News: Easter Mayhem 2025

Lot of bitching here. And seems like most of it from people with money. "Oh we have to grind now 3 years for something,blablablaa" You don't even know what items will be in the vendor. As i remember MA said something about some new items. Second, you don't see a simple player here bitching about having to grind a full year for a low tt value dropship on Ark. Adapt or quit. Lot of other things you can do in life.
 
Adapt or quit.
That's what a lot of players I know do (quitting), which is bad for Entropia in the long run. MA is effectively erased years of hard work for many players, that doesn’t really inspire confidence, especially considering their history...
 
That's what a lot of players I know do (quitting), which is bad for Entropia in the long run. MA is effectively erased years of hard work for many players, that doesn’t really inspire confidence, especially considering their history...
The consequences of exploits left to run for years? Is this the payoff? I see a lot of changes in the game, all of which take into account both what the players said and what MA thinks is best to save the game.
After all, MA has the numbers and can draw conclusions and set up the future of this game.
 
That's what a lot of players I know do (quitting), which is bad for Entropia in the long run. MA is effectively erased years of hard work for many players, that doesn’t really inspire confidence, especially considering their history...
What hard work exactly is erased? Im not blind, i see that MA made some mistakes, most of it fixable. But erasing all the hard work? Would not go that far.
 
Gotta vote with your wallet. Prove me wrong you hidden players that gonna grind the shit of this mayhem enough to make up for their revenue stream loss of annihilation. /s There must be thousands of you just eagerly waiting for mayhem to start with as much hype as at least one person in this thread has displayed.
I vote no! (I think)
See y’all at Summer Mayhem/Migration check in!
 
What hard work exactly is erased? Im not blind, i see that MA made some mistakes, most of it fixable. But erasing all the hard work? Would not go that far.

The point is that there are some unaddressed issues that will keep a lot of people from doing Mayhem.

Again, there is a surplus of Mayhem Tokens caused by Resource Mayhem. Why should people do Mayhem now, with reduced token drops - When people are sitting on piles of tokens from RM 1 and RM 2? I mean sure, you can launch the event - but the turn-out is going to be at an all-time low. If you call that "adapt", fine.

Secondly - People in both normal Mayhems and RM are sitting on a lot of tokens they invested in to acquire - And now it seems that the vendor will be stocked exclusively with (L) items and (L) BPs 🤷‍♂️
 
The point is that there are some unaddressed issues that will keep a lot of people from doing Mayhem.

Again, there is a surplus of Mayhem Tokens caused by Resource Mayhem. Why should people do Mayhem now, with reduced token drops - When people are sitting on piles of tokens from RM 1 and RM 2? I mean sure, you can launch the event - but the turn-out is going to be at an all-time low. If you call that "adapt", fine.

Secondly - People in both normal Mayhems and RM are sitting on a lot of tokens they invested in to acquire - And now it seems that the vendor will be stocked exclusively with (L) items and (L) BPs 🤷‍♂️
So you can't start a job because some people sit on large bank accounts? That doesn't make sense. Your direct competitor is yourself and your ability to push forward, not anyone's bank account / PED card.
With your argument no one would ever have a reason to start this game, because someone is almost level 700.
When I start collecting MTokens, there were people that aleady made 3-4 pulls selling for crazy amount of money and I was counting 5 + 1 = 6, + 1 = 7 and I was happy I could also collect some tokens with my small weapon, thinking I'm never going to get anything, but maybe... maybe one of those smallest ones could slip into my hands, event after event, I made 4 big pulls and I plan to make more. Suit yourself and stand away if what others achieved upsets you so much, more for the active entropians ;)
 
So you can't start a job because some people sit on large bank accounts? That doesn't make sense. Your direct competitor is yourself and your ability to push forward, not anyone's bank account / PED card.
With your argument no one would ever have a reason to start this game, because someone is almost level 700.
When I start collecting MTokens, there were people that aleady made 3-4 pulls selling for crazy amount of money and I was counting 5 + 1 = 6, + 1 = 7 and I was happy I could also collect some tokens with my small weapon, thinking I'm never going to get anything, but maybe... maybe one of those smallest ones could slip into my hands, event after event, I made 4 big pulls and I plan to make more. Suit yourself and stand away if what others achieved upsets you so much, more for the active entropians ;)

That is a great attitude 👍
Im just trying to formulate into words why there is a large drop of activity/participation, so that maybe something can be done by MA to turn things around.
 
