)

total cost (+MU): 168,98 PED
total return TT: 70,43 PED
total +/-: -98.55 PED

comment: THIS IS NOT WEAPON CASE... Special settings from MA for my avatar <- I think that. ...same chances for all, ..dynamics... n/c lol. GREAT ! :scratch2:


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Results after 8 rounds:
total burn in project: 3637,54 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 2825,48 PED
total balance in project: -812,06 PED
 
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Try using a full hl11 + A104/105 on fresco. Let's see how that goes.
 

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You sugest EU is casino, and hunting is poker ? :) cool[/COLOR]

no, but I compair it with poker because I play poker for a living.. theres is alot of elements that are similar to hunting/mining and crafting aswell I guess (not a experienced crafter)


every hunting run is a buyin... if that buying is 500 ped then I would like atleast 5000 peds (alot more if I would be hardcore) on the pedcard because I know that theres ups and downs all the time.. and I also know that luck always even out in the longhaul.. just like in poker... and if you continue to lose money then theres usually something wrong about your playstyle (hunting with the wrong weapon against wrong mob/playing the wrong cards agains the wrong player) just an example..

but I know that the adjv1 is good.. and specially at your lvl.. so keep it up and try to break even... even if you have to sell those 105% hides to resellers every time you finish a hunt... 5 peds of every 100 peds is good for your pedcard in the long run..

to break even means free skills... and when luck stikes and gives you a hof you will be on the profit... then break even until the next hof and so on... same in poker kinda.. you play tight until you hit that set on the flop and go all in... you win a big pot and then you keep playing tight until the next good hand.. that way you will build your bankroll...

you have a really good weapon (cards) so breaking even should not be that hard..
 
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Hunting run #9 (small hunt for last 80 PED)

Time: today 15.01.2010 11:00 - 11:22 MA time
Location: Amethera - Nea's Place
Mob: Ambulimax young-mature
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 0,8072M (80,72 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 80,72 PED + 0,32 armor + 0,00 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 6,70 Adj V1 = 87,74 PED

total return TT: 245,63 PED (2 globals)

total +/-: 245,63 - 87,74 = 157,89 PED :yay:


comment: sweeeeet, but... ehh n/c :scratch2:


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Results after 9 rounds:
total burn in project: 3725,28 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 3071,11 PED
total balance in project: -654,17 PED

yea this is dynamics...
 

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Hunting run #10 (next small experiment hunt)

comment for this experiment:
All loots from previous hunting go to personal storage
and deposit $10 (96,50PED) for next hunting.

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Time: today 15.01.2010 11:47 - 12:10 MA time
Location: Amethera - Nea's Place
Mob: Ambulimax young-mature
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 0,9650M (96,50 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 96,50 PED + 0,56 armor + 0,10 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 7,92 Adj V1 = 105,08 PED

total return TT: 53,37 PED (without global)

total +/-: 53,37 - 105,08 = -51,71 PED

comment: What judge you about it?


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Results after 10 rounds:
total burn in project: 3830,36 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 3124,48 PED
total balance in project: -705,88 PED
 

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Try using a full hl11 + A104/105 on fresco. Let's see how that goes.

Ya, we've seen a multitude of "try this" suggestions...
I would be bankrupt if I tried every hunting setup suggested on EF.

There is really only one explanation that's a good fit for the terrible returns documented here.

Avatar based returns.
 

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Hunting run #11 (and next small experiment hunt for rest peds)

Time: today 15.01.2010 15:00 - 15:21 MA time
Location: Amethera - Nea's Place
Mob: Ambulimax young-mature
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 0,99840M (99,84 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 99,84 PED + 0,52 armor + 0,21 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 7,27 Adj V1 = 107,84 PED

total return TT: 47,21 PED (without global)

total +/-: 47,21 - 107,84 = -60,63 PED

comment: n/c


Results after 11 rounds:
total burn in project: 3938,2 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 3171,69 PED
total balance in project: -766,51 PED
 

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You done just about every tweek except the one Das pointed out to you.

I would explore the armor options for the maturity(ies) of mobs you want to kill (in this case fresco). Gob 5b don't seem good to me for this. If you tweek it a bit with some better armor you probably will do 2 things. Shoot more often and fap less. Actually 3 things .. more shots/kills per hour = more skills per hour, so in other words more effcient time usage.

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Even if you try a change and spend lets say 1 to 3 peds less of Defense decay (armor/fap/plates) and your doing 1 to 3 peds per round you can * that by how many hunts a day you do and * 7 and figure out how much ped you would save per week... sorry if I sound bossy but that is part of just not overpaying to hunt. Way it looks right now you can still tweek a bit. by the way if serum is as cheap as its stated on entropedia thats what I would be using on them if not at least grem..

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Hunting run #10 (next small experiment hunt)

comment for this experiment:
All loots from previous hunting go to personal storage
and deposit $10 (96,50PED) for next hunting.

