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How Much Money Can You Make Sweating?

If your comp is 550+ watts and you live in the US, odds are you're paying around 8 cents an hour for electricity.
After withdrawal fees, probably lost money while sweating
 
Jayce Savage said:
If your comp is 550+ watts and you live in the US, odds are you're paying around 8 cents an hour for electricity.
After withdrawal fees, probably lost money while sweating
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That applies to literally every video game though. You're not making money playing any other MMO either, you're just spending electricity. At least with sweating you walk away with 7 cents instead of 0 cents.
 
I think hes saying if you instead chose not to play at all, you would be 1 cent richer than if you did the sweating. and you could use that hour to do something more productive, like flip burgers for 20 bux an hour or something...
 
schneiw said:
I think hes saying if you instead chose not to play at all, you would be 1 cent richer than if you did the sweating. and you could use that hour to do something more productive, like flip burgers for 20 bux an hour or something...
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Yes I understand the point, but that logic applies to literally any hobby.

Maybe I should go flip burgers instead of writing this comment....
 
Gum said:
That applies to literally every video game though. You're not making money playing any other MMO either, you're just spending electricity. At least with sweating you walk away with 7 cents instead of 0 cents.
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There is some logic to this. I'll admit I came to EU years ago in part because I figured if I was going to spend a good chunk of time on the computer playing a game, it made sense to find a replacement that at least had the potential to have some income rather than being a complete sink.

Whether someone wants sweating to be their hobby though if definitely something for very specific personal taste.
 
You can forget it, this is a thing of the past. There was a time before vehicles existed, when sweat was in demand for making fuel for tp chips. Also, there weren't that many players yet. As the game grew, the race to the bottom was inevitable. From what I heard, market prices started around 12-14 ped per 1k sweat, when I joined it was 7, and I stopped sweating when it fell below 5. There are some videos out there like "X amazing ways to make money in Entropia" still recommending this, or fruit gathering and whatnot, but they are either outdated or unhelpful to begin with because they never consider your operational cost (electricity etc.) and opportunity cost (the money you lose by not spending your time more gainfully).

Now, this doesn't mean to dismiss the activity altogether, and there still is a need for it, but like every other resource which is easy to get, it gets farmed to total exhaustion. Sweat rings are social events which can be fun without pumping endless amounts of money into it. Groups and events are organised regularly, some are choosing big mobs for excitement, others easy targets for the best possible harvest. Meanwhile, you meet people and chat. Sweating alone for the hope of collecting some peds is about the most frustrating, desolate pastime imaginable. Unless you justify it with some form of meditation or whatever makes you feel good. Whichever way you look at it, if money is the goal and you can't spare even the smallest amount out of your pocket, then rethinking how you spend your time may be a better idea.
 
Jayce Savage said:
If your comp is 550+ watts and you live in the US, odds are you're paying around 8 cents an hour for electricity.
After withdrawal fees, probably lost money while sweating
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I have 3kw solar rig, no sweat cost here if i only sweat in daylight hours.
Sweating me a lambo.

Tbh though hardly sell sweat, like gave 40k to a dodgy insect dude on cyrene. He now wants 80k, should keep me busy another year.
Sweat market been dead and buried for long time, kinda like market for all filler mining/hunting mats, old looted weapons etc etc..... most loot these days goes to tt tbh.
Over supply, and insufficient demand on many,many things. Like arkadia... they need a new range of craftable weapons... effiiency on them currently sucks Santa's ass in comparison to like Aris, Armatrix etc. Nobody crafting Ark mats in general, dead economy (terra amps i guess still made).

Shrapnel was a sticking plaster solution to over supply, imho however economies game wide need big revamp to up demand.
 
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Gum said:
At least with sweating you walk away with 7 cents instead of 0 cents.
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Wow 7 cents. With other games u actually have some fun . Please dont tell me that sweating is fun as hell. But u use a bot and do something else in the meantime?
 
decent budget integrated graphics laptop running 80w max can run this game at near 60FPS on low if you're in it for the LONG term. (I bought a $200 Lenovo one for travel and to alleviate the strain on my gaming laptop since the fans run at full blast to open Google Chrome

no idea if UE5 will run on that but the plan from MA is to have the two clients run concurrently for the first year or two anyway.

Can also use it as an overnight crafting machine, chain those auto-craft BPs and you're good to go.


Disclaimer: I buy sweat
 
Hunting is more fun
 
The bitterness is impressive considering most of you clearly didn't watch the 1 minute video.
 
Play any other MMORPG instead of sweating if you want to make money while not actually playing the game and just sell on the black market. Shoot making 100s of accounts for raid shadow legends and just sell them with the doing the starter missions. Granted once again bots do most of this, but there's so many better ways to make money while having more fun playing games than sweating.

My google surveys I did for December which take less than 5 seconds every time netted me $8. Granted it's not much but shit, paid for a month of runescape membership for my ironman lol
 
Gum said:
The bitterness is impressive considering most of you clearly didn't watch the 1 minute video.
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To be fair, it's nothing to do with your video.

Mentioning economy here is similar to asking a group of old men outside a barbershop what they think about the government.
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
Play any other MMORPG instead of sweating if you want to make money while not actually playing the game and just sell on the black market. Shoot making 100s of accounts for raid shadow legends and just sell them with the doing the starter missions. Granted once again bots do most of this, but there's so many better ways to make money while having more fun playing games than sweating.

My google surveys I did for December which take less than 5 seconds every time netted me $8. Granted it's not much but shit, paid for a month of runescape membership for my ironman lol
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I never said that's what I wanted "if you want to make money while not actually playing the game." The video was just showing what you actually get from 1 hour of sweating since people ask about it. That's it.
 
