Xanato Xan Kaso
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Hello with the recent change to Mayhem I am completely restructuring my layout for my rental service thread, if it is not against the rules I would like to get some feed back from this forum since its about a service I am offering. And then once I have settled on an optimal layout for customers I can have the thread deleted or just let it die until feedback is needed again.
In my previous thread I had things sectioned off between a mayhem post and a non-mayhem post. I am thinking of just removing that all together and just have a singular post with my entire inventory, but having the way mayhem pricing is explained so that when it comes mayhem time its just a simple calculation to figure out the cost of a mayhem rental under the new system.
I have the meet and great first page with explanation and a post somewhere with customer reviews (like yelp or google play store)
But as for the layout of the items themselves.
Previously it was.
[all the rings]
[Crit gear]
[Armor]
[Mindforce]
[Weapon Amps]
[Weapons]
The weapons were then subdivided into what mayhem category they fit into Cat 1,2,3 etc. With their base dps, DPP. Tier collateral requirement. and recently I added Effective dps and dps with enhancers, though I am thinking of changing that (more in a bit).
With the new system and no mayhem categories to subdivide them into, I could just list weapons in base dps order with the same information above, in 1 giant table, however I figured that may be an eye sore, especially if you are looking for a certain type of weapon within a certain dps range. With mayhem categories no longer having a hard dps and skill cap, I can make 1 singular post with all pertinent information if displayed correctly. Here is what I thought of and am currently working on, but suggestions on making it better are always appreciated. Here is a link to the thread so you can see its progress as I edit it to the new format, but if I like a suggestion or get multiple players suggesting the same thing I can start reworking the post. Because ultimately my goal is to provide the community Legendary Customer Service (hence the name ) and I want to make this as easy and beneficial for you as possible. So without further ado, my new layout plans for the thread.
So I am keeping most of the other categories
Rings, Crit gear, Armor. Weapon Amps. However I am making Non-Combat or Non-DPS mindforce (Which wording is better?
Then instead of one giant sheet, I am subdividing "Weapons" into the following Categories. Rifles, Pistols. Melee. Mindforce. Loot 2.0 Weapons.
I thought about doing Laser, BLP. Short Blades. Long Blades. etc... But I dont think my inventory is large enough to warrant it.
So if in the "RIFLES" Table next to a weapon a section just Says BLP. Laser. Gauss, Plasma. it should make it pretty easy. Same for the other Groups. With Melee I put Longblade Shortblade, On-hand Club. etc. In mindforce, I just do Pyro. Electric. Cryo...
Each section would then be ranked from lowest base dps to highest base dps. That way you can easily search for what you are looking for.
Example.
Now to the point I put a pin in before, instead of posting the effective dps and DPSw/ Enhancers, Because I have to use the wiki tool for each weapon and any time i get a higher tiered version or if I have multiple tiers available for rent, I was just thinking of putting XX dps per tier, from its base dps. Because each weapon will be different anyways based on the persons amp choice.
So for weapon 4 it has a base dps of 25 with Tier 10. So I would put dps with enh/ as 50 since the enhancers doubles it, and instead of effective dps, DPS per Enhancer, so 2.5.
Also for weapon 3 I listed two different collaterals and tiers and dps w/ enh, so the player can easily calculate whether they want to go with the tier 4 or tier 7 based on collateral values etc. (Should I use this method, or just stick in 1 value, or the same weapon multiple times with its own tier level and collateral value?
This would give players a quick and easy way to eyeball the weapon they want to use, the dps it would perform as well as how it performs against other weapons I have available along with collateral necessary.
But after the layout changes, I have to do some changes to the way I charge prices. During non-mayhem I made my prices so it was more cost effective to rent than to use limited weapons, as well as easier than buying a weapon, using for a week, and trying to sell it off again. And with the removal of the categories, I cant charge a higher rate for category winning mayhem weapon vs a normal weapon. Since the event has become more standardized I had some ideas about how to standardize my price structure, that way its fair to everyone who rents. I could easily just negotiate each deal individually but eventually I will end up charging two different people different prices for the same weapon(Sales/discounts/specials aside), and that doesn't sit right with me.
During non-mayhem I did not charge extra for higher tiers. I charged on its base dps level, according to the market of limited weapons to ensure renting was cheaper. I also did not take the weapons value into account though I think that should be a part of the equation but I dont know how to calculate that in FAIRLY. But for mayhem with it being about doing as much dps as possible I thought of a fair way to make up for the changes in how mayhem. as well as the costs for tiering and time associated with making weapons better.
Each tier adds 10% extra damage, up to a total of 100% more at tier 10. Since my pricing is already cheaper than limited weapons MU calculated and compared with BASE dps. I thought a FAIR way to price weapons for mayhem rentals would be to add 5% more ped to the cost for each tier a weapon has. So at tier 10, a rental is 50% additional ped. This would also give players some more flexibility in choice. Before, if you wanted to really "WIN" in your category you had to use a certain weapon and had to pay its price, which I will admit is something that was made up arbitrarily but based on what the market base would pay, I lowered my prices over time until I finally found the 'sweet spot' to where items would be rented out frequently and customers very happy with the service. But with this new payment system, it is no longer arbitrary and players can plan and know what to expect.
So what do you guys think about my ideas on the new layout and price structure, what do you think I should change? I am open to suggestions and would greatly appreciate your feedback.
In my previous thread I had things sectioned off between a mayhem post and a non-mayhem post. I am thinking of just removing that all together and just have a singular post with my entire inventory, but having the way mayhem pricing is explained so that when it comes mayhem time its just a simple calculation to figure out the cost of a mayhem rental under the new system.
