All auction bids are final? 60k bid in 1xx p balancing.

Somebody has to supervise things even if it's RCE, i'd rather MA doing it then nobody.
Honestly I'm so surprised they haven't jumped on this £$$$.

I mean they used to charge 1k ped if you tted your expensive gun before protection came in.

Why can't they do same for transactions on auction with a fee for reversing (their fee) and a compensation fee % to seller as well as their auction fees paid.
 
MindArk could fix this problem so easy to prevent future mistakes.
Just implement a feature in auction house, when a bid is made by mistake and the value exceeds average MU on that item or it's some substantial high value like in this case.
A warning window should popup with LARGE RED LETTER, and you had to triple confirm it before you could actually bid and buy the item.
Or on a high value bid you had to do some kind of captcha to prevent this kind of situations.

it´s 2024 like most already told above, it´s not that hard to make it safer to prevent this kind of nonsenses
And this could work both ways not just on high bids, could also work when by mistake put your item for buyout and you miss a zero for example instant selling an item that could worth 100k ped MU for 10k ped.

System should detect that the value is below all time lows average sells on that item, and again window popup with big capital red letters and you had to triple check it or do some kind of captcha before you could actually list the item for sale.


@Fiona Madonna , @My|MindArk, @Ludvig|MindArk

Regards, to all, best of luck.
Lumar
 
But could you whole heartedly say that you'd been okay with desicion that MA does not get involved with return if you'd made the mistake and didn't get your money back.
in a case of scam or idk wrongdoing MA can ask u to go to police and find justice there, MA is not police, so that means they cannot see all hidden possible or not possible outside game discussion or variables that's why in most of the cases they just say final trade is final

i m questioning here the way of choosing to get involved and from my point of view if one side refuses to cooperate, final trade is final, cause who can decide if was or not a mistake?

i m questioning the proceedings, who is the judge and the police here, based on what this judge and police decides that this guy did a mistake or not?

yes if was made a mistake i agree that this mistake should be fixed, if possible, but can u tell that? i sure cannot 100%

If it had come to the need to involve authorities, the argument would have been settled in a place where none of anyone's opinions here matter. I merely mentioned that in this country, provisions for such cases do exist. I am not arguing on either side.
try to convince me u did a mistake, hypothetically, make me believe using logic and proves and for every proof u bring try to visualize me saying ..."huh?'
 
in a case of scam or idk wrongdoing MA can ask u to go to police and find justice there, MA is not police, so that means they cannot see all hidden possible or not possible outside game discussion or variables that's why in most of the cases they just say final trade is final

i m questioning here the way of choosing to get involved and from my point of view if one side refuses to cooperate, final trade is final, cause who can decide if was or not a mistake?

i m questioning the proceedings, who is the judge and the police here, based on what this judge and police decides that this guy did a mistake or not?

yes if was made a mistake i agree that this mistake should be fixed, if possible, but can u tell that? i sure cannot 100%


try to convince me u did a mistake, hypothetically, make me believe using logic and proves and for every proof u bring try to visualize me saying ..."huh?'
From what I can tell, mindark didn't get involved. I'd say they were consistent, but never know what's going to happen.
 
MA did the i didnt get involved by getting involved, "oh what's this, an uprising on the forum, must investigate this account till the owner see the errors of their ways"
 
Ok, I just trade with seller and money are returned. I handed the reward and all parties are satisfied. I'd like to thank him for coming forward and ofc all the people here. Didn't really expect the community to react this way. I'm very humbled now.
This warms the soul.

An absolute win for the entropian community.
 
Great news. I am so glad this worked out for Fiona
 
MA did the i didnt get involved by getting involved, "oh what's this, an uprising on the forum, must investigate this account till the owner see the errors of their ways"
But they didnt. That's not what a 405 error is. If he was actually locked, he would have never been able to login or cancel the wire.
 
But they didnt. That's not what a 405 error is. If he was actually locked, he would have never been able to login or cancel the wire.
wait so it was actually the will of the gods that his account page was randomly locked out after initiating a wire transfer (and i didnt know this was an option whole time i been waiting 60 days for my money, fastest ever was 2 weeks when paypal was an option) but after contating fiona and returning the funds everything worked again???
 
I still can't login to my account page 405 error when I submit a ticket saying I can't login they say you have an account login to it to make a ticket.
 
I still can't login to my account page 405 error when I submit a ticket saying I can't login they say you have an account login to it to make a ticket.
Try and use the deposit button in game. You should be logged in automatically and able to create your ticket from there.
 
Sure i understand the implications and agree.

But could you whole heartedly say that you'd been okay with desicion that MA does not get involved with return if you'd made the mistake and didn't get your money back.

I dont think in legit mistake situation anyone would be happy about that.
I'll presume to answer this as though you'd addressed it generically.