There's another valid justification for Sweating which applies even to folks who have an explicit profit motive, namely compounding. Players who Sweat are often in a rapid growth stage of researching and absorbing tons of information about Entropia's features, systems, markets, etc., and brainstorming strategic ideas with other Sweaters. Many ideas won't ultimately result in sustainable profit strategies, but when one does, it's a lot better to have 1000 PED from Sweating than 10 PED to capitalize on it. A continuously compoundable opportunity which returns 131% per year (NOT per PED Card cycle and much less demanding) can turn 1000 PED into 100000 PED over 15 years.
 
TheOneOmega said:
Players who Sweat are often in a rapid growth stage of researching and absorbing tons of information about Entropia's features, systems, markets, etc.,
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This is false, most sweaters can't find there way out of a brown paper bag and the others are bots. Not all of them. But often is definitely not the correct word to use.
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
This is false, most sweaters can't find there way out of a brown paper bag and the others are bots. Not all of them. But often is definitely not the correct word to use.
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Calling most sweaters incompetent is a baseless claim.

Plenty of successful players started sweating and learned the economy because they had to optimize every PED. You don't become good at something by having unlimited resources. In fact, you learn by constraint.
 
Gum said:
Calling most sweaters incompetent is a baseless claim.

Plenty of successful players started sweating and learned the economy because they had to optimize every PED. You don't become good at something by having unlimited resources. In fact, you learn by constraint.
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Very small group fo them have become successful, me being one of them. But most are just watching a show/movie or playing multiple accounts/games etc and will not improve unless they get a lucky hit at some point.

You forget how many people have sweat versus people who even hit a global. And seeing first hand, yes the majority of people are incompetent in general. I see it every single day in game, on the forums, in real life. People still spreading false information about efficiency and dpp lmao.

So not just sweaters are incompetent but many non sweaters as well.
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
And seeing first hand, yes the majority of people are incompetent in general. I see it every single day in game, on the forums, in real life. People still spreading false information about efficiency and dpp lmao.

So not just sweaters are incompetent but many non sweaters as well
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Sadly have to agree. 😁
 
Angela Draniie Cloud said:
This is false, most sweaters can't find there way out of a brown paper bag and the others are bots. Not all of them. But often is definitely not the correct word to use.
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Whether the often form is true, false, or too noncommittal to call, I agree that it was not the best choice of words; it would be better to say that players who Sweat are paradigmatically in a rapid growth stage of researching and absorbing tons of information about Entropia's features, systems, markets, etc., or something like that.
Gum said:
Calling most sweaters incompetent is a baseless claim.
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Angela Draniie Cloud said:
most are just watching a show/movie or playing multiple accounts/games etc and will not improve unless they get a lucky hit at some point...I see it every single day in game, on the forums, in real life...So not just sweaters are incompetent but many non sweaters as well.
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There is some kernel of truth in Draniie's claim, but it risks conveying the wrong message for at least two reasons. Note that during an earlier era of Entropia, the claim would have been seen as obviously absurd, or a joke, as the Entropia community has traditionally been regarded as one of the most competent and excellent communities on the entire Internet.

The first issue is that competence is context-dependent. Short of really getting to know an individual beyond most common online interactions, it is hard to distinguish between incompetence and unapplied competence. It could be that modern Entropian development actually is selecting for incompetent new players, indeed likely those players least suited to deriving much value from the Entropia Universe concept, or it could be that it is merely signaling to new players that Entropia is not an environment to which applying competence is appropriate or worthwhile. Both are tragic, but it is hard to tell what proportions of each we're dealing with.

The second issue that is even to the extent the claim is true, the false implicature is that the outcome is either the fault of the community, or "just the way things are," whereas in fact on either interpretation of the first issue, it is largely the terrible downstream consequence of myopic development. Reiterating, the Entropia community has traditionally been regarded as one of the most competent and excellent communities on the entire Internet. It is, in the first moment, not the Entropian that is incompetent, but a distorted mental representation of the Entropian that has grown evermore cognitively nonfunctional with each passing year. It is the perception and presumption of the Entropian as incompetent when features and systems are designed which first blazes the destructive path; only then, in a hollowed universe which has consistently prioritized fixed over growth mindset, simplification and streamlining over interesting and thought-provoking tradeoff, mission/achievement/job/chore assignment over metagame, pre-bundling over compositionality and strategic causal interaction, intuition adherence over transformative creativity amenability, that the real Entropia community grows so torn between the Entropia Universe concept and modern Entropia Universe development practices that even some of us fail to find the competence emblematic of the traditional Entropian manifested anywhere in the wild.
 
You can also sweat while running xmrig to mine monero. Entropia only uses one core of your CPU.. lots of cores/threads left to mine monero. And crypto can be deposited ingame these days.
 
I try to mine crypto my pc melted literally that meant no more Entropia for me. I learned my lesson not to mine it. What I need to get into sweating anyway? What is a good ring and stuff
 
All the succesful sweaters make their main money from onlyfans, sweat pr0n pays!

If you want to avoid the Pr0n label, just make sure there is a bombardo, papplon, or any fruit in the pic, nudes with fruit are defined as art.
 
Equi said:
I try to mine crypto my pc melted literally that meant no more Entropia for me. I learned my lesson not to mine it. What I need to get into sweating anyway? What is a good ring and stuff
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I use Athenic ring for evade and Ares for reload , those 2 offer the best benefits and a decent crossover for swunting/hunting.

Always hoping that MA one day drops a sweaters ring with focus.
 
Bones said:
I use Athenic ring for evade and Ares for reload , those 2 offer the best benefits and a decent crossover for swunting/hunting.

Always hoping that MA one day drops a sweaters ring with focus.
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Interesting, I noticed if I try to sweat a hater on rock raw without any rings I will die so I assumed regen was the only way but it totally makes sense to take evade
 
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