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Any guides on starting up a quad wing taxi service?

Ghost314

Ghost314

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I saw an old youtube video that explained what it was and that it was a viable way to make money in game, but not much info on how to get started doing it. Sometimes with freemium style games I like to decide how much I'd be willing to spend on the game if it were a 'pay once to own' monetisation model and see what I can get for that price. From what I'm seeing on the auction the cost of a quad wing, thruster, fuel and repair tools is all well within what I'd be willing to spend on the game.

I feel like I could use some guidance though on things like how to deal with pirates, how to ensure I'm charging enough to profit, how to deal with being blown up etc... Or maybe there are motherships/privateers willing to let new players join the crew so I can learn some basics and level some useful space related skills? Even if I have to work for free it would probably be worth it just for the experience.
 
Here's one of most important tool you need.

space.calypsomap.com

Entropia - Interactive Space Map

An interactive map for Entropia Space
space.calypsomap.com

There used to be tool for calculating fuel and thruster cost depending on from what planet to what planet you are traveling at the moment.

I'l try to dig it from web* 🙂
 
Great, I was hoping there would be some mobs in space in non-pvp areas.

One other thing I should ask, I was thinking of buying peds directly since the starter packs are mostly filled with items I can't sell or trade and none of them would help me get to space. But what if I were to buy the oft-recommended gold starter pack and just put all my returns from hunting/swunting into the space stuff? Even if I don't make a profit while hunting, as long as I can make back most of the ped on that universal ammo stack I think I would end up with enough of a bankroll? That would also leave me with some good starting gear and the pack overall seems like better value-for-money than just buying say 300 ped.
 
In my opinion its pointless.
There is lot of free warps, then you got 10ped warps, then you got offers to take someone for free when we flying.
Most of players that have at least that 20$ a month depo can fly alone.
So your only target is someone who is fresh free to play, but they do it once.

I play almost 2 years, taking number from head, around 14 guys try it, maybe more, 1 month and you dont see adverts.

Last time I was asking guy what he wish for longest travel, Calypso to Next Island it was 10 or 12ped, so its normal people take warp for 10ped and be there in moment. But again there is lot of free warps.
 
Ghost314 said:
Great, I was hoping there would be some mobs in space in non-pvp areas.

One other thing I should ask, I was thinking of buying peds directly since the starter packs are mostly filled with items I can't sell or trade and none of them would help me get to space. But what if I were to buy the oft-recommended gold starter pack and just put all my returns from hunting/swunting into the space stuff? Even if I don't make a profit while hunting, as long as I can make back most of the ped on that universal ammo stack I think I would end up with enough of a bankroll? That would also leave me with some good starting gear and the pack overall seems like better value-for-money than just buying say 300 ped.
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For the starter packs. when You buy platinium for 75$ you got 74$ ammo + all items, so its best deal.
always cycle/pew pew to make peds. This game is skill based so buying peds direct is only when You need them fast for some big buy.
So you need to put some xxxxPED amount to system before it starts to give back very good.
 
WolfStar said:
In my opinion its pointless.
There is lot of free warps, then you got 10ped warps, then you got offers to take someone for free when we flying.
Most of players that have at least that 20$ a month depo can fly alone.
So your only target is someone who is fresh free to play, but they do it once.

I play almost 2 years, taking number from head, around 14 guys try it, maybe more, 1 month and you dont see adverts.

Last time I was asking guy what he wish for longest travel, Calypso to Next Island it was 10 or 12ped, so its normal people take warp for 10ped and be there in moment. But again there is lot of free warps.
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It is subjective, some people prefer time spent to make that 1-2 PED instead of example sweating or healing.

It is competive market, both quad taxi and low lvl healing.

Defo isnt worth my time either, but we cant say is it worth he's time.

Never find your niche if you dont give it a try eh?
 
in space flight people just fly
1. to move resources from planet A to planet B (your service is ineffective, exposed to piracy) i am not sure of what happens if there is a "offline travel" on a quad
2. to move from one planet to another to change hunting grounds with no loot carried. there are regular free warps by SSI so also ineffective.

if you want to scrap some ped, you better off Swunting monsters. sure 130% MU and 25%profit.
GL anyway in case you decide to follow that path.
 
