Leeloo's hunting log

Leeloo Miner · Sep 29, 2024

Occasionally I also go hunting but my main remains mining and my aim is definitely not to become an uber but rather if I can hunt without loss (after selling) or match this close.

As with my mining results, I give % and not peds, as this all differs a lot from your equipment. and imo it doesn't matter how much you spend (I do not believe in cycling), the outcome will be the same.

I will try to update monthly or when reaching a new codex rank :
What I hunt and codex rank
My equipment consisting of : armor - fab - weapons + cost
The return: TT - TT+%
As well as the loot composition

Also the most important skills such as :
Laser pistoleer (Hit)
Ranged laser (Dmg)
Evade/dodge ( I try to be minimum +20 levels higher than the mob)
Animal looter

EDIT :
Following this to understand evade : great guide
Usefull info tx to VII : entropianexus

Owke here we go

Snablesnot Rank 22

My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - TT gun

TT gun	Ammo	Refining
1,52%	98,45%	0,03%

Return

TT	TT+%
91,97%	99,23%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Wool	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak cloth	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
57,51%	3,86%	0,37%	0,00%	0,22%	0,19%	1,01%	0,28%	0,52%	5,08%	1,85%	0,35%	0,45%	6,58%	6,43%	15,80%	0,24%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 33
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31
Evade/dodge : 20/15
Animal looter : level 17

Leeloo Miner · Oct 9, 2024

Small update and doing ok

Snablesnot Rank 23
My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - TT gun - T-105 Refiner

TT gun	Ammo	Refining
1,46%	98,52%	0,03%

Return

TT	TT+%
93,31%	100,70%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Wool	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
59,79%	3,98%	0,49%	0,00%	0,15%	0,16%	0,94%	0,27%	0,50%	5,33%	1,62%	0,29%	0,37%	6,07%	5,92%	16,00%	0,30%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31
Evade/dodge : 20/15
Animal looter : level 18

Shadowsong · Oct 9, 2024

Leeloo Miner said:
Small update and doing ok

Snablesnot Rank 23
My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - TT gun T-105 Refiner

TT gun Ammo Refining
1,46% 98,52% 0,03%

Return

TT TT+%
93,31% 100,70%

Loot composition

Shrapnel Generic Soft Wool Thin Basic cloth Basic stone Basic wood Weak Skin Orange Gel Super charger Dil sweat Eye oil Muscle Nova
59,79% 3,98% 0,49% 0,00% 0,15% 0,16% 0,94% 0,27% 0,50% 5,33% 1,62% 0,29% 0,37% 6,07% 5,92% 16,00% 0,30%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31
Evade/dodge : 20/15
Animal looter : level 18

If I may ask, what maturities are you hitting, or does that not matter? I'm curious about the Codex gains... at 23 they must be agonisingly slow off snabbies.
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Leeloo Miner · Oct 9, 2024

Shadowsong said:
If I may ask, what maturities are you hitting, or does that not matter? I'm curious about the Codex gains... at 23 they must be agonisingly slow off snabbies.
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I'm hunting them S of Camp Phoenix so lvl 2-3, mainly young/mature (male & female) and some old up to a very rare provider.

Yes, skill gain is very slow, but I'm more interested in the returns, meaning if I can get around 100% after return with my sales numbers.

Just had a 22 pedder with a [Castorian Pioneer EnBlade-4 (L)] in it so that makes up a lot on such a small mob.

Shadowsong · Oct 9, 2024

Leeloo Miner said:
I'm hunting them S of Camp Phoenix so lvl 2-3, mainly young/mature (male & female) and some old up to a very rare provider.

Yes, skill gain is very slow, but I'm more interested in the returns, meaning if I can get around 100% after return with my sales numbers.

Just had a 22 pedder with a [Castorian Pioneer EnBlade-4 (L)] in it so that makes up a lot on such a small mob.

Thanks for the info. Awesome thread Leeloo - respect.

and :woot:

Gz

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Leeloo Miner · Oct 10, 2024

Shadowsong said:
If I may ask, what maturities are you hitting, or does that not matter? I'm curious about the Codex gains... at 23 they must be agonisingly slow off snabbies.
.

I just reached Codex rank 24 and I'm still getting around 20% up after a 50 ped run, so I guess 250 ped will do it to reach Codex rank 25.

The Codex can be done fast but the skills are sooooo slooooooow.

