Menu
What's New
By:
Filters

Feffox Mayhem Feedback!

pfesler said:
This is just a dick comment. If you have been playing a few years and you can't kill a feffox young...you're the problem, not MA.

First time I'm ever neg repping someone, and for some whiny, rude ignorant, ill thought out bullshit.
Click to expand...

Hehe, mine is a dick comment? No good sir, mine was a true and real comment that many feel in EU and furthermore it was full of constructive criticism, not mean words. MA is the one who asked for feedback, I simply gave them mine and kindly asked that they consider it. My comments were not pushy or mean at all. If you want an example of a dick comment then take a look at your own. Picking on a person simply because they have some constructive criticism to give to the developers of a game that they enjoy and would like to see grow and become better. Furthermore, it is indeed their fault if they say and I quote: "This event is an event for ALL SKILL TYPES and GEAR TYPES" and then it clearly isn't by an extremely far margin. It would be one thing if I just barely wasn't able to kill the weakest of their mobs, but I had absolutely no chance of even making a dent. And, I didn't even have TT equipment. It was a breerM1a with pixie armor. Their the ones who lied, not me. This game is incredibly expensive to skill up and I have chosen not to deposit, so it's not my fault if I can't afford to deposit large amounts of money to skill up to fight mobs that they said "anyone should be able to fight". If this is the first time that you've ever neg-repped someone, then I'm afraid that you have your own problems to deal with as my comment in no way deserves a neg-rep, though yours certainly does. However, I am not mean so I don't neg-rep people even when they do obviously deserve it.

Also, "ill thought out bullshit"? Come'on, you clearly have issues that you need to deal with. My words were well-thought-out and constructive. Certainly not "bullshit" either as I'm not the only one who has complained about this aspect of this event both in EU and on other forum posts.
 
Last edited:
pfesler said:
This is just a dick comment. If you have been playing a few years and you can't kill a feffox young...you're the problem, not MA.
Click to expand...

A problem: You're leaving out pretty much anyone below level 25 or so.

First, a matter of taste: I personally don't like regen mobs. As I don't have any really fast repairable weapon, I feel I lose a lot of ammo money when I use the gear I normally have (especially on old+).

Secondly, well the western cave. As Oleg wrote, it was obnoxiously far from TP. It would feel more even if either the caves were all far out, or if they were within at least TP(II) range of a teleporter, as this is the highest teleport chip that's generally available.

Also, maybe there should have been an even easier cave so that lesser skilled people could have had a chance (well of course dropping less big sacs, but nevertheless give a view of how the event looks like). To stop higher level players from using rockets and kill tons in a short time maybe a lesser dense spawn spread out in cave system (noob cave).

It would also had been nice if there was at least repair and TT either inside the cave or at the drill. At least at western cave it's a dull moment when ammo runs out.

As for reward, maybe then anyone who had killed at least say 5 feffox (including ones in the "noob cave") or turning in at least one sac could get a diploma for their efforts to help keeping calypso safe from renegade beasts then also those who weren't lucky to get in the prizelist would have feel some nice feedback.

Now after event is over, make the sacs tradeable. Maybe there are "lot owners" who'd like one next to their shopkeeper or something.

In beginning, there seemed to have been some sort of problem when a lot of players tried to enter at once. Maybe the internals what happens when a player enters an instance should be looked over (ie some queueing system preventing two players who click at about same time to try to enter same save). Maybe that a player clicks the teleporter, and then if not re-entering an instance there will be a waiting icon and the "enter request" will be queued up by server and player is automatically sent inside when server has assigned a (unique) cave to the clicker. Now (the first day) there were say 40 people constantly hammering on the televator pad because nothing happened (until 3 minutes after when an "internal error" or something like that showed up) - getting some feedback if it takes some time to get inside would be nice.

Time of event: It would had been nice if it were longer. I've heard that people in different countries get their paychecks different dates, but if you want at least Swedish depositors (getting paid 25th or 27th) more active, it's a good idea to stretch the event a bit through the month break.
 
Last edited:
Actually receive loot somewhere near to the PEDs actually put in.
 
i do agree to hard to hunt when loot is so bad for a example if i buy ammo for 350-400 ped and got no glob day after day and hardly any fe sacks. got back 100-150 ped ewry day and on that all the decay:scratch2:
 
Last edited:
I wish we had MF chips with competitive DPS to be able to participate.
As is now is chips at 42-48 DPS versus 200+ DPS of some tiered and amped weapons.
Killing process on big HP mobs using chips is frustrating slow.

