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Be careful not to confuse a theory with a fact, likewise a hobby with a religion. :bowdown:

If what you currently do is working for you, the fastest way for it to stop working for you is to keep this thread going. ;)

Having said which, I am looking forward to your 4 digit HOF and naturally :xmas: Merry Christmas!
If my theories work for me great, but if it helps someone out, then so be it, kneel down and bow down before me :laugh: mwahahaha.

It seems Psyche can see merit in these conspiracy theories and he is not the only one, Zorander perhaps? We are not alone, we are many! Mwahaha.

Merry Christmas, you Mega Santa! 🎅
 

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Be careful not to confuse a theory with a fact, likewise a hobby with a religion. :bowdown:

If what you currently do is working for you, the fastest way for it to stop working for you is to keep this thread going. ;)

Having said which, I am looking forward to your 4 digit HOF and naturally :xmas: Merry Christmas!
The fact many people in this blog "suggested" to shut this thread down and stop spread info, makes me think author is actually on the right path and that info he privides is pretty leggit. I will test it out too
 

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The fact many people in this blog "suggested" to shut this thread down and stop spread info, makes me think the author is actually on the right path and that info he provides is pretty legit. I will test it out too
Haha, you are a very smart person, well done for reading in between the lines, go test it out! Oh btw, Messi promotes my threads ;)
 
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Thanks for the replies. I still read your ideas leading toward personal loot pool - you talk about the system will "pay you back,"
You said, " You will always lose ped and someone else will always grab it, but the game will correct this at some point. "
I don't agree, you can do what you say and still just always be that person where the guy next to me grabs it. Saying the game will correct it means that it is keeping some score of my personal activity, like "ok Davin has lost enough now, lets make sure he get a little back." It doesn't have to do this. I could hunt the same mob as you, same bank roll, same set up and I would bet we wouldn't get the same results- and I don't think you'd disagree.

I do agree with you that cycling more would lead to a more steady return, but I don't think that means it will be a higher return necessarily.
I see your suggestion of saving up and making a huge deposit and I KNOW that is the only real way I would make profit.
I'd have to deposit a large sum to buy a good UL weapon (maybe fap/rings too) and then pump out thousands of ammo.
I did stop playing and depositing for nearly a year due to the continual losses.
I WILL NEVER be able to deposit a thousand dollars at once - simply said I"m married and my wife will never go for that shit - unless I like win the lottery.

So I remain where I am, hunt berys all day, hunt 2-5 ped mobs and loose, or don't play at all.
There were 2 times I had over 10k in game in my 10 years and each time it was gone after 3 months. However they did lead to any of the UL items I have (armor and gun amp)
 

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Thanks for being honest with me and yourself, at least you know where you stand, either depo $200 or don't play. As long as you are having fun that is what matters? But if you keep shooting the loot/sine wave does correct itself, some loss and some win, its how it goes sometimes.
 
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I have spent quite some time revamping my How To Survive Log and it is now completed.

Though I specialise in hunting, there are other sheets for other aspects of the game.

You can check out the log here and please feel free to make a copy for yourself.

How To Survive Log
 
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Just a quick update!

Main Pointers!
So was hovering around 90% TT and about -70 PED on Exarosaurs, which is pretty rough.
Just did another run today and what a happy surprise, 12 peds global within first few kills.
Halfway through hit a 7 ped mini, towards the end hit a 31 ped global, last kill 2 ped mini.

Ammo CostOffence CostAttach CostDefence CostTT CostTT LootTT ReturnTT %
500.00249.1984.028.27841.48772.91-68.5791.85%
50.0024.938.400.7484.06122.1638.10145.32%

Additional Notes:
Now around 96.71% TT Returned and -10 ped after markup, the average markup on Exa is 3%.
Also managed to keep defence costs below the 1% mark, but not easily achieved with pistols!
The big question is, would I keep grinding Exa after finding out all of this data? Not advisable.
Unless you're somehow achieving 98% returns all the way, 3% markup is not very profitable.
Exarosaur is a great mob to skill upon, get a few codexes completed and try to break even!
If you're a serious hunter, definitely learn the swings for the creature you are hunting.
But this proves that Mob Deficits do exist; it is my way of saying sine wave mapping.
Additionally, if you are hunting Exarosaurs, try to keep a bankroll of 700-1000 PED.
The average cost to kill Young/Mature is 21 pecs, which means I killed 4000 mobs.

