- Jun 24, 2012
- Avatar Name
- -Saphire of Dark-
So the ''officials'' are not "renting" anymore, they come in person to serve you. It seems the forgotten time passed really quick since the DannyO case.
I think this misunderstanding when it comes to insta-tp were when DME should jump to Caly to hand out a price fromSome clarifications;
This live stream is all completely visible here -( I will also save it so it doesn't drop off in 30 days for anyone reading this thread in the future) .
The context -
As you can see from the title of the stream, its purpose was "Pre-Planet Partner VU info". I had been working the past couple of weeks on gathering all of the public information available to be able to showcase what we could expect, hope for and discuss for the up coming VU. The planet partners were in the stream, as they often are in many streams, to help answer questions or clarify misconceptions ( or me just talking rubbish!).
I had planned to stream from Next Island, however whilst booting up the stream I wasn't paying enough attention and got warp mined - private flight, me going to NI to stream. As the stream is on a schedule, I had to go live anyway.
What happened -
Instead of Molochs as planned, the first hour of the stream is me repairing the ship, whilst trying my best to not allow the pirates to derail the intentions of the stream. I was alone and trying my best to hold it all together, when the PP's popped in - both of whom planets were a topic of the stream.
Clarification on points raised -
- PPs were only on board whilst the ship was docked at the space station, not out in battle.
- PPs were not on guns at any point.
- I have no idea where this "insta-teleporting" lie comes in, at no point were passengers ( we didn't have any!) or myself insta-teleported anywhere
- In regards to advantage to get back to battle quicker, this is untrue. I spent over an hour faffing about with repairing inconsistently, it took a further hour before we decided where to go next. 2 hours into the stream was when I decided to fly again. In those 2 hours we had played mini games on stream, I had been afk on a break a couple of times, we had lots of chats whilst not repairing. There was absolutely no speed advantage gained. If anything we left the space station much later than usual due to covering the up coming VU items.
Just for some further information for those reading this thread having not watched what happened or aware of the characters involved- The OP is a pirate with nebula virus, however he doesn't hide this part which is refreshing. There are however several people on this thread who have been instrumental in the harassment and trolling of many genuine players in the game, these people are quite happy to see anyone trying to promote or encourage the game- get hurt and harassed to quite often extreme extents, and will often jump on any opportunity to make this happen.
We try tirelessly to promote the game, engage and help - yet it seems the more you do to promote our beloved game, the more hate that is generated. I cant win
4 people downloaded Entropia that I am aware of from that one stream alone. Countless others re-engage with the game when being welcomed back into the greatness that the community can be when not ripping each other to shreds.
I agree that officials should not help in battle or to cut down time to reengage in battle , this however was neither it was more mental support and showing presence on streamm while their upcomming ppvu was discussed.
Many others also remember this but nowadays it’s very inconvenient since this has become quite a nepotistic game. We who remember the ethical part of the company are now shuned and treated like evil doers.. “against the system” and dragged on the mud at every opportunityI remember a time where an Official from caly actually got "fired" cuz he in a drunk mode had spawned mobs on planet for the fun, so if he can get fired for something that can be fun for all, i wonder what is gonna be done when it something like this.
MA officials NEEDS to stay out of the game play. They are hired to help players that has issues ingame or to promote their planets. They are NOT babysitters for people. I wonder if it had been another MS if that ship had been offered the same service as is shown here?
And what is next? Is this gonna happen at LGs on land too? that one soc can have an PP stand there healing the soc trying to get the LG? Cuz honestly there is no diffence. Pvp is pvp, space or not.
The "other" said " I don't have a tool to help " & did not want one when offered. You and anyone else are of course free to interpret that anyway you wish, and what the wider implication may have been.The topic here is Planet Partners and their abilities. One popped up after you're shot down to assist in repairs. The other made it clear he was offered a repair tool and turned it down because he did not like the idea of asserting influence and was there to represent his planet as it was the planet on topic.
Having a planet partner repair a ship, so that ship can retaliate is on the lines if they sat at a revival terminal and gave you heals so you could go back out and fight. It's not right. To another point, they only saw the member repairing at the station. Nobody can say for sure what they did during the battle. The fact they were involved is the issue.