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Time: today 15.01.2010 11:47 - 12:10 MA time
Location: Amethera - Nea's Place
Mob: Ambulimax young-mature
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Goblin + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 0,9650M (96,50 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 96,50 PED + 0,56 armor + 0,10 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 7,92 Adj V1 = 105,08 PED

total return TT: 53,37 PED (without global)

total +/-: 53,37 - 105,08 = -51,71 PED

comment: What judge you about it?


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Results after 10 rounds:
total burn in project: 3830,36 PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 3124,48 PED
total balance in project: -705,88 PED

you should try to deposit less often, i'm sure it would help
 

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no need ppl for advices to mr. XII cose he doesn't care. I have spent almost 3 years trying to show him how to hunt properly...still nothing. Absolutely nothing, he plays like 6 yo kid with a 200hp avatar whos dad has said "here, take these peds, go, hunt now my son, enjoy".

He so hard believes in dumb conspiracy theories, that he doesn't believe in anything like "eco, prober armor and gun, etc"... I'm still asking myself "so why is he still playing :scratch2: ?...a miracle ? wtf is a mirlace ? do you believe in miracles like 100k ped hunting hof ?"

What can we see here ?

Pointless minimal deposits.
Almost non-existant hunting budget...
He's got "uber" gun and good skills...but he burns less peds/day than h400/p5a hunter + I sign under everything what STYRM wrote. It's soo focking true, unfortunatelly or more likely...probably...XII doesn't understand this. Well...I wish all the best in this project my soc m8, cose you will need a hell of a lot of luck...yes:silly2: luck...cose smth strange occured and Your brain vanished:p

my 2 pecs:smoke: You know I like you, just wanted to be honest and save You and vievers from unnecessary "Advice-posts" .
 

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Hunting run #12 CP Mission (other weapon first)


Time: today 18.01.2010 18:35 - 19:52 MA time
Location: Crystal Palace - Bio 1
Mob: Aurli
Weapon: GeoTrek LP485 Apis (L) + Fi/Ra/Co Beast
Armor: Nemesis + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L)
Ammo: 2,715M (271,5 PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 271,5 PED + 30,84 armor + 10,39 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 76,23 (GeoTrek LP485 Apis (L)+MU) + 42,82 (Fi/Ra/Co Beast) = 431,78 PED

total return TT: 278,98 PED (without global)

total +/-: 278,98 - 431,78 = -152,8 PED


comment: n/c








Hunting run #13 CP Mission (few hunts with ADJ V1 from rest ammo with return at run)


Time: today 18.01.2010 20:00 - 23:00 MA time
Location: Crystal Palace - Bio 1
Mob: Aurli
Weapon: Adj V1
Armor: Nemesis + 5b plates
Fap: UR125(L) + ek2600
Ammo: 1# 1,0M (100PED); 2# 2,08M (208PED); 3# 2,13M (213PED); 4# 2,3759M (237,59PED); 5# 1,8357M (183,57PED); 6# 1,045M (104,5PED)

total cost (ammo+decay): 1047,38 PED ammo + 74,7 PED armor + 25,08 UR125(L, TT+MU) + 0,98 ek2600 + 79,82 Adj V1 = 1227,9PED

total return TT: 1# 47,84PED + 2# 233,80PED + 3# 259,81PED + 4# 205,36PED + 5# 137,92PED + 6# 73,99PED = 958,72PED (from all the hunts: 3 globals)

total +/-: 958,72 - 1227,9 = -269,18PED


comment: yea, very much items in loots with excellent MU, that same as in other charitable threads lol not for dog sausage, gl for naives for next few days of hunting lol


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Results after 13 rounds:
total burn in project: 5597,88PED
total back with MU (>105%) in project: 4409,39PED
total balance in project: -1188,49 PED
 
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This is for me, MA? did this have me to play on the set of teeths?

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really very funny...
it avoided me unfortunately....


Grats to "lucker"
I do not have anything for the player...
but I am interesting how many PEDs he burnt in this day on CP.
 

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Move to sweden... we get all loot.
 

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Much more than you do per week :)

generally or in this project?

I conjecture that what you do not know you write.


and sorry if I have ave.50% back - how long time can that? 5-10 years? I restrain to the burn of PEDs because I lose a lot. otherwise the matter was if I lost less or earned. I conjecture that the colleague had the good back...
 

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This is for me, MA? did this have me to play on the set of teeths?

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really very funny...
it avoided me unfortunately....


Grats to "lucker"
I do not have anything for the player...
but I am interesting how many PEDs he burnt in this day on CP.

You're whining in this thread too?
 

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generally or in this project?

I conjecture that what you do not know you write.


and sorry if I have ave.50% back - how long time can that? 5-10 years? I restrain to the burn of PEDs because I lose a lot. otherwise the matter was if I lost less or earned. I conjecture that the colleague had the good back...

Your return rates would be higher if you followed our advice, and since you'd be saving a lot of PED, you would also be able to turn over more PED per week.
 

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I know duo and how he hunts so reading your blog here and seeing the meager ped turnover you have it makes me laugh that you even compare yourself to him. I assure you that he turns over a significantly higher amount of per than you per week.
 
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