I have the meet and great first page with explanation and a post somewhere with customer reviews (like yelp or google play store)
But as for the layout of the items themselves.
Previously it was.
[all the rings]
[Crit gear]
[Armor]
[Mindforce]
[Weapon Amps]
[Weapons]
The weapons were then subdivided into what mayhem category they fit into Cat 1,2,3 etc. With their base dps, DPP. Tier collateral requirement. and recently I added Effective dps and dps with enhancers, though I am thinking of changing that (more in a bit).
With the new system and no mayhem categories to subdivide them into, I could just list weapons in base dps order with the same information above, in 1 giant table, however I figured that may be an eye sore, especially if you are looking for a certain type of weapon within a certain dps range. With mayhem categories no longer having a hard dps and skill cap, I can make 1 singular post with all pertinent information if displayed correctly. Here is what I thought of and am currently working on, but suggestions on making it better are always appreciated. Here is a link to the thread so you can see its progress as I edit it to the new format, but if I like a suggestion or get multiple players suggesting the same thing I can start reworking the post. Because ultimately my goal is to provide the community Legendary Customer Service (hence the name ) and I want to make this as easy and beneficial for you as possible. So without further ado, my new layout plans for the thread.
So I am keeping most of the other categories
Rings, Crit gear, Armor. Weapon Amps. However I am making Non-Combat or Non-DPS mindforce (Which wording is better?
Then instead of one giant sheet, I am subdividing "Weapons" into the following Categories. Rifles, Pistols. Melee. Mindforce. Loot 2.0 Weapons.
I thought about doing Laser, BLP. Short Blades. Long Blades. etc... But I dont think my inventory is large enough to warrant it.
So if in the "RIFLES" Table next to a weapon a section just Says BLP. Laser. Gauss, Plasma. it should make it pretty easy. Same for the other Groups. With Melee I put Longblade Shortblade, On-hand Club. etc. In mindforce, I just do Pyro. Electric. Cryo...
Each section would then be ranked from lowest base dps to highest base dps. That way you can easily search for what you are looking for.
Example.
Mindforce | Collateral | Tier | Skill To Max | Base DPS | Dps Per Enhancer | DPS w/ Enhancer | DPP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Weapon 1 | 3k | 2 | Pyro 10 | 10 | 1 | 12 | xxx |
Weapon 2 | 22k | 8 | Cryo 25 | 15 | 1.5 | 27 | xxx |
Weapon 3 | 5k/9k | 4/7 | Elecric 30 | 20 | 2 | 28/34 | xxx |
Weapon 4 | 30k | 10 | Pyro 40 | 25 | 2.5 | 50 | xxx |
Weapon 5 | 12k | 5 | Cryo 10 | 30 | 3 | 45 | xxx |
Weapon 6 | 7k | 3 | Elecric 15 | 35 | 3.5 | 45.5 | xxx |
Now to the point I put a pin in before, instead of posting the effective dps and DPSw/ Enhancers, Because I have to use the wiki tool for each weapon and any time i get a higher tiered version or if I have multiple tiers available for rent, I was just thinking of putting XX dps per tier, from its base dps. Because each weapon will be different anyways based on the persons amp choice.
So for weapon 4 it has a base dps of 25 with Tier 10. So I would put dps with enh/ as 50 since the enhancers doubles it, and instead of effective dps, DPS per Enhancer, so 2.5.
Also for weapon 3 I listed two different collaterals and tiers and dps w/ enh, so the player can easily calculate whether they want to go with the tier 4 or tier 7 based on collateral values etc. (Should I use this method, or just stick in 1 value, or the same weapon multiple times with its own tier level and collateral value?
This would give players a quick and easy way to eyeball the weapon they want to use, the dps it would perform as well as how it performs against other weapons I have available along with collateral necessary.
But after the layout changes, I have to do some changes to the way I charge prices. During non-mayhem I made my prices so it was more cost effective to rent than to use limited weapons, as well as easier than buying a weapon, using for a week, and trying to sell it off again. And with the removal of the categories, I cant charge a higher rate for category winning mayhem weapon vs a normal weapon. Since the event has become more standardized I had some ideas about how to standardize my price structure, that way its fair to everyone who rents. I could easily just negotiate each deal individually but eventually I will end up charging two different people different prices for the same weapon(Sales/discounts/specials aside), and that doesn't sit right with me.
During non-mayhem I did not charge extra for higher tiers. I charged on its base dps level, according to the market of limited weapons to ensure renting was cheaper. I also did not take the weapons value into account though I think that should be a part of the equation but I dont know how to calculate that in FAIRLY. But for mayhem with it being about doing as much dps as possible I thought of a fair way to make up for the changes in how mayhem. as well as the costs for tiering and time associated with making weapons better.
Each tier adds 10% extra damage, up to a total of 100% more at tier 10. Since my pricing is already cheaper than limited weapons MU calculated and compared with BASE dps. I thought a FAIR way to price weapons for mayhem rentals would be to add 5% more ped to the cost for each tier a weapon has. So at tier 10, a rental is 50% additional ped. This would also give players some more flexibility in choice. Before, if you wanted to really "WIN" in your category you had to use a certain weapon and had to pay its price, which I will admit is something that was made up arbitrarily but based on what the market base would pay, I lowered my prices over time until I finally found the 'sweet spot' to where items would be rented out frequently and customers very happy with the service. But with this new payment system, it is no longer arbitrary and players can plan and know what to expect.
So what do you guys think about my ideas on the new layout and price structure, what do you think I should change? I am open to suggestions and would greatly appreciate your feedback.
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