That is a great attitude 👍
Im just trying to formulate into words why there is a large drop of activity/participation, so that maybe something can be done by MA to turn things around.
They already decided to go bold with these changes. When there was massive hp xploiting in lootables with pyrite ore, MA removed the incentive of players to do that without punishing the players. Today (actually they said they will do it on Feb 25th) they make the same thing, correct a severe issue, that of macroing, by adding active gameplay into equastion which is great especially for new and medium players, they have a chance of progressing while the big players will not progress as fast, many will quit mayhems because of having to manually play it now... so your direct competition will be say other 10 active players, instead of other 50 macro users and that is huge for the game. We already have too many that "park" their avatars even in public spawns when they go to bed.

Imagine how much juices from cyrene would be worth if the instance with be like an assault-like instance... looking forward to that day.
 
Again, there is a surplus of Mayhem Tokens caused by Resource Mayhem. Why should people do Mayhem now, with reduced token drops - When people are sitting on piles of tokens from RM 1 and RM 2?
Was there an actual question? If there was then it's kind of simple. If i find that starting Easter Mayhem does not fit my needs i will not participate. If it does, i will participate. Simple choice for every player here. Let MA worry about lows or highs.

Secondly, there is money in L items and bp-s from vendor. Not like Messi's ul sales but ped is there. And there is other side to the coin. If MA happened to fill the vendor to bursting with ul items and everyone can pull, who will they sell it to?

It's an MMO game, everchanging. I seriously doubt that when certain players started playing then MA signed a document stating that these players will be covered with ped until they die. Do accept it as a changing game or quit.
 
What hard work exactly is erased? Im not blind, i see that MA made some mistakes, most of it fixable. But erasing all the hard work? Would not go that far.
I get where you're coming from, but when MA makes drastic changes, it often feels like years of effort and investment are undermined. That can (and does) leave players with little to show for their time and money spent. Sure, some mistakes can be fixed, but for many, it feels like progress is constantly reset, which can be discouraging. I’m all for adaptation, but it’s hard to stay motivated when it seems like the rug could be pulled out from under you at any moment.

I'm sceptical, but wait and see I guess! Their reports, the numbers, and deed income (2 pec atm) will show what the general playerbase thinks. It won't take long before we see the effect of the current changes and those that are still coming.
 
So you can't start a job because some people sit on large bank accounts? That doesn't make sense. Your direct competitor is yourself and your ability to push forward, not anyone's bank account / PED card.
With your argument no one would ever have a reason to start this game, because someone is almost level 700.
When I start collecting MTokens, there were people that aleady made 3-4 pulls selling for crazy amount of money and I was counting 5 + 1 = 6, + 1 = 7 and I was happy I could also collect some tokens with my small weapon, thinking I'm never going to get anything, but maybe... maybe one of those smallest ones could slip into my hands, event after event, I made 4 big pulls and I plan to make more. Suit yourself and stand away if what others achieved upsets you so much, more for the active entropians ;)
these are all valid arguments, however this was before mindark started hijacking vendor prices and creating other events that gave the in comparisnj costly earned original mtokens drop in value even further - you cant tell people to put trust in mindark and work for a future reward while mindark in a single year halfed their item values and quartered their token savings - there is no reasonable argument to motivate a player to put a years effort into something when mindark at the same time takes 3 years worth of effort away through inflation/devalueation. sure in such times there will always be those who seek opportunity and trying to get an edge over those who give up and these opportunities exist especially in a game of relative competition but to even think for a second that on a limited vendor stock those able to collect 2k mtokens stand a remote chance to save something up while many other players sit on token piles of several hundred k is just tricking oneself - before the tokens aquired in the new type of mayhem add up to anything the vendor will be emptied many times over by players who already have tokens from rm.
mindark needs to retroactively split the tokens from rm and from regular mayhem and if one feels thats unfair then just let them mirror the regular mayhem vendor and an rm vendor so those who did rm have their rewards while not taking the limited supply whichever mindark may add from those who saved up the costly way of regular mayhems.
 