I'm tracking evade ... and every 50 ped I get around 0,50% up, so in the last run I went up from evade lvl 20 31,30% to evade lvl 20 31,80%

Vill · Oct 10, 2024

Leeloo Miner said:
I just reached Codex rank 24 and I'm still getting around 20% up after a 50 ped run, so I guess 250 ped will do it to reach Codex rank 25.

The Codex can be done fast but the skills are sooooo slooooooow.

I'm tracking evade ... and every 50 ped I get around 0,50% up, so in the last run I went up from evade lvl 20 31,30% to evade lvl 20 31,80%

L25 codex for snables is 250ped cycled. You can check codex amounts for mobs very easily at entropianexus

Rimmer · Oct 10, 2024

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Leeloo Miner · Oct 10, 2024

Vill said:
L25 codex for snables is 250ped cycled. You can check codex amounts for mobs very easily at entropianexus

Thank you very much !!! I'll add the data in my post.

Leeloo Miner · Oct 10, 2024

Snablesnot Rank 24 done

My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - TT gun - T-105 Refiner

TT gun	Ammo	Refining
1,52%	98,43%	0,05%

Return

TT	TT+%
96,02%	102,45%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Enblade-4	Wool	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak cloth	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
62,37%	4,25%	0,44%	1,90%	0,00%	0,16%	0,14%	0,99%	0,27%	0,50%	3,68%	1,48%	0,33%	0,35%	5,84%	5,17%	15,74%	0,41%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31
Evade/dodge : 20/15
Animal looter : level 18

What a job :wtg:

Leeloo Miner · Oct 20, 2024

When I am on NI for mining, I also hunt for the Village boar.
Unfortunately, most loot is very low % but with this set-up, it still seems possible to make some profit after selling.
Lots of new paints so far and lots of crystals that are worthless

Village Boar Level 3 - 5 Rank 6 done
How evade / dodge works
Cost to reach level 25 + info : Entropianexus

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31
Evade/dodge : 20 44,20% / 15
Animal looter : level 18

My equipment costs : no armor - TT gun + Z12 - Vivo S5 for emergency - T-105 Refiner

TT gun	Z12	Ammo	Vivo S10	Refining
1,12%	0,30%	98,57%	0,00%	0,01%

Return

TT	TT+%
96,88%	101,36%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Oil res	Generic	Socket 1	Tier 1	Wool	Soft hide	Boar head	Boar tail	Muscle oil	PC carrot	PC pale green	PC pale Ivory	PC lime green	PC grellow	PC Blue	PC Blurple	PC Miranda	Celes stone	Adamite	Fluo crystal	Nova crystal	Tanza crystal	Diluted cloth
35,04%	9,32%	0,24%	1,18%	0,56%	5,71%	0,30%	6,59%	6,08%	11,99%	1,37%	0,16%	0,06%	1,55%	0,22%	0,03%	0,60%	0,07%	2,81%	2,98%	4,71%	7,54%	0,29%	0,05%

Leeloo Miner · Oct 25, 2024

Snablesnot Rank 25 done

My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - TT gun - T-105 Refiner

TT gun	Ammo	Refining
1,55%	98,41%	0,04%

Return

TT	TT+%
95,00%	101,67%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Enblade-4	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak cloth	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
61,22%	4,38%	0,78%	1,51%	0,19%	0,13%	0,94%	0,28%	0,48%	3,70%	1,56%	0,36%	0,27%	5,93%	5,27%	15,64%	0,60%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31
Evade/dodge : 20 49,50% /15
Animal looter : level 18

Your sales % makes you loose or win but the profit margin here is smaller then with mining.

Leeloo Miner · Nov 5, 2024

Snablesnot Rank 25 done + 1st Repeat @ 4%

My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - no pet - no taxes - no MU - TT gun - T-105 Refiner

How evade / dodge works
Cost to reach level 25 + info : Entropianexus

TT gun	Ammo	Refining
1,57%	98,39%	0,04%

Return

TT	TT+%
92,83%	99,37%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Enblade-4	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak cloth	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
59,73%	4,19%	0,72%	1,32%	0,16%	0,15%	0,89%	0,31%	0,48%	3,73%	1,52%	0,38%	0,23%	6,09%	5,21%	15,26%	0,58%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34 38,50%
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31 82,40%
Evade/dodge : 20 51,90% / 15 49,20% (2 1/2 more levels to reach my goal)

Animal looter : level 18 28,10%

Leeloo Miner · Jan 14, 2025

My first run in 2025

Snablesnot Rank 25 done + 1st Repeat @ 5,70%

My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - no pet - no taxes - TT gun - T-105 Refiner

TT gun	Ammo	Refining
1,57%	98,39%	0,04%

Return

TT	TT+%
92,74%	99,26%

Loot composition

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Enblade-4	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak cloth	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
59,59%	4,09%	0,68%	1,24%	0,16%	0,14%	0,87%	0,33%	0,47%	3,76%	1,52%	0,37%	0,22%	6,42%	5,14%	15,29%	0,59%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 34 42,90%
Ranged laser (Dmg) : 31 89,10%
Evade/dodge : 20 56,30% / 15 54,80% Goal is to reach lvl 23 evade
Animal looter : level 18 39,20%

Must admit, it's very stable.