Brawlers are probably in same situations too...
 
AkiranBlade said:
Actually receive loot somewhere near to the PEDs actually put in.
Click to expand...

mikej said:
i do agree to hard to hunt when loot is so bad for a example if i buy ammo for 350-400 ped and got no glob day after day and hardly any fe sacks. got back 100-150 ped ewry day and on that all the decay:scratch2:
Click to expand...

Yes, some more loot would be more than nice. At the moment I would not do such an Event again. My results are:

Looted 3877 sacs and saw no twin or mutated sac on the way. Did around 39 hours and 50 minutes and spent my time in the cat 2 and cat 3 caves.

Missed most of the HOFs and the result is a loss of 7500 peds. So Entropia did cost me around $18.7 per hour. Much more than the projected $1 per hour from MA several years ago. So for me the modified loot distribution means: Same chances of big losses as before, no more chances for BIG HOFs to compensate the losses.

Ciao, Armin
 
schaefer13 said:
Yes, some more loot would be more than nice. At the moment I would not do such an Event again. My results are:

Looted 3877 sacs and saw no twin or mutated sac on the way. Did around 39 hours and 50 minutes and spent my time in the cat 2 and cat 3 caves.

Missed most of the HOFs and the result is a loss of 7500 peds. So Entropia did cost me around $18.7 per hour. Much more than the projected $1 per hour from MA several years ago. So for me the modified loot distribution means: Same chances of big losses as before, no more chances for BIG HOFs to compensate the losses.

Ciao, Armin
Click to expand...

Didn't Kim explain what modified loot really meant? He said that the modified loot meant the normal loot pool/items for a creature have been changed temporarily to accommodate for events, etc.
 
Hypnotyk said:
Didn't Kim explain what modified loot really meant? He said that the modified loot meant the normal loot pool/items for a creature have been changed temporarily to accommodate for events, etc.
Click to expand...

Not really. Kim explained in the interview:

Kim: Well, Modified loot. The loot lists themselves, well if you can call them that. Were change so that you could find more specific loot on each creature. So it should be less generic than it was before. A large part of that still remains but something that we are working on. We don’t want people to get 20 small stacks, when hunting diakiba or whatever. It should be a few specific things like diakiba wool, maybe one specific enhancer component, and a couple of other things. And that’s mainly what we call modified loot. But maybe the players are referring to something else. I'm not sure.

Kim: Yeah and we did another thing during the TEN event as well, we simply increased the payout. So we took a smaller cut, that’s what we did. It was all for the benefit of the players.

Kim: Well, no exact percentage was decided, but we did increase the payout. And that has actually happened. We also reduced the volatility. And people may still have bad runs, but overall returns are actually better than they have been.
Click to expand...

So over all the loot should be better. Just in my case, I have been very unlucky.

Ciao, Armin
 
Dan59 said:
I wish we had MF chips with competitive DPS to be able to participate.
As is now is chips at 42-48 DPS versus 200+ DPS of some tiered and amped weapons.
Killing process on big HP mobs using chips is frustrating slow.

Brawlers are probably in same situations too...
Click to expand...

I second this. My earliest Entropian hunting dreams were of being a MF badass, but back then it was too expensive and the progression just didn't compare to guns. I also considered being a brawler, but the progression was no good there either. So I became a miner :scratch2:...who also occasionally hunted with BLP weapons.

With the implementation of the new MF system, I've almost abandoned BLP to focus on MF skilling simply because its more enjoyable. But, there's a ceiling to MF that hopefully will be gone (or at least moved up) by the time I skill to that level. I'm sure there are many who feel the same way. Those who are at your MF level are probably super frustrated by it.
 
Restricted instances.
Timer.
The other parts you can't improve, because they're the casino functions of the loot system.


ps: this wasn't an event that just anyone could win, that much is clear by the looking at the top10 list. Be more honest when promoting your events.
 
The fault is still yours. This game is free, granted. You may choose not to deposit. Thats fine. But they went and made some weak ass mobs that the vast majority of players can kill in fairly basic gear, and you want the right to complain and give feedback? Seems silly to me.

lol...


Also, you went in with breer m1a and pixie?