The correct answer is, "possibly, for the rare person who is exceptionally disciplined at reasoning about policy as though behind the veil of ignorance, but for most folks in practice, no." But this is as irrelevant as it is obvious. Buyers in such a situation will have motivated reasons to reverse engineer the belief that MindArk should act, while sellers will have motivated reasons to believe the opposite. We (almost?) never expect someone to be a better judge of truth in the hot seat than out of it because they acquire motivated reasoning; all else equal, we prefer the judgments of impartial observers. Of course, a motivated individual's reasons should certainly be respected if those reasons stand on their own merit, but to just say "I agree with your reasoning, but I bet you would be unhappy with/unokay with/change your opinion if you were in circumstances predisposed to bias toward the opposite conclusion" does not offer any reason for those of us not in those circumstances to adopt that opposite conclusion.
 
I logged in with my cell phone on my cell network but for sure my ip is banned idk why
It is an occasional error related to overzealous DDOS protection... it should resolve soon.

On a separate note, thank you for being a great Entropian and sorting out the problem with Fiona - a good reputation is no small thing, and yours is greatly increased by your actions here.
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wait so it was actually the will of the gods that his account page was randomly locked out after initiating a wire transfer (and i didnt know this was an option whole time i been waiting 60 days for my money, fastest ever was 2 weeks when paypal was an option) but after contating fiona and returning the funds everything worked again???
Overdramatic. That's not what the error 405 means. It just blocked the website because of whatever makeshift DDOS protection they have. He had access to his account the whole time.

He has to create a support ticket (ironically on that website, kek) to add his IP.
 
Overdramatic. That's not what the error 405 means. It just blocked the website because of whatever makeshift DDOS protection they have. He had access to his account the whole time.

He has to create a support ticket (ironically on that website, kek) to add his IP.
that's why it's an act of GOD, all the ppl playing no one had this issue, not even him till he did a wire transfer out, than all of a sudden mysteriously he couldnt access the website for whatever mysterious reason of a 405 error that apparently only happened to him after doing a wiretransfer out but now all of a sudden it's working again....not overdramatic one bit, i stand uncorrectred "act of god"
 
that's why it's an act of GOD, all the ppl playing no one had this issue, not even him till he did a wire transfer out, than all of a sudden mysteriously he couldnt access the website for whatever mysterious reason of a 405 error that apparently only happened to him after doing a wiretransfer out but now all of a sudden it's working again....not overdramatic one bit, i stand uncorrectred "act of god"
Nope. its a common issue that happen to a lot of players
 
.... all the ppl playing no one had this issue, ....
It's a common error - you may not have experienced it, but many have, and it invariably indicates some network anomaly that triggers a defense.... hopping IP's, OS switches or general network malaise along the myriad connections 'twixt us and them.

Even in this case, he reports ability to connect via mobile, but not on other ISP.. ergo - network issue, not account issue.

God does not play games ;)
 
Nope. its a common issue that happen to a lot of players
how common is it for him to be able to log on and use it to do a wire transfer out, than right after instantly gets 405, after we see certain MA official in this thread browsing but not commenting, than after few days everything gets settle all is working again?
 
alright guess i just been super fortunate than to have done all my withdraws over the past 17 years and never having experienced a 405 issue after logging in my account 100s and 100s of time, but now after all these comments if i get a 405 i let u all know
 
Well... it seems a common problem that you can get shut out of your account when you try to login too many times within a short time frame. There are various threads about that on PCF. Happens to me once in a while, too. Login, doing whatever, logout... forget something... relog... error... try again... error. Have to wait or reconnect router then. :dunno:
 
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how common is it for him to be able to log on and use it to do a wire transfer out, than right after instantly gets 405, after we see certain MA official in this thread browsing but not commenting, than after few days everything gets settle all is working again?
It is possible that there is a trigger related to abrupt changes in cash flow, but i don't see that as anything more extreme than "throw a flag on the play until we've seen the slo-mo to check for any issues" if that is what happened in this case.
 
The player you quote as a noob cycles more in 1 session than you in all your ingame life...
Interesting thought process.

Never called them a noob, and you'd figure being "intelligent" enough to quote, you could also apply some reading comprehension. Not really sure what your point is, I login once a month now to shoot a few rounds out of my Mayhem LR20 after cashing out in 2011. 99% of my time ingame doesn't exist on tracker, because tracker didn't exist in 2003-2007 when I was pumping 3-5k USD a month in here.

Weird how even the most benign post, not even a slight against someone, is immediately picked up and switched around like you're CNN. I was bashing Mindark, not the player, you nitwit. Please take note of the number of posts I've made in almost 20 years on the forum, and ask me, truly, how much I care about the opinions of a non-factor.
 
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