Leeloo Miner · Feb 5, 2025

Prototype Defender Rank 5 Reached

My equipment
Full [Cyrene Disciple Chest Guard (F)] seems best
[Vivo S10] if needed
[Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] DPP 2938
No pet - taxes - pills

Cost to reach lvl 25 : Entropianexus

Loot composition and returns

Z12+ZX

Ammo

Armor

VivoS10

Armor+heal

TT

TT+%

Shrapnel

Isis LLP1

Isis LLC1

Nano ML1

Azuro

Kin Nano Mk1

B-101

Isis LBP 1

EP-2

Skildek

Corvus

1,96%

96,68%

0,99%

0,36%

1,36%

71,26%

80,16%

66,08%

0,00%

1,88%

0,00%

0,49%

0,00%

2,81%

Turrelion

1,96%

95,92%

1,93%

0,20%

2,13%

71,95%

77,99%

65,19%

6,69%

0,00%

4,07%

0,00%

0,31%

0,00%

1,45%

Canis

1,96%

96,01%

1,83%

0,20%

2,04%

76,33%

83,12%

70,98%

0,00%

4,59%

0,00%

0,16%

0,24%

0,35%

Cyrene

1,94%

95,36%

2,69%

0,00%

2,69%

98,51%

127,48%

79,10%

8,76%

27,57%

0,00%

5,41%

0,00%

0,12%

7,57%

0,08%

1,02%

Hunting skills
Laser sniper (Hit) : level 29 14,80%
Dodger : 15 70,90%
Robot looter : level 11 57,30%

Leeloo Miner · Feb 11, 2025

Prototype Defender Rank 6 Reached

My equipment
Full [Cyrene Disciple Chest Guard (F)] seems best
[Vivo S10] if needed
[Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] DPP 2938
No pet - taxes - pills

I also decided to use enhancers
For the weapon, I'm using Eco : [Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] T2 and [Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] T3
For the Cyrene Armor Dura : up to T1 only so far

Cost to reach lvl 25 : Entropianexus

Loot composition

	Z12+ZX	Eco enh	Ammo	Armor	Dura enh	VivoS10	Armor+heal	TT	TT+%	Shrapnel	Isis LLP1	Isis LLC1	Isis LBP 1	Isis LBC 1	Ener Nano	Kin Nano	Azuro	B-101	EP-2	Skildek

Corvus	1,96%		96,68%	0,99%		0,36%	1,36%	71,26%	80,16%	66,08%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	1,88%	0,49%	0,00%	2,81%
Turrelion	1,96%		95,92%	1,93%		0,20%	2,13%	71,95%	77,99%	65,19%	6,69%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	0,00%	4,07%	0,31%	0,00%	1,45%
Canis	1,96%		96,20%	1,81%		0,03%	1,84%	85,32%	94,00%	86,39%	1,77%	0,00%	1,73%	3,45%	0,00%	0,00%	4,11%	0,28%	0,27%	1,02%
Cyrene	1,95%	0,00%	95,54%	2,51%	0,00%	0,00%	2,51%	99,52%	107,09%	81,74%	6,72%	4,18%	1,93%	1,17%	0,00%	0,00%	2,77%	0,22%	0,31%	0,97%

	Z12+ZX	Eco enh	Ammo	Armor	Dura enh	VivoS10	Armor+heal	TT	TT+%	Shrapnel	Isis LLP1	Isis LLC1	Isis LBP 1	Isis LBC 1	Ener Nano ML1	Kin Nano Mk1	Azuro	B-101	EP-2	Skildek
Totall	7,83%	0,00%	384,34%	7,24%	0,00%	0,59%	7,83%	328,04%	359,25%	299,41%	15,18%	4,18%	3,66%	4,63%	0,00%	0,00%	12,83%	1,29%	0,58%	6,24%
Average	1,96%	0,00%	96,09%	1,81%	0,00%	0,15%	1,96%	82,01%	89,81%	74,85%	3,79%	1,04%	0,91%	1,16%	0,00%	0,00%	3,21%	0,32%	0,14%	1,56%

