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There were 99 pages of apt's for sale when I purchased mine. Hey an ok deal for me at 200 ped (second hand), especially now that they have risen so high. Original offerings for them (B) at 250.

Also, you can go into fee expired 'Marcus Calandar' estates, where as you cannot in a player owned 'fee expired' one. Maybe I am wrong, but I have always thought "Marcus" was an MA entity/function like Simon or Emma etc? If thats the case maybe contact support and see if they will sell you one.

If anyone that just wants storage, but cant find an apartment buy a dang storage box! Heck buy a couple dozen. The storage terminal is much more convenient than having to run to an apartment (which is a glorified storage terminal :rolleyes:). [sarcasm]Hey... ought we not be paying a fee for this service too? Lose your crap when not kept current?[/sarcasm]

Anybody that feels they ought to lose their apartment without keeping the fee's ahead, I suggest that you be an honest bloke and out of the purity of your heart - offer it up to the general public when you have went behind in the fee's - Dont have one? STFU! Got one? Be an example.

As far as the maintenance fee goes, I wish there were an option for a one time fee to cover it.
 
AlphaGeek said:
Nope, not being sarcastic. MA spent time developing the code for apartments, spent time doing the artwork, 3d modeling, etc, etc. Part of the business plan for doing that included an expected revenue based on the income from the montly fees that some deadbeats refuse to pay.

Tell ya what.. lets add it up!

10 PEDS x 8 apartments = 80 PED per level

roughly 20 levels per building = 1600 PED per building

24 buildings total= 38+K PED per month in rent.

I don't know where you live, but where I live that's a nice chunk of RL change.


Because of many of these people aren't paying, MA has to end up cutting corners someplace... So don't bitch about crappy loot if you ain't paying the piper.

AG
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I do see your point AG. And I do feel somewhat that the system is flawed, however I don't think any alternatives at this point would be better. But I don't think an extra $3,800 would be of big concern to MA after reading their annual report. I could see them amending the apt system as leverage when it comes time for them to nickel and dime. I think collecting fees from stores that don't pay rent might be more beneficial as I believe some stores are 300 ped per month which is the same as 30 apts.

And I really wasn't used to someone looking at things from MA's financial point of view, so thats why I thought you were being sarcastic. Not because I'm a complete ass hole ;)
 
L7 if you add that 38K ped per month for the apartment rent, and then add the stores on top of that then multiply by 12, I think you've got something that comes close to annual salary for a tier 1 support person in many corners of the globe, possibly with some change left over.

And you're right. MOST players don't bother to look at the overall state of the game with an eye toward MAs financials. We have to remember that they are a business that needs to continue to make at least a modest profit if we players are to continue the colonization of Calypso.

AG
 
It would perhaps be better if it was done this way:
The fees for having an apartment (or house or shop) should be decreased (perhaps halved) but they should be obligatory. For example, if you own an apartment the rent should be 5 PED per month instead of 10 PED per month, but you have to pay every month. This would mean that an apartment cost 60 PED per year instead of 120. SO even if you go on holiday for a couple of months it will still be cheaper.
How can MA enforce monthly payments? They can't, but they could do this:
If you do not pay the monthly rental then you cannot access the apartment (or sell it) until you have paid. So, for example, if you miss three months and the want to sell it you first have to pay the 15 PED. If you just want own an apartment but don't want to use it then there will be no difference.
OK, so what are the objections to this? I can't think of any.
 
GeorgeSkywalker said:
its a bad idea. i have three apartments and yes i pay rent on all three and use all 3.

What if i take a break from the game (go to hospital or something untinkable as that may be) and come back to find all my valuables have disappeared and my apartments gone!

I'd be ruined :(

So to avoid this if this rule is in place i would have to not store anything in my apartments especially not anything valuable and not pay the rent just in case i do loose it. This offcourse defeats the whole point of me having the apartment in the first place !
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You changed my mind ... Good Argument.. I have actually left the game for up to 6 months too and would have hated to los my apartment, although I paid my rent 1 year in advance. I see your point.
 
Something should certainly be done about the housing situation, that much is for certain.

I've long since advocated a system by which we could construct our own housing.

I've also advocated being able to "take over" housing such as those "left" by Umbranoids - by killing them off, looting the Deeds, and driving them back to.. where ever they come from in the first place.

Finally, I advocate a modification to Estate Terminals - specifically this:

Any estates that fall into the unseen hands of Marcus the Estate Broker should NOT have a standard estate terminal, but rather a terminal that either:

a. Has a Place Bid option, thus allowing people to make offers on the countless number of estates, land areas, shops and apartments in his holding.

or b. Automatically place these into Auction.

I cannot ever recall seeing Marcus online, though I cannot be on 24/7.
I also cannot recall anyone I know ever seeing Marcus online either.

He certainly does not maintain any of the LA's he holds, as all of the ones I've seen have long since dwindled to minimal spawn and minimal maturity.

He does not stock any of the shops he holds - all stand empty.

Thus I say he does us all a great disservice by not "brokering" any of these estates.
 
Indigo Wyrd said:
I've also advocated being able to "take over" housing such as those "left" by Umbranoids - by killing them off, looting the Deeds, and driving them back to.. where ever they come from in the first place.
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Owning an umbranoid cottage would be nice.