Many others also remember this but nowadays it’s very inconvenient since this has become quite a nepotistic game. We who remember the ethical part of the company are now shuned and treated like evil doers.. “against the system” and dragged on the mud at every opportunity
I pay to play just as much as anyone else here, have my own investments in the game… like me many many others do the same if not more…
Why do We not get any preferencial treatment like others?
Why does this even have to be a concern? It’s appalling to realize certain things get handed down for free to some, while to others it’s a monthly fee or anual fee or weekly fee or daily fee
couldn’t care less for the situation In which this issue manifested itself but this should be taken more seriously as it just shows lack of professionalism and ethos.
And for those saying it’s ok to do this: no PP ever puts fertilizer in my LA, maybe they should? Maybe I should start streaming too in order to get this and more services? You tell me if that’s ethical.
The fact you have to say the first paragraph says a lot more than any other argument out here these days sadly…Before I share my thoughts on this I just want to state that I do not dislike any of the people involved in this scenerio and I mean no malice against any one involved.
However I feel that even with the most innocent of cases that the optics on this are very bad. When any player becomes so friendly with a ma offical to the point where you see them helping you with your game play it just looks bad. It looks like you have an unfair advantage. Whether you are getting an unfair advantages doesn't even matter because doubt has been cast.
No mind ark official should cross the line between official and team mate. Having MA officials repairing a ship after it's been shot down by pirates makes the offical look more like a team mate and friend than someone on duty working for a real cash economy game.
Mind ark has a long history of shady stories about how officals helped other players gain unfair advantages in the game. This is a real cash economy and collusion of any sort is wrong and causes the player base to lose faith.
It just screams favortism. There are no ma employees standing at the revive of pvp4 waiting to heal players so they can get back out there. They shouldn't be on ships doing the same thing.
It's just like my current pet peeve where important information doesn't always get posted on the forum first for players to read about. It gets posted on private player discord channels and then passed along. It's not the way a company should be conducting business, especially in a real cash economy.
People go to jail in real life for collusion. Mindark if you are reading this perhaps you need to give your employees and planet partners proper training on what they can and should not do within their official roles when logged into the universe.
From ma officials loaning out their items, to repairing ships , it's just not a good look. We'll soon be celebrating 20 years of Entropia... how long does it take to learn from past mistakes?
we had no intentions of going back to kill the pirates. As stated previously they were only with us while the ship was docked at the station. They did not give us a time advantage as it was literally hours later that we made the decision to fly to the pirates.
No but there should be IMO. I have seen so many dedicated and excellent Entropia streamers out there who should be encouraged to continue to support the game.Is there now an Entropia affiliate program on Twitch?
They usually appear when a streamer is focussing content on their planet, and yes they appear in many streams or lurk in those with not such an active chat, helping where they can. I think we all should encourage this, for so long we complained of a lack of interaction, yet as soon as they begin to step up across all the platforms, the first thing we do is whineIf not why are planet partners appearing on a stream? Are they showing up on all streams now?
I agree, hence why the Boss waves events we make are advertised multi platform well in advance, open to all, no entry fee, no tickets, no registration, no level requirement, no skill requirement and we pay for all costs for travel, and organise the teams of lovely players who work tirelessly to make it all run smoothly.While we're at it, why are they allowed to spawn event and boss mobs for a streamer? It NEEDS to be posted in a public location like the planet splash page or forum with at least 24 hours notice so everyone can be involved so it is not an exclusive event.
In my time playing here I have never had a Planet Partner official come out to one of my event, on any of the four LAs I owned over the years, not once have I had a Planet Partner Official on the ship I owned, not once have I had a Planet Partner official in my stream. So I have to ask, if its not favoritism what is it?
Only foot toes can be seen from their... I can not say or I'll get banned, but you know what i meant to sayBonnie and JBK, thanks for all your effort and promotion of the game.
It is bound to generate jealousy and assumptions from outsiders (inside the game) but you can't let that bring you down.
I, amongst many many others in this game, appreciate your effort and promotion of the game.
I wish you had more recognition for it.
Did you not read Bonnie and JBK's reply, or watch the stream posted in this very thread?Yes. How is that related to PP official repairing ship for free in pvp event?