So far, only hunts with Cyrene armor are giving me decent returns

Cycling

Totall Cost	TT return	TT+%
1167,0273	1072,0445	1165,1336
	91,86%	99,84%
	-94,9828	-1,8937

Hunting skills
Laser sniper (Hit) : level 29
Dodger : 16
Robot looter : level 11

Leeloo Miner · Feb 15, 2025

Prototype Defender Rank 7 Reached

My equipment
Full Cyrene Disciple armor seems best
[Vivo S10] if needed
[Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] DPP 2938
No : pet - taxes - pills - buffs

I also decided to use enhancers
For the weapon, I'm using Eco : [Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] T2 and [Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] T3
For the Cyrene Armor Dura : up to T1 only so far

Cost to reach lvl 25 : Entropianexus

Results from different armors

	Z12+ZX	Eco enh	Ammo	Armor	Dura enh	VivoS10	Armor+heal	TT	TT+%

Corvus	1,96%		96,68%	0,99%		0,36%	1,36%	71,26%	76,43%
Turrelion	1,96%		95,92%	1,93%		0,20%	2,13%	71,95%	77,99%
Canis	1,96%		96,20%	1,81%		0,03%	1,84%	85,32%	92,38%
Cyrene	1,95%	0,00%	95,34%	2,47%	0,00%	0,00%	2,47%	93,85%	100,15%

From here on, I'm ONLY using Cyrene armor cause this give the best results in return.

Loot composition
I do get those ener - kine nano's, only the amount is very low.

Shrapnel	Isis LLP 1	Isis LLC 1	Isis LBP 1	Isis LBC 1	Ener Nano	Kin Nano	Azuro full	azuro	B-101	EP-2	Skildek
82,05%	4,95%	3,08%	2,95%	1,96%	0,00%	0,00%	2,92%	0,22%	0,24%	0,42%	1,20%

Cycling with Cyrene armor only

Z12+ZX	Eco enh	Ammo	Cyrene	Dura enh	VivoS10	Totall Cost	TT TT return	TT+% Return
1,95%	0,25%	95,34%	2,47%	0,00%	0,00%	913,4251	857,2148	914,80
							93,85%	100,15%
							-56,2103	1,38

Selling loot or how to stay positive

Most of the weapons that you get in the loot of these proto defenders are almost impossible to sell.
To still get some profit out of this and not waste my peds on fee trying to sell them, I recycle them into nanocube and do sell them on auc in very small stacks.

Hunting skills
Laser sniper (Hit) : level 30
Dodger : 16
Robot looter : level 12

WhiskeyMongoose · Mar 4, 2025

You inspired me to go hunting these snablesnots, and do Rank 15 to 16 in one sitting.
And oh boy, oh boy, I don't know what the hell I'm doing wrong, but at the exact same spot, I came back with 82.13% return.
I think my account is cursed.

Really like your hunting log, thanks for posting them!

Leeloo Miner · Mar 4, 2025

WhiskeyMongoose said:
You inspired me to go hunting these snablesnots, and do Rank 15 to 16 in one sitting.
And oh boy, oh boy, I don't know what the hell I'm doing wrong, but at the exact same spot, I came back with 82.13% return.
I think my account is cursed.

Really like your hunting log, thanks for posting them!

Returns go up and down so do not worry and sell your loot as high as possible.
You'l always need a +5% in sales to break even, so the higher % in sales, the more profit you'll make.

After spending a certain amount on the same mob your loot will go up to 95% I'm sure

With tiny mobs it just takes a bit longer.

Have fun

Vill · Mar 4, 2025

Leeloo Miner said:
Returns go up and down so do not worry and sell your loot as high as possible.
You'l always need a +5% in sales to break even, so the higher % in sales, the more profit you'll make.

After spending a certain amount on the same mob your loot will go up to 95% I'm sure
With tiny mobs it just takes a bit longer.

Have fun

To end up at 95% returns long term he need to be lvl50-60 looter (assuming his eff is ~60%). If he hunt these, I assume he's lower and can expect more like 93% long term.

Reino Ranger · Mar 4, 2025

Leeloo Miner said:
Leeloo Miner said:

Returns go up and down so do not worry and sell your loot as high as possible.
You'l always need a +5% in sales to break even, so the higher % in sales, the more profit you'll make.