However, I'm a bit pessimistic - I got a feeling that eventually most of the "estate deeds" will end up in some estate reseller's shopkeeper (or on auction) rather than being used by someone who is active ingame [active besides passive trading then]. Especially since there will be relatively few houses that would be released this way as compared to the number of "investors" out there.

There are other things that have to be done first, for instance get the commerce running in the shops down in "thorkils cave", get commerce running by the market booths in Hadesheim North, get the commerce running by the market booths on Crystal Palace (it would be an ideal place for a good crafter to sell items like Apis, Bulltac 80 and such - but I suspect most of the sold booths at CP are owned by resellers).

In the long run, something has to be done when it comes to inactive estates, I think. When it comes to shops - for buyers, to reduce number of "closed" shops - for sellers make it easier to get hold of a shop; for housing, the market need to be revitalised - furniture crafting is currently a dead end since all apartments are practically sold and used for what the buyer intended to do with them; there are no new (cheap) apartments that would get sold to new players to widen the market.

Maybe the implementation of cryengine kind of will solve this, if it comes with new planets and/or new housing areas on Calypso (with *affordable* housing options and limiting the reseller hoarding).
 
most shops are on estates...

most shops are on LAs owned by players. I don't know how exactly it works, but I think owners of the LAs (like the malls, TI, etc) got the deeds for the shops/apartments first and can sell them off?!?.. not sure if that's how it works or if MA did it all?...anyways, MA should have made that a rental deal, not a sale deal - so like if mall shops are not working right, mall owner could get back the mall estate deed if shop owner didn't pay up rent for x months or something... or could repossess apartment deeds after x months of no rental payments... not leave the estate deeds in limbo - possibly sitting in a shopkeeper at an ungodly high price in some reseller's estate shop... MA messed up when they implemented the system, and now they have shot themselves in the foot since they can't go back and change it without making someone mad about how to resolve the issue... which kind of sucks. I'm hoping they have a better solution on the new planets if any of those have LAs or properties.
 
Indigo Wyrd said:
Something should certainly be done about the housing situation, that much is for certain.

I've long since advocated a system by which we could construct our own housing.

I've also advocated being able to "take over" housing such as those "left" by Umbranoids - by killing them off, looting the Deeds, and driving them back to.. where ever they come from in the first place.

Finally, I advocate a modification to Estate Terminals - specifically this:

Any estates that fall into the unseen hands of Marcus the Estate Broker should NOT have a standard estate terminal, but rather a terminal that either:

a. Has a Place Bid option, thus allowing people to make offers on the countless number of estates, land areas, shops and apartments in his holding.

or b. Automatically place these into Auction.

I cannot ever recall seeing Marcus online, though I cannot be on 24/7.
I also cannot recall anyone I know ever seeing Marcus online either.

He certainly does not maintain any of the LA's he holds, as all of the ones I've seen have long since dwindled to minimal spawn and minimal maturity.

He does not stock any of the shops he holds - all stand empty.

Thus I say he does us all a great disservice by not "brokering" any of these estates.
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:duh: Umbranoids were here first! What's next? taking their hunting grounds and kill the buffalos?
 
NoRC said:
During some estate housing today I noticed that after an hour of trawling around the towers at Omegatron buildings and after extensive searching and seeing not a soul around i concluded that MA really needs to address the housing available vs. housing thats just sitting there.

My thoughts are and feel free to comment etc...

Estates should default if the monthly fee hasnt been paid in 6months and contents should be moved to storage, and the appartment put up for auction again. Perhaps a email notifyin the owner they are over due by 6months and give them another month to get up to date before the appartment is sold.

This would at least open up more income for MA , i saw over 30+ appartments with 'overdue' payments on the maint fees. I went from floor to floor checkin all apartments estate terminals.

Whats everyone elses thoughts on this?
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so if u go on holliday irl for to long i may take ur house and sell it.
and the money its sold for is for ur country's tresure chest ?

.... because that is presicely the same u are sugestion with ingame houses.

u buy something and then its taken away from u .............
is evrything working allright in ur brains.
and there are enough appartments for sale evry week.
and ma makes enough money from it allready without convestcating ppls houses


stupid stupid idea
 
Indigo Wyrd said:
Something should certainly be done about the housing situation, that much is for certain.

I've long since advocated a system by which we could construct our own housing.

I've also advocated being able to "take over" housing such as those "left" by Umbranoids - by killing them off, looting the Deeds, and driving them back to.. where ever they come from in the first place.

Finally, I advocate a modification to Estate Terminals - specifically this:

Any estates that fall into the unseen hands of Marcus the Estate Broker should NOT have a standard estate terminal, but rather a terminal that either:

a. Has a Place Bid option, thus allowing people to make offers on the countless number of estates, land areas, shops and apartments in his holding.

or b. Automatically place these into Auction.

I cannot ever recall seeing Marcus online, though I cannot be on 24/7.
I also cannot recall anyone I know ever seeing Marcus online either.

He certainly does not maintain any of the LA's he holds, as all of the ones I've seen have long since dwindled to minimal spawn and minimal maturity.

He does not stock any of the shops he holds - all stand empty.

Thus I say he does us all a great disservice by not "brokering" any of these estates.
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not even considering making a real answer.
dont ppl have brains ?
 
majorputty said:
HELL NO !!!!!!!!!


Leave my apartment alone.

There are some available in the action if you want.
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Then pay your rent.

I own a G apartment on the planet and an H on CND - I make sure my rent is paid on both properties. I think others should too. Just my opinion.
 
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