Did you really think this is a good idea? Be reasonable. They obviously can't make an instance full of weak punies (the only mob EVERYONE can kill). They trust that if they make a fairly weak mob, the people of the game will be intelligent enough to understand that "anyone SHOULD be able to kill this". You sir, are the sad avatar that has been playing as long as I have if not longer and are far outside the norm. I know several people who have never depo'ed a red cent and yet can easily kill the youngs. So you're lagging, and taking MA's words far too literally, then having the balls to complain about it.

I maintain my position that you are ignorant and whiny.

FlorencioNine said:
Hehe, mine is a dick comment? No good sir, mine was a true and real comment that many feel in EU and furthermore it was full of constructive criticism, not mean words. MA is the one who asked for feedback, I simply gave them mine and kindly asked that they consider it. My comments were not pushy or mean at all. If you want an example of a dick comment then take a look at your own. Picking on a person simply because they have some constructive criticism to give to the developers of a game that they enjoy and would like to see grow and become better. Furthermore, it is indeed their fault if they say and I quote: "This event is an event for ALL SKILL TYPES and GEAR TYPES" and then it clearly isn't by an extremely far margin. It would be one thing if I just barely wasn't able to kill the weakest of their mobs, but I had absolutely no chance of even making a dent. And, I didn't even have TT equipment. It was a breerM1a with pixie armor. Their the ones who lied, not me. This game is incredibly expensive to skill up and I have chosen not to deposit, so it's not my fault if I can't afford to deposit large amounts of money to skill up to fight mobs that they said "anyone should be able to fight". If this is the first time that you've ever neg-repped someone, then I'm afraid that you have your own problems to deal with as my comment in no way deserves a neg-rep, though yours certainly does. However, I am not mean so I don't neg-rep people even when they do obviously deserve it.

Also, "ill thought out bullshit"? Come'on, you clearly have issues that you need to deal with. My words were well-thought-out and constructive. Certainly not "bullshit" either as I'm not the only one who has complained about this aspect of this event both in EU and on other forum posts.
Click to expand...
 
Doer said:
I have one more thought for feedback. We've currently all got this mission opened, and i hate it when a mission just sits there opened and can't be finished properly (still have those crater missions i wasn't around to finish). How about giving everyone with any points on this mission a way to finish it, maybe even with a few tokens?
Click to expand...

feffox_trophy_head.jpg


LOL nothing says "Thank you" like a 1 PED gawdawfugly trophy.

"This is a trophy head of a Feffox, hang it in your house to show all your friends what a great hunter you are!"

BTW, option to "place" it isn't in context pop-up menu, so i don't think i could hang it in my apartment. It's just as well: it would petrify my pet daiki with fear--and he's already petrified. :eyecrazy:
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mac
pfesler said:
The fault is still yours. This game is free, granted. You may choose not to deposit. Thats fine. But they went and made some weak ass mobs that the vast majority of players can kill in fairly basic gear, and you want the right to complain and give feedback? Seems silly to me.
I maintain my position that you are ignorant and whiny.
Click to expand...

You really are a troll aren't you? You know, trolls aren't good for the overall growth and development of a society. Their words have no weight as they don't come from a source of any real meaning. Believe and act as you will; you will be ignored though.
 
Think before you say Flero... lol
 
Hey, this is new and interesting, a thread with complaints about loot! :laugh:

I could care less about the loot, I loose no matter what anyway, but at least if I'm loosing I want the game to be interesting to look at! I have to complain about the design of these mobs, it was total crap! I am not graphic artist, as you can tell ( proof! ) but I do know crappy mob design looks like, even I could probably do better than that, these things were terribad! This looks like you guys sent some drunk guy to some grade school class and said, "Hey kids, we're all out of ideas, free ice cream for the best new mob design!"

Please send your graphic artists back to mob design school, get them off the drugs their on, or give them some new drugs, I don't care, just please do something different! You might as well just put up a big blob out there with a hit box for people to shoot at. I went into the instance and laughed, I was like, is this really the fucking mob they came up with after all these years??? After my first CTD I said fuck it I can't look at these things anymore and went back to mission grinding. Come on, you have to be able to do better than this, right?!?
 