After spending a certain amount on the same mob your loot will go up to 95% I'm sure
With tiny mobs it just takes a bit longer.

Click to expand...

I agree you 100% thank you for this great log

Deleted member 74680 · Mar 4, 2025

90-93% tt wise without looters is what one should expect.

Held true in past and for my latest 1,5 years of hunting.

Bigger cycle steadier it is.

1-3 good days in month 5-8 bad ones rest are average.

Nice log

Leeloo Miner · Mar 5, 2025

Arthur The Hunter said:
90-93% tt wise without looters is what one should expect.

Held true in past and for my latest 1,5 years of hunting.

Bigger cycle steadier it is.

1-3 good days in month 5-8 bad ones rest are average.

Nice log

Thank you, I noticed that my returns where going down now also

This is the latest result on snable, I'm @ Rank 1 @ 11% ...

Results so far when selling nova @ around 17500%

TT gun	Ammo	Refining	Totall Cost	TT return	TT+%
1,59%	98,38%	0,03%		92,09%	98,21%
	1643,62			1538,56	1640,84
				-132,1536	-29,8657

Changing nova to 50000% (extreem MU) gives the following results :

TT gun	Ammo	Refining	Totall Cost	TT return	TT+%
1,59%	98,38%	0,03%		92,09%	99,30%
	1643,62			1538,56	1658,98
				-132,1536	-11,7280

So here again, count, count, count, it's the same with mining ... your profit is in the stack size / MU you sell it at even for fillers or oils (and NOT in swirlies)!!!

Deleted member 74680 · Mar 5, 2025

Leeloo Miner said:
Thank you, I noticed that my returns where going down now also

This is the latest result on snable, I'm @ Rank 1 @ 11% ...

Results so far when selling nova @ around 17500%

TT gun Ammo Refining Totall Cost TT return TT+%
1,59% 98,38% 0,03% 92,09% 98,21%
1643,62 1538,56 1640,84
-132,1536 -29,8657

Changing nova to 50000% (extreem MU) gives the following results :

TT gun Ammo Refining Totall Cost TT return TT+%
1,59% 98,38% 0,03% 92,09% 99,30%
1643,62 1538,56 1658,98
-132,1536 -11,7280

So here again, count, count, count, it's the same with mining ... your profit is in the stack size / MU you sell it at even for fillers or oils (and NOT in swirlies)!!!

Yep, sadly in higher cycles like 10-20K min you'l start to see selling becoming harder and slower.

I used to be okay with 1-3 month wait times and planing to get things sold and i did do passive trading daily while at hunting 5K-10K or so to recover quicker.

For year i was able to recover what i lost in hunting before/while at it and make decent profit after hunt sales.

Ubers aint wrong about carrot and trust to the game and MU:s staying up.

My only Mayhem vendor pull solified my 1,5 year profits.

Atfer last year Migration economy got more and more stagnated and those waiting times for succesful sales grew longer and longer.

I'v played to break even and wouldnt mind the small gains.

But during xmas, i couln't even break even anymore with MU.

Leeloo Miner · Mar 5, 2025

Arthur The Hunter said:
Yep, sadly in higher cycles like 10-20K min you'l start to see selling becoming harder and slower.

I used to be okay with 1-3 month wait times and planing to get things sold and i did do passive trading daily while at hunting 5K-10K or so to recover quicker.

For year i was able to recover what i lost in hunting before/while at it and make decent profit after hunt sales.

Ubers aint wrong about carrot and trust to the game and MU:s staying up.

My only Mayhem vendor pull solified my 1,5 year profits.

Atfer last year Migration economy got more and more stagnated and those waiting times for succesful sales grew longer and longer.

I'v played to break even and wouldnt mind the small gains.

But during xmas, i couln't even break even anymore with MU.

That's what happend when hunting the proto defenders ... + all the weapons that drop need to be sold are I would loose.
I was lucky that I stopped hunting them when less weapons where dropping so I already could sell a lot, but dunno if I'll go back to hunt them.

I see the same happening with mining now

Returns are more volatile and go down a lot more since Space Mining was introduced, getting a 65% - 75% returns and then a multi to break even after some time (if unamped) , but worst of all ... multipliers with fillers ... Prolly can compare this with oils in hunting.
I'm still adjusting MU's for sales now (3th month) and I need to be very carefully not ending up with red numbers, altough with resources MU is better than with hunting.
Sales are a lot slower also ...
Meaning ... less sales = less mining so I also buy cheap stacks for trading till some of what I mined got sold on auction.