Haven't seen what are the actual changes, since according to the event details we know rewards are dog shit.

Anti bot features are great, but I haven't seen the benefits of depositing yet.
 
I like this Gauntlet format a lot, it's a good move to reward actual active gameplay and not macro abusers for once.

And about the tokens... people raise some good points in this thread but I dont see an easy solution that would be fair to everyone. Let's not punish players for Mindarks bad decisions... are you sure you all want to go that route?

I have only like 8k tokens so a full reset would be very beneficial to me, but that does NOT feel fair...

Happy hunting ;)
 
I predict the mayhem vendor will have their prices increased without a refill, again.

Shame, I enjoyed the instance in summer mayhem but will not be shooting a single shot until a refill happens.
 
mindark needs to retroactively split the tokens from rm and from regular mayhem and if one feels thats unfair then just let them mirror the regular mayhem vendor and an rm vendor so those who did rm have their rewards while not taking the limited supply whichever mindark may add from those who saved up the costly way of regular mayhems.
How does that make sense when a lot of people already pulled from vendor with tokens farmed in RM? Take away their items? They can't retroactively repurpose those tokens because a small minority of players chose not to participate in that format. Same as those that have tokens made 5 years ago, the hard competitive way, they cannot ask to remove the tokens that were poured in the game via farming the annihilation, just because they did not accept the format... it doesn't make any sense. Whoever is sitting on whatever they bought, it's their thing, can't take it away just because you don't have a similar pile...
 
So many people are complaining about something that hasn’t even started yet. Some of those complaining have never participated in Mayhem or stopped years ago by their own admission and have intention to regardless of changes. Some don’t even play the game anymore. Just complaining to complain?

As for MTokens, I can understand the uncertainty of that.

MA is finally doing something that will curtail macro/botting in Mayhem and they are chastised for the change. Evey is right, the change to the structure of Mayhem will reduce the marco/botters dramatically. I’m all for it! It levels the playing field that we all have wanted to happen for a very long time. How can anyone be upset about that part aside from the macro/botters?

At this point we don’t even know what will be in the boxes (and won’t know until April 15th). We don’t know what new loot changes they have made. How about we just wait and see before coming to a conclusion? If you want to complain after you give it a go so that you actually know what you’re talking about then by all means. It’s purely speculative for how it will be until it starts.

If you want to sit it out because you have already decided how it’s going to be before even seeing for yourself then I and others will happily capitalize on that with whatever new things MA has in store. It’s more left on the table for those of us that take a more rational approach and try it ourselves before deciding.
 
congratulations MA is the first step to come to the disadvantage of those who use macro.:beerchug:

if there is nothing left to exploit they declare themselves not interested:nana:

they changed their minds and now are against macro. :offtopic:

we know who has abused this system the most 24/7:inbed: (worked in 3 shifts sometimes 8 days a week)

so shut up James
 
knowing MA, prices will be lowered for UL items and redeem token will be introduced as rare token is ruined :D
 
I haven't participated in a mayhem yet. Was thinking of checking out the low level of Easter, but seeing the reward structure, this looks horrific
You can try first few stages at defence mayhem. These are easy to do and rewards are not that bad on defensive mayhem.
 
Make BatSim great again!!!!! No really totally off topic but I don’t care bring it back!!!!

Batsim was really nice, I'd like to do do some runs of that...



Also, gotta love them haters, no matter what event, VU, when it starts, normal people fu MA, yay MA, I like it, I don't liek it. Fanclub: huo messi, huo eve :)))))))
 
How does that make sense when a lot of people already pulled from vendor with tokens farmed in RM? Take away their items? They can't retroactively repurpose those tokens because a small minority of players chose not to participate in that format. Same as those that have tokens made 5 years ago, the hard competitive way, they cannot ask to remove the tokens that were poured in the game via farming the annihilation, just because they did not accept the format... it doesn't make any sense. Whoever is sitting on whatever they bought, it's their thing, can't take it away just because you don't have a similar pile...
there is no taking away when you get the tokens earned from an event to be used for a vendor from that event while being able to pull items from both events copied to both vendors. besides im pretty sure that the number of players who harvested hundreds of k of mtokens from rm are only one or 2 dozend while the players who got their original mtokens devalued are thousands - a retroactive split will restore the value of old mtokens without taking anything away from those who did rm therefor giving incentive to work towards future pulls for the playerbase as a whole.
 