Last edited:
Mac said:
Hey, this is new and interesting, a thread with complaints about loot! :laugh:

I could care less about the loot, I loose no matter what anyway :laugh: but at least if I'm loosing I want the game to be interesting to look at! I have to complain about the design of these mobs, it was total crap! I am not graphic artist, as you can tell ( proof! ) but I do know crappy mob design looks like, even I could probably do better than that, these things were terribad :laugh: This looks like you guys sent some drunk guy to some grade school class and said, "Hey kids, we're all out of ideas, free ice cream for the best new mob design!" :laugh:

Please send your graphic artists back to mob design school, get them off the drugs their on, or give them some new drugs, I don't care, just please do something different! :laugh: You might as well just put up a big blob out there with a hit box for people to shoot at. I went into the instance and laughed, I was like, is this really the fucking mob they came up with after all these years??? :laugh: After my first CTD I said fuck it I can't look at these things anymore and went back to mission grinding. :laugh: Come on, you have to be able to do better than this, right?!? :laugh:
Click to expand...

The world just ran out of :laugh:'s (<<< That was the last one.)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mac
Sunsout Gunsout said:
For new event I would:

Hold it in real life in a town somewhere in a country that allows alcohol once a year for 3 days. We would all be required to make card-board armor and wear blue underwear (for the guys) and guys with girl avatars would have to hire a girl to be their avatar, but they could stand by her and control her by proxy.
Click to expand...

I can see it now, a random guy walking down the street with 2 (or more) girls, someone goes up to him and points and accuses him of multi-accounting :D
 
bard119 said:
I can see it now, a random guy walking down the street with 2 (or more) girls, someone goes up to him and points and accuses him of multi-accounting :D
Click to expand...

It's ok to have alts in real life, though. :D
 
Bit offtopic but how the hell can you get this trophy? whenever i approach the mission broker it says "come back after 6. may" it is seventh now..
 
I saw it get a rare HOF the other day - Im imagining from a feffox queen or broodmother
 
Got my trophy head today

Broker worked was about before 13.00
 
Right after it says "come back after. may" close window and interact again.

whiteknut said:
Bit offtopic but how the hell can you get this trophy? whenever i approach the mission broker it says "come back after 6. may" it is seventh now..
Click to expand...
 
Timer, ofc!
(IIRC this event was initially planned to have no time limit, so that's probably why we didn't get a timer in the end).

Personally, I didn't fire a single shot on feffox because the way the scoring system was announced, immediately made me believe that this would be a pure 'luck' based kinda thing, where real gaming effort would not be required at all! That to me is no real competition! HOWEVER, I do agree and accept that a lot of players prefer it this way, so it's all good! :) I'll save my DPS for real competitions! :cool:
 
dRiFF said:
Right after it says "come back after. may" close window and interact again.
Click to expand...

Not helping.. 10times in a row still same message.
 
Oleg said:
Pros
  • Liked being able to choose which level nest we could enter instead of being forced into a certain level, made it better for eco hunters and also made it different to regular Mayhem.
  • Awesome prizes.
  • Nice design in the nests (mostly, see point about vine-wall below).
  • Like the concept of entering an instance to hunt even without an event attached to it, I'd like to see more of this especially tied in to missions.


Cons
  • Badly balanced difficulty of mobs meant almost everyone was hunting in west nest which seemed to cause problems for server load.
  • Balance of scoring possibilities appeared to clearly favour the easier mobs which exacerbated the server problems and was annoying for those of us who preferred to hunt the bigger mobs.
  • Sound/CTD bug could surely have been identified and fixed in advance.
  • Trapping exploit really needs to be sorted.
  • Less serious than trapping but revive killing in high level nests should probably have been prevented too.
  • Annoying barely-visible vine thingies making a wall you couldn't shoot through.
  • West nest too far from TP.
  • Possibly more thought could have been put into the order of the top prizes.
  • The prizes were arguably too good for an event that could be described as experimental, you could perhaps have tried this out with a smaller event and lesser prizes first.
  • System for handing in sacs in set quantities was really annoying, why can't I just dump all my sacs in at once?


Other suggestions for improvement
  • Make multiple versions of the lower level nests so that not everyone is in the same location or filling up the instance (not sure exactly how this works but I'm sure something could be done to help).
  • Add an iron challenge or similar to give more incentive to participate.
  • Timer system.
  • Make nests available for a few days before the event begins so that we can prepare and plan without using limited time (and without getting sacs of course).
Click to expand...

Great post, and Timer ones more ;)
 
whiteknut said:
Bit offtopic but how the hell can you get this trophy? whenever i approach the mission broker it says "come back after 6. may" it is seventh now..
Click to expand...

Bump for the problem. It is almost 10. may and mission broker still broken.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top