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la aurora said:
And ubers (or ones lucky enough to get ATH for example) are just players like we all are. They deposited money, they put in lost of effort...
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Are you sure? Many of them haven't deposited more then 10$ as they claim, and yet they own more ingame then lots of us IRL. How? well, easy when you can fap evade for the cost of basically nothing, or duplicate items, or abuse the system and gain fighting skills from crafting, and trapping when it was "legal".

I might be "new" but i've read all i can about the past, and it ain't pretty. I've also spoke with many old players that told me alot of compromising information. Amazing as it is, all you need to know is spread out along the forums... in very old posts, discussions and acusations.

One things for sure, the world belongs to the smart and bold. I can't see why it would be different in this little "world" of ours.

The community doesn't want to see blood. What we want to know is... why should we not use the "exploits" or "bots" if some people use them and get away with it?

Otherwise, if we all used a hunting bot.. then what? MA would ban us all? or make it a legal thing?

MA has to give us an answer, they owe us that. We pay for their salaries ffs..
 
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Sonya Heart said:
Not quite that simple, This involves real money, The EULA is not the Law,

for example : MA can close ur account for no reason. If you had 10k dollars in there and they did that to you for no reason would you let it sit? Its basically theft. If you broke the EULA fine your banned from the game but they cannot steal you money.

A court case wether it succeeded or failed would still get to the press and MA would suffer for it, so my point is they wouldnt do it.
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Hate to compare this to a casino, but if I got $10,000 cheating while playing blackjack and then got caught do you think that the casino is going to let me keep my $10,000 and ask me to leave??? MA is not going to say well we caught you cheating and you amassed 100,000 ped and 1000's of ped worth of loot while doing this, so we are closing your account, but we will give you time to cash out and keep all of that money. MA does not have to give them squat. If they were indeed cheating it is there loss. I don't care if they invested $10,000 prior to the offense legitimately. Cheating is cheating...CASE CLOSED...
 
I dont get what the problem is??

MA has a rule that says 3 party software that interact with the game is forbidden. it´s been in the rules forever.

There is nothing to talk about, there is nothing to discuss, they don´t need to say anything about it, all they need to do is ban the people using forbidden software.
 
Jorael said:
Are you sure? Many of them haven't deposited more then 10$ as they claim, and yet they own more ingame then lots of us IRL. How? well, easy when you can fap evade for the cost of basically nothing, or duplicate items, or abuse the system and gain fighting skills from crafting, and trapping when it was "legal".
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Those species are getting more and more rare.
When you see sell mod fap , sell mod mer ...
Guess who is leaving the game , guess who is paying big buck to be in the "uber" pack...

I think nowday at least 50% but probably more of the so called uber are people who deposited shitload big amount of money to buy their stuff.
Thie uber deposited 10$ and now is millionaire story is getting in the urban legand categorie...
Most of those people have leaft the game...
Look soc like cK ... there not much old betta player with original stuff left ... most of them is people who bouth item hight price , and mouve their arse for skilling.
 
zappen said:
I dont get what the problem is??

MA has a rule that says 3 party software that interact with the game is forbidden. it´s been in the rules forever.

There is nothing to talk about, there is nothing to discuss, they don´t need to say anything about it, all they need to do is ban the people using forbidden software.
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What about a mousedriver? ;) (I can imagine there are mousedrivers with autoclick, meant for accesebility purposes)
 
Witte said:
What about a mousedriver? ;) (I can imagine there are mousedrivers with autoclick, meant for accesebility purposes)
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Yes thats what they must meen by it....
 
Are you sure? Many of them haven't deposited more then 10$ as they claim, and yet they own more ingame then lots of us IRL. How? well, easy when you can fap evade for the cost of basically nothing, or duplicate items, or abuse the system and gain fighting skills from crafting, and trapping when it was "legal".

I might be "new" but i've read all i can about the past, and it ain't pretty. I've also spoke with many old players that told me alot of compromising information. Amazing as it is, all you need to know is spread out along the forums... in very old posts, discussions and acusations.
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I know this is off topic so I'll keep it short. Don't just believe all the stuff you heard a lot of it is blown way out of proportion, like the duping thing. I'm not saying a lot of weird things didn't happen but I'd say a lot of pregold 'ubers' as people call them became that rich because of the huge inflation, hunting knowhow and better loots in the past. I think I can say because quite some of pregold hunters/high skilled people are in my soc and compared to the 'new' ubers most did indeed deposit only a minimal fraction. On the other hand when you died you had to float your ghost back to a revterm though so I gues it evens out ;-) jk (please feel free to continue in new thread/pm)

On topic: I also think a clear statement from MA on what's going on is wishful thinking. I do hope this thread will reveal some stuff though, if only to get rid of the impression some people enjoy 'protection' from MA's side which I don't believe. Time will tell I guess.
 