PS: I believe looter profs has more real weight on TT returns than efficiency does.
 
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Did you already sold all your loot from Exa and concluded the average MU of Exa loot is 3%?
I'm still stacking my loots and will calculate my average MU. Hopefully it'll be higher than 3% after I sell everything.
I'm also approaching 97% tt return. :( I had such a nice and lucky start too haha. But I expected it to go down eventually.
If the average MU of loot is 3% it would break even if we can maintain 97% return.
 

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Did you already sold all your loot from Exa and concluded the average MU of Exa loot is 3%?
I'm still stacking my loots and will calculate my average MU. Hopefully, it'll be higher than 3% after I sell everything.
I'm also approaching 97% tt return. :( I had such a nice and lucky start too haha. But I expected it to go down eventually.
If the average MU of loot is 3% it would break even if we can maintain a 97% return.
No, I didn't manage to sell everything, there was Tier Comps, Extractor, and leather that didn't sell? The 3% was on the stuff that did sell. I still have some frags left I need to shift, so I would imagine it would be a little higher average, but yeah hunting Exa you are looking to break even or a slight loss/profit.
 
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Did you already sold all your loot from Exa and concluded the average MU of Exa loot is 3%?
I'm still stacking my loots and will calculate my average MU. Hopefully it'll be higher than 3% after I sell everything.
I'm also approaching 97% tt return. :( I had such a nice and lucky start too haha. But I expected it to go down eventually.
If the average MU of loot is 3% it would break even if we can maintain 97% return.
97% * 1.03 (103%) = 99.91%
it's not quite as easy as matching you MU to your TT loss % but it's close

I've had no problem selling my tier 2 comps for decent MU, extractors are going too - albeit slowly, leather is a rough one.

Right now I'm sitting at 102.3% MU over about 15k kills but I haven't sold any blazar yet and still have a little bit of other loot. just selling the blazars @ 15p/k would put me a touch over 104% MU - so profit is possible if quite small. On 2716 PED cycled I'll have about 10 PED profit, lol.

P.S. A big part of the MU I've been able to get depends on getting the most out of your muscle oil since that makes up quite a large portion of your TT returns.
 

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The profit is possible but quite small, on 2716 PED cycled I'll have about 10 PED profit, lol.
I've managed to get 16p/k on auction which is good, but yeah hardly any profit on Exa lol.
I'll see how many blazars I have and liquidate final loots and I am going for another mob :).
 

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seems exas are just break even mob. If I end up to just break even after I liquidate my loots stacks and finish codex, then I'll probably switch mobs too. This place is too crowded. There's too many times where I accidently shoot someone's mob or someone shoots my mobs. I can't just relax and watch my youtube vids while hunting haha. I like berys, it was close to tp and auction. But I didn't track my loots for MU. Might go back to Berys and track MU and finish up the codex.
 
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Why do you not use an a101 or a102 for your laser amps? they increase dpp and efficiency by a decent bit so will be worth it long term.
 

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Why do you not use an a101 or a102 for your laser amps? they increase dpp and efficiency by a decent bit so will be worth it long term.
An a101 is listed in his gear from first post. I'm pretty sure he uses it.
 

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97% * 1.03 (103%) = 99.91%
it's not quite as easy as matching you MU to your TT loss % but it's close

I've had no problem selling my tier 2 comps for decent MU, extractors are going too - albeit slowly, leather is a rough one.

Right now I'm sitting at 102.3% MU over about 15k kills but I haven't sold any blazar yet and still have a little bit of other loot. just selling the blazars @ 15p/k would put me a touch over 104% MU - so profit is possible if quite small. On 2716 PED cycled I'll have about 10 PED profit, lol.

P.S. A big part of the MU I've been able to get depends on getting the most out of your muscle oil since that makes up quite a large portion of your TT returns.
I TT the cloth extractors. They wont sell to save my life!
 

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I TT the cloth extractors. They wont sell to save my life!
Yeah, they sell slow for sure. I'm posting them in small lots and selling maybe 1 auction a week, have had my auctions expire a couple times too. Honestly it's probably not worth the few extra PEC I get.
 
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