I love it, great direction Mindark. Will be interesting to see the about of globals in Entropia Life over the week of the New Easter Mayhem. I think it will be very telling.

But Active Gameplay IS GOOD.
 
a retroactive split will restore
You chose to drill the bots, you always choose those over any mayhem, resource mayhem, migra and what not, it's not other ppl's fault you chose not to participate in active content and RM was ighly active, had to do a lot of stuff, mine, craft, hunt, interact with people, chase shops and whatnot. A lot of people only did one of those activities, liek mined a lot and used minerals for RM, why are they to retroactively anything???

Why engineer such a useless mechanism as to repurpose peopel tokens for this? Next time participate, don't let it pass you then to propose ways to alter what already went down because you were afk
 
You chose to drill the bots, you always choose those over any mayhem, resource mayhem, migra and what not, it's not other ppl's fault you chose not to participate in active content and RM was ighly active, had to do a lot of stuff, mine, craft, hunt, interact with people, chase shops and whatnot. A lot of people only did one of those activities, liek mined a lot and used minerals for RM, why are they to retroactively anything???

Why engineer such a useless mechanism as to repurpose peopel tokens for this? Next time participate, don't let it pass you then to propose ways to alter what already went down because you were afk
i have done rm though not repeatedly because i was convinced that it was totally unblanced giving the same rewards then regular mayhem and i told mindark respectively, i have done every hunting mayhem extensively for a few years now - yes i do drillbots for robot looter skilling but for you to claim that i do them instead of mayhem is totally wrong. i have done all the game content out there including spina queen, ,rdi, have access to all areas
rm was a design flaw and some people chose to abuse it and take full advantage - no one is asking for taking something away just to fix the screw up that was done to all the other players who saved up tokens for years
 
ok, so... let me understand this:

- some, before, during mayhem, playing 24/7 and by the grace of the Universe and the power of the red bull managed to sit those hours in event for years and now got a voice against it telling us that they did it by being "active players"
-players who were once "active" 24/7 in mayhem events took advantage of this "opportunity" and managed to pull items depleting their stack, now mocking those who slowly wanted something for themselves for being stupid in doing so
- same players mentioned above, by the grace of the same Universe who brought them 2x RM to refill the lost stacks over the ones who paid from 0.3-1ped/Mtoken based on total loss, on a price of 01-03 are preaching now same "oportunity" over the hard earning working players

so, in conclusion:
- the same players who managed to stay 24/7 (not because they are superheroes)... encouraged by those who have always been vocal against macro and any autohunting (not because they are hypocrites).... after using their mtoken stacks (not because they were greedy, for personal use)... they renewed their stack thru RM (not because was a mistake but an opportunity).... and now they applaud the active game and telling everyone how magical and good is the new change (not because they managed to refill their stacks and they have something to lose)
- all of the above supposed to give us trust and fairness from the same Universe to work out our way for another 2-3 years, adapting and pushing fwd, only to to be surprised by another version of RM that could be made in a fraction of the prior years of effort.

did i miss anything here?
 
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So if you can manage to do all stages in you get 3356Tokens, Previously if you completed just the redulite mission and the daily missions you would get roughly 16K tookens, So does this mean you get more from dailys now or is it simply impossible to gather enough tokens to pull anything of use?


That is the question we all wonder I suppose, But my guess is that this was a blunder for the rewards unless they increased the daily mission payout which I doubt.

well well well
 
So if you can manage to do all stages in you get 3356Tokens, Previously if you completed just the redulite mission and the daily missions you would get roughly 16K tookens, So does this mean you get more from dailys now or is it simply impossible to gather enough tokens to pull anything of use?


That is the question we all wonder I suppose, But my guess is that this was a blunder for the rewards unless they increased the daily mission payout which I doubt.

well well well
they did say no more tokens in loot unless that has changed i dont see how dailies could make up for this unless they increased their reward tenfold
 
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