Does PE Assistant count as a 3rd party Program? :confused:
i know it doesn't interact with PE but does it still fit the definition?

Nevermind... Just found the answer 53 pages is a lot to wade through
 
BOTS botS botS..

been waiting along time, seeing how botS stole from other games like lineage and Wow and heard much more..

yesterday i talk with my good friend (even though he playes Wow ^^)

and he found a way to counter the bots atleast in wow.. dont work in EU unfortunatly..

Example how to exploit a bot in WoW....
(exploit the exploiter.. hmmn well we have discussed this before therefore no morale from my side is to be taken in count here.. i still think stealing from a thief makes a thief.)

just before the programmed bot Encounters the mop u give it dammage so itS ur mop (in WoW who shoots first gets the mop.. not most dammage like in EU.. unless they have a grab counter magic stuff as they do in wow...)
But most of the boTs dont have this Counter spell. well Being the one who shot first the bot will now spend the time killing ur mop and after u go collect it :D


Enough said about WoW i think this is the moSt community sensetive problem we have .....

Since 1. MA still get money Real person or n0ot sitting doing it..

i hear they locked some accountS

BuT 2. Before being on a gaming messe wwould u need alot of bad PR that ur game is being exploited by BotS ???

oR 3. would u think they wanted it before the asian release

Instead they build a bOat ?????

We need MA to be open in this matter so people know What to belive or not.. Have plenty oF rumors ..

Just my 1 melchi

How to counter the idea..

Make A boT loot pool= all loot that was taken from Bots gets into this pile and then if u kill a bot u get from that MM impMK2 and moD fappy POOL ;)

naah just a lame attempt to find out, a sollution..

MA need to realease some spyware that detects the BuggerS and Chop em in haLF
 
so many messages! has anyone that has supposedly been banned posted in this forum yet? Mindark? I can't bear to read 53 pages of posts. Lets cut to the chase and get back to original thread. Is it true they were banned?
 
shiek said:
so many messages! has anyone that has supposedly been banned posted in this forum yet? Mindark? I can't bear to read 53 pages of posts. Lets cut to the chase and get back to original thread. Is it true they were banned?
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You could at least read 1 page back ...
 
Jorael said:
Are you sure? Many of them haven't deposited more then 10$ as they claim, and yet they own more ingame then lots of us IRL. How? well, easy when you can fap evade for the cost of basically nothing, or duplicate items, or abuse the system and gain fighting skills from crafting, and trapping when it was "legal".
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I think I wrote more then 1 post stating my opinion on this matter. Yes, there are people who risked nothing and got everything. Yes, there are people that got high skills exploiting bugs. What do I think about it? I hate it, really and I believe it was a strategical mistake from MA. But I don't see a reason to blame these people for playing the way MA let them to and getting what MA was giving them. If those people were banned for what they did back in years or if harm done was reversed, we wouldn't be talking about manny issues here. But letting them stay and profit, letting new generations of players, that don't understand what's allowed and what's not, grow - that's not the fault of any player.

Luck is not something we can control and it definitely shouldn't be the measure for who should be punished or not. For me there's absolutely no difference between the guy who got 80K+ ATH from trapped spider and thousands of others who trapped and haven't got anything. I understand that getting some uber locked and having all his items back in the lootpool is more tempting than blocking some unknown and less lucky guy who did the same but can't add to lootpool much. And still I believe they should be treated equaly.
 
Yeah, but for that to happen, half of EU players had to be banned. Thats the thing. MA has its hands tied in what regards trapping, but not in what concerns hunting bots. Because that's something recent, and used in the current days.

And you know what? I've deposited alot more money then im willing to admit.. Yet i keep on struggling to get good loots. I lost hope on getting better equipment then MK5+Fap90 because it would take me 1 year working to gather 120K peds for an Imk2... but in 1 year time it will cost 200K or more.

So, old players have all the boons, all the skills and all the gears. And i feel like im in the bottom of the pyramid so i can feed the machine in which those (not all) abusers remain in the top.

And now you tell me they are using hunting bots? ffs. Ban them already.
 
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i must say, you guys have done a fine job procrastinating on a thread that's pretty much hypothetical :zzz: :bull:

:sweat:
 
This thread has gone on long enough now, very little to nothing to add, going in circles, going off-topic, going against EF rules.

Time for a lock. :locked:
 
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