Deleted member 74680 · Mar 5, 2025

Leeloo Miner said:
That's what happend when hunting the proto defenders ... + all the weapons that drop need to be sold are I would loose.
I was lucky that I stopped hunting them when less weapons where dropping so I already could sell a lot, but dunno if I'll go back to hunt them.

I see the same happening with mining now
Returns are more volatile and go down a lot more since Space Mining was introduced, getting a 65% - 75% returns and then a multi to break even after some time (if unamped) , but worst of all ... multipliers with fillers ... Prolly can compare this with oils in hunting.
I'm still adjusting MU's for sales now (3th month) and I need to be very carefully not ending up with red numbers, altough with resources MU is better than with hunting.
Sales are a lot slower also ...
Meaning ... less sales = less mining so I also buy cheap stacks for trading till some of what I mined got sold on auction.

It's doable but at one point you start to do more and more trading and waiting instead of playing sadly.

Then you'l do what many Ubers do.

Plan ahead 1-2 years or longer ahead and sell during events or when supply runs out.

My issue with this is the demand of having 100K PED budget to keep going, current instability in the market and the fact you break even or make 3-5% profit from that time wich alot time spent on it. This does not include mayhem pulls ofc.

Is that something one considers justified depo wise? Minimun wage pays more.

Not meant to discourage anyone but provoke thought.

We need material sinks, carrot or cutdown everything non useable from the economy.

I hope MA will rebuild economy from scratch if/when Unreal happens

Leeloo Miner · Mar 12, 2025

Prototype Defender Rank 8 Reached

My equipment
Full Cyrene Disciple armor seems best
[Vivo S10] if needed
[Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] DPP 2938
No : pet - taxes - pills - buffs

I also decided to use enhancers
For the weapon, I'm using Eco : [Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] T2 and [Z12 Barbarella] + [ZX Sinkadus] T3
For the Cyrene Armor Dura : up to T1 only so far

Cost to reach lvl 25 : Entropianexus

Loot composition :

Shrapnel	Isis LLP 1	Isis LLC 1	Isis LBP 1	Isis LBC 1	Ener Nano	Kin Nano	Azuro full	azuro	B-101 full	EP-2	Skildek
84,14%	3,39%	2,26%	2,55%	1,70%	0,00%	0,00%	2,57%	1,32%	0,32%	0,42%	1,33%

Cycling :

Z12+ZX	Eco enh	Ammo	Cyrene	Dura enh	VivoS10	Totall	TT	TT+%
1,95%	0,62%	95,14%	2,37%	0,00%	0,00%	1592,7051	1381,7832	1522,66
							86,76%	95,60%
							-210,9219	-70,04

I wonder what happend with the loot
But as said above, time for some trading now and make up the losses...

Hunting skills
Laser sniper (Hit) : level 30
Dodger : 16
Robot looter : level 12

Leeloo Miner · Apr 15, 2025

Snablesnot Rank 25 done + 1st Repeat @ 13,01%

My equipment costs : no armor - no fab - no pet - no taxes - TT gun - T-105 Refiner

26,7768	1654,5460	0,5267	1681,8495
TT gun	Ammo	Refining	Totall Cost
1,59%	98,38%	0,03%
			1681,8495

Return

TT return	TT+%
95,12%	108,84%
1599,85	1830,46
-82,0033	148,6084

SO? What happend here ....
I was loosing a lot ... and then I got a global of 52 ped (Male Young

) BUT it included a Combustive nano chip that was sold for +100 Ped
Some will find this low ... I know, but I didn't care. My numbers got green again

Shrapnel	Generic	Soft	Enblade-4	Combustive 2	Isis LBC1	Thin	Basic cloth	Basic stone	Basic wood	Weak cloth	Skin	Orange	Gel	Super charger	Dil sweat	Eye oil	Muscle	Nova
60,91%	3,56%	0,67%	1,04%	1,08%	0,39%	0,19%	0,14%	0,85%	0,33%	0,47%	3,84%	1,71%	0,35%	0,20%	6,55%	4,99%	15,06%	1,70%

Hunting skills
Laser pistoleer (Hit) : level 35 :lolup:

Ranged laser (Dmg) : 32 :lolup:

Evade/dodge : 21 :lolup:

/ 16

Goal is to reach lvl 23 evade
Animal looter : level 18

PS : I see the same thing happening when mining, very unstable now, less globals BUT ...
Unamped mining gave mostly a claim 13 ... and now I'm getting claims 15
So in the end the losses always come back as before, only it's a lot more volatile.

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