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Question: Frontier adjusted tier 1.0 price of materials

MartinXVI

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So I got decent TIR frontier 197/200 and thought I would tier it just for fun, after 2 days of hunting I got it to 0.99 and it blows my mind how expensive it is.

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That's 1200 ped TT of materials, that can't be right... right ? :LOL:
 
You get the tt back in shrapnel , the only cost is in MU so might have to determine cost of Mu
 
its almost as if tiering costs were never updated to loot 2.0's model... :)
 
The weapon stats, and these tiereng materials, seem to have been invented by some IA.
 
MartinXVI said:
So I got decent TIR frontier 197/200 and thought I would tier it just for fun, after 2 days of hunting I got it to 0.99 and it blows my mind how expensive it is.

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That's 1200 ped TT of materials, that can't be right... right ? :LOL:
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It is the MU of the materials that matters, you will get the TT back. Did you look at the MU costs?
 
Too late to change it :cool:
 
The tier cost is based on DPP, Eff, Range and DPS, maybe something else too.


The DPP of this weapon is very high,

MA seems to have forgotten that's how the tier cost works.


Making THE webshop starter weapon use materials worth 66 THOUSAND peds to tier to 10, seems like a bit of a woopsie to me.


I instantly bought this weapon when it was released, only to realize how expensive it was to tier. My initial plan was to tier it to 10, just for fun.


Seeing the tier cost, i honestly wasn't even shocked.


What a way to welcome new players, MA!

They are gonna love the tier system after seeing your absolute fuck up with this weapon, the melee (which was fixed, thankfully, amp and scope/laser sight....) and also the clothes not working properly with the armor.


Come on, give a damn please.


How f*cking lazy can you be? Announcing a new web shop item pack and more items in the pack is broken than not.
 
gal said:
Mindark, DO NOT solve this issue by lowering the DPP of the Frontier rifle. Thankyou.
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the whole point of the weapon was that it had great economy, to make it cheaper for beginner players.


then they have 1200 TT material cost to tier it to 1, is such a classic trollolol move by MA.


It would not surprise me though if they did actually change the DPP to "fix" the tier cost, which would be even more annoying.
 
ChairmanEdgewise said:
It would not surprise me though if they did actually change the DPP to "fix" the tier cost, which would be even more annoying.
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You and me are in agreement. It is easier than changing the tier system. Mindark need to be told that players would rather have the high DPP than being able to tier this gun cheaply.
 
Might be an unpopular opinion but kinda think it should have high tier costs. It's crazy efficient and a starter weapon to help new players have a higher initial return to have a more positive start. It's not meant to be used long term
 
Upgraded one to tier 1 and got 1197 shrap back

Will see what it costs to get to tier 2 soon
 
ChairmanEdgewise said:
The tier cost is based on DPP, Eff, Range and DPS, maybe something else too.
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DPP is HEAVILY used in the formula as well. I don’t believe range matters, dps minimally and same with eff.
If I had to guess it’s like 99% dpp .5% eff .5% dps(maybe)

look at the 90% eff 2.xx sword from twen. The tiering costs on that is LESS than mid range loot 1.0 items
 
Jan van de Ven said:
Upgraded one to tier 1 and got 1197 shrap back

Will see what it costs to get to tier 2 soon
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Just use the formula. Only need to know 1 tier to math the rest. I’m sure one of the wikis already has it. Off the top of my head I’d guess about 800p mu.

There is ZERO reason to tier as the dmg enhancers won’t let you hunt anything else and the acc enh don’t matter as they cost so much, the dpp change isn’t enough to make it up
 
ChairmanEdgewise said:
The tier cost is based on DPP, Eff, Range and DPS, maybe something else too.


The DPP of this weapon is very high,

MA seems to have forgotten that's how the tier cost works.


Making THE webshop starter weapon use materials worth 66 THOUSAND peds to tier to 10, seems like a bit of a woopsie to me.


I instantly bought this weapon when it was released, only to realize how expensive it was to tier. My initial plan was to tier it to 10, just for fun.


Seeing the tier cost, i honestly wasn't even shocked.


What a way to welcome new players, MA!

They are gonna love the tier system after seeing your absolute fuck up with this weapon, the melee (which was fixed, thankfully, amp and scope/laser sight....) and also the clothes not working properly with the armor.


Come on, give a damn please.


How f*cking lazy can you be? Announcing a new web shop item pack and more items in the pack is broken than not.
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I pulled TIR 1/200 and it was so good.
Isn't TIR 1/200 so rare!? I wanted to make tier 10 but gave up after seeing the tier 1 cost.
The tier up cost is not that different from my mayhem bp-110imp, so I can't even think about it.
I think I should finish tiering up Z12 Barbarella, which stopped growing at tier 8 :)
 
I didn't know the formula of tiering but it makes sense now
I agree the statement if it's a premium item it should be expensive to tier it up. So yeah I would rather keep it as it is with the nice eco (newbies really needed that since there is simply no super eco option on that level) and the DPS of this gun doesn't really unbalance the economy in my opinion.
 
This weapon was probably not even meant to be tiered. It is a starter pack weapon made for starters to give them a good start in the game.
It is not meant for the larger community to give them cheaper "Azuros". I would say its quite fair from MA's part to make it expensive to tier.
 
Sw4g MaSt3r said:
Yes It should cost a fair bit to tier up but this ^^ is a piss take. take a zero off the tiering cost at least.
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I disagree, it's a fantastic rifle and people wanted a way to increase the economy well here it is using all these mats if someone so wishes to tier it.
 
well Barbarella is a 60 eff item and it cost 30 ped TT
want to make it 100 tt?
those numers should be divied by 10 at least
moreover we are talking about a useless 10 MA DPS at tier 10
that means you can just hunt Pleaks with it
definitely not worth
 
Timp44 said:
I disagree, it's a fantastic rifle and people wanted a way to increase the economy well here it is using all these mats if someone so wishes to tier it.
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I seen somewhere its like 66,000 PED in mats to tier it. you think these starter players are going to even afford it let alone have the desire to? $6,600 to unlock some enhancer slots on the most basic gear in a game, that you paid $20 to get is in fact a p*** take.
 
Sw4g MaSt3r said:
I seen somewhere its like 66,000 PED in mats to tier it. you think these starter players are going to even afford it let alone have the desire to? $6,600 to unlock some enhancer slots on the most basic gear in a game, that you paid $20 to get is in fact a p*** take.
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Where did I say anyone was going to tier to 10?? Many WILL tier to 1 or 2 out of simple curiosity.

The fact you assume I was talking about tier 10 is the "p*** take"
 
Timp44 said:
Where did I say anyone was going to tier to 10?? Many WILL tier to 1 or 2 out of simple curiosity.

The fact you assume I was talking about tier 10 is the "p*** take"
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my apologies for looking at the whole picture. and not assuming everyone will half arse it :eek:
 
They prob just copypasted a high end armor, recolored it and gave it new stats.. Forgot to change tier costs.
 
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Sw4g MaSt3r said:
my apologies for looking at the whole picture. and not assuming everyone will half arse it :eek:
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Not tiering the new barbarella to t10 is half arsing it? :D


This gun is so good it should not get to t10. It should be discouraging to play at this level for too long... the DPS is too low and ppl are missing out too much on other hunting grounds. Besides, all the mats can be farmed so people don't acually have to pay anything, they can farm the mats themselves by playing the game. Especially the first few tiers... It would take a while, but with tt tools even Opals and others can be mined in space.
 
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