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If quad wing taxis aren't good money anymore then maybe space will be one of those things I do for fun when I have ped to burn. The video I saw was pretty old so part of the reason I asked was to find out if anything major has changed.

I'll probably pick up the gold starter pack anyway and try out the other aspects of the game and try to save up as much ped as possible while I use up all the items. By the end I should theoretically have a pretty good amount of ped and a bit more game knowledge and perhaps some new ideas on how I want to make money to fund space ventures. Even if the platinum pack is best value it's a bit more than I'm willing to spend on the game so I'm still leaning towards the gold pack.
 
Msturlese said:
in space flight people just gly
1. to move resources from planet A to planet B (your service is ineffective, exposed to piracy) i am not sure of what happens if there is a "offline travel" on a quad
2. to move from one planet to another to change hunting grounds with no loot carried. there are regular free warps by SSI so also ineffective.

if you want to scrap some ped, you better off Swunting monsters. sure 130% profit.
GL anyway in case you decide to follow that path.
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If passenger log of in quad flight he will revive in the same server where he logged off, so it doesn't work that way.
 
gold pack is more than needed. a Barbaraella is really Good but sinkadus and sight are not.
buy a cheap 5 USD silver with a barbarella.
then buy refills for 25 USD so you have HDNA (sell them at your level are useless) and exp pills.
kill some small critter (paneleon on cyrene) sell basic extractors and sell TAIL TIPS and do all daily critter missions.
your 30 USD will last 80k skill points
 
Ghost314 said:
If quad wing taxis aren't good money anymore then maybe space will be one of those things I do for fun when I have ped to burn. The video I saw was pretty old so part of the reason I asked was to find out if anything major has changed.

I'll probably pick up the gold starter pack anyway and try out the other aspects of the game and try to save up as much ped as possible while I use up all the items. By the end I should theoretically have a pretty good amount of ped and a bit more game knowledge and perhaps some new ideas on how I want to make money to fund space ventures. Even if the platinum pack is best value it's a bit more than I'm willing to spend on the game so I'm still leaning towards the gold pack.
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Just remeber that there are looter skills. From my raw calculation if from start your building avatar good then after 1500$ your return starts to be good.
You will just dont get hyped after +10 globals in 1h. Thats also point where you are TT positive in game so basiclly its true that MA pays for playing.
But it have some rules.
 
WolfStar said:
Just remeber that there are looter skills. From my raw calculation if from start your building avatar good then after 1500$ your return starts to be good.
You will just dont get hyped after +10 globals in 1h. Thats also point where you are TT positive in game so basiclly its true that MA pays for playing.
But it have some rules.
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Quite a promise without going too much into details.
 
Arthur The Hunter said:
Quite a promise without going too much into details.
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It took me around 4 months (3 months before even instal game, 1 month during first testing) of calculations. It works, and for me thats important.
But all will be at same stage after +7k$ so no worry nothing spacial.
 
WolfStar said:
It took me around 4 months (3 months before even instal game, 1 month during first testing) of calculations. It works, and for me thats important.
But all will be at same stage after +7k$ so no worry nothing spacial.
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Dont get me wrong.

I just disslike when people make "promises" and explain things vaguely to new investers/players.

Without data to back it up, It is just talk*

Dont spill the beans and leak secrets, but also dont promote things that wont held truth without deeper knowledge.

Most people who are new aren't mentaly prepared or knowing what they are getting into.

Some say yeah let it be and let them learn and pay the price.

But keep in mind they are future players and possible depositors so any "older" player words carry certain weight and possibility that might lead into ruin.

I for one wish new players get good startup ingame and it is partly community responbility to make it smooth as possible.

No offence meant. 🙂
 
Arthur The Hunter said:
Dont get me wrong.

I just disslike when people make "promises" and explain things vaguely to new investers/players.

