Item is worth a very nice penny now it can take the best mayhem L amps and even the bigger UL ones, i bet your getting flooded by resellers pming you saying its worth shit all at this tier i wouldn't entertain any offers under 7k, pre exisiting sales were only valued low because the amp market for mindforce was horrid, any pre sales means shitall and anybody saying otherwise is just trying to cut your legs out from under you and steal the item.