Without data to back it up, It is just talk*

Dont spill the beans and leak secrets, but also dont promote things that wont held truth without deeper knowledge.

Most people who are new aren't mentaly prepared or knowing what they are getting into.

Some say yeah let it be and let them learn and pay the price.

But keep in mind they are future players and possible depositors so any "older" player words carry certain weight and possibility that might lead into ruin.

I for one wish new players get good startup ingame and it is partly community responbility to make it smooth as possible.

No offence meant. 🙂
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They are incorrect anyway.
 
Arthur The Hunter said:
Dont get me wrong.
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All good my opinion is like any other. Of course its some kind of secret, for anyone who have problems with mathematic. But If I would share it here and more guys would just copy the way MA would improve somehow that "Luck".

All I can say, what everyone know, that to make it profitable avatar must have good build in skills, and at some lvl of for example mobs cost to kill vs returns are bigger with looter skills for that mob. But how to combine skills to specific target we have, and analitics of game life/flow takes some better understanding. Thats why I keep it for me as it was intensive 4 months of braining it, making notes, excel's. graphs, etc.

But just remeber im not the only one in game that knows how to be TT positive, without depending on other players, so its nothing new.

My point is just that minimum 1500$ should be considered as quazi "making a crane licence", to gain profit everyone mus invest in skills, just better dont ruin them.
 
WolfStar said:
But just remeber im not the only one in game that knows how to be TT positive, without depending on other players, so its nothing new.
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Cycle few milion peds with your looter and gun eff and then try to tell others your theories.
You would need 100 looter lvl and 100 Eff gun to be at 100% return long term.
Till then its just tin foil hat theory
 
an old fart said:
not for him! you don't get it, he spent three whole months of doing maths before even installing the game, plus another month of testing his maths.

clearly, he knows better.

duh!
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Oh yeah I forgot. How could I be so silly
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
And in Entropia terms we say that you can't profit through only TT return. And that remains true.
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Well you can do forever TT profit without skills or gear as F2P, sweating tool or picking up rocks and fruits never gonna make TT loss.
Well, unless one is an idiot and doing it with armor equipped or with healing used :D

As for Wolfstar and his loot theories. Yes, laugh one on them or not, up to You, but dont consider any of them other than a joke.
He plays the game with eyes closed, best example he is denying the existence of "waves".
 
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Hego Damask said:
best example he is denying that the existence of "waves".
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Indeed, There is no such thing like waves, even the name all given show lack of understanding of process.
Its just redistribution of ped burn in loot by contribution asigned to item release. They dont make items from air.
All need to pay to unlock it by securing economic impact on game, then who got contribution burn unlocked by refilling momentum of cost per play will take the item as first served, no crying.
I understand that not all here have at least basic understanding of economy, data analitics, programing etc.
Thats why slogans like waves are born, among same people who in past prayed to gods of thunder as simply they bring fire to caves.
 
Hego Damask said:
As for Wolfstar and his loot theories. Yes, laugh one on them or not, up to You, but dont consider any of them other than a joke.
He plays the game with eyes closed, best example he is denying the existence of "waves".
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You just wait till you hear that unl weapons crit less when they tt are low :D

and to OP, just avoid wolf theories and you should be good :)
 
WolfStar said:
Indeed, There is no such thing like waves, even the name all given show lack of understanding of process.
Its just redistribution of ped burn in loot by contribution asigned to item release. They dont make items from air.
All need to pay to unlock it by securing economic impact on game, then who got contribution burn unlocked by refilling momentum of cost per play will take the item as first served, no crying.
I understand that not all here have at least basic understanding of economy, data analitics, programing etc.
Thats why slogans like waves are born, among same people who in past prayed to gods of thunder as simply they bring fire to caves.
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Look at pristine droplets on entropia life and do some basic statistics with them(histograms, confidence intervals, significance tests) you’ll get every one of your theories debunked I promise you.

For example, before this last event (didn't track due to ziplex spam messing up droplets on EL) 26.94% of droplets dropped within the first 15 seconds of a wave starting.
Multiple of the same droplet COULD drop in the same wave.
 
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