kingofaces
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I'm not much of one for standard mining log posts, but I had been playing around with Excel for awhile to get it to chart my current net returns every day I close the file. I thought I'd throw an example up there, and also show you can profit off mining in this game under the current system:
The above is net returns after TT and MU costs. I don't really do "runs" per se, but just continuously track returns and let the spreadsheet update automatically based auction, shop sales, and my inventory on website (My Account -> Items for those that don't know of it). Otherwise, it's just manually tracking probes, finder decay, amps used, and any associated MU for input costs. If I have items in hand, I also calculated a projected MU sold amount based on current MU to add on to the TT value, so some fluctuations above are changes in MU too. This chart does not include returns from trading, just pure resources I mined myself.
Generally, the chart only shows changes when I logged in to check my inventory, so there are some periods of time where you can tell I wasn't really mining much when returns were unchanged (i.e., really busy with work).
For background, this logging started after I sold my Terra 1 UL amp and went to using L level-5 and d-class amps (obviously not bought at auction when you read below). In January, I sold my my F-106 to just use L finders. Prior to this, I was doing some testing in December on finder decay while mapping Cyrene, so I wasn't really targeting good MU areas at the time. After that point, this was my main gear:
Finder: Terramaster 6 L (no enhancers)
Excavator: Genesis Star Excavator Improved (tier 1 enhancer)
Refiner: Chikara Adjusted
Level 5 amps: 100.12% MU
D-class amps: 102.61%
TT in: 70,273.13
MU in: 525.56
Auction fees: 21.73
TT sold: 69,994.80
MU sold: 6,169.86
Overall net since October: +5,344.23
TT %: 99.6%
Net % w/ MU: 107.6%
Notable HoFs: 839 iron, 523 and 953, lyst, 418 adomasite, 481 niksarium, 264 terrudite, and 442 blau.
So I've been pretty pleased with how mining has been working. TT was really good since I normally try to target an average MU that will break even at ~92% TT at a minimum. My average resource MU was only around 108.8%, but that's in part because I started mining ore more often instead of just enmatter for my shop. As long as I'm getting good TT, that makes some ore areas more feasible. Cheap amps definitely help a lot too, though I'm not sure how long I can hold those costs at the above MU as I got really lucky on some D-class crafting.
As for how to get near 100% TT long-term like this, I don't have any answers I can give out about what I do very much. I have a few half-year sets of data before this one that aren't as detailed with daily data, but I haven't been in a long-term negative since I got more serious about mining in 2017. I will say that I tend to be fickle when I mine Ashi, so most of my mining is from elsewhere. There are plenty of theories out there, and some I have done testing with others on. Other things I have privately tested that I won't post here though do seem to indicate there are ways to increase your TT efficiency, or rather keep it from plummeting.
The "black box" of how mining works and being able to do some formal scientific testing on it as a scientist to see what you can pin down or not has been one of the most fun aspects of the game for me. Some things are entirely up to Lootius, while some things you can do can help push the scales your way.
The above is net returns after TT and MU costs. I don't really do "runs" per se, but just continuously track returns and let the spreadsheet update automatically based auction, shop sales, and my inventory on website (My Account -> Items for those that don't know of it). Otherwise, it's just manually tracking probes, finder decay, amps used, and any associated MU for input costs. If I have items in hand, I also calculated a projected MU sold amount based on current MU to add on to the TT value, so some fluctuations above are changes in MU too. This chart does not include returns from trading, just pure resources I mined myself.
Generally, the chart only shows changes when I logged in to check my inventory, so there are some periods of time where you can tell I wasn't really mining much when returns were unchanged (i.e., really busy with work).
For background, this logging started after I sold my Terra 1 UL amp and went to using L level-5 and d-class amps (obviously not bought at auction when you read below). In January, I sold my my F-106 to just use L finders. Prior to this, I was doing some testing in December on finder decay while mapping Cyrene, so I wasn't really targeting good MU areas at the time. After that point, this was my main gear:
Finder: Terramaster 6 L (no enhancers)
Excavator: Genesis Star Excavator Improved (tier 1 enhancer)
Refiner: Chikara Adjusted
Level 5 amps: 100.12% MU
D-class amps: 102.61%
TT in: 70,273.13
MU in: 525.56
Auction fees: 21.73
TT sold: 69,994.80
MU sold: 6,169.86
Overall net since October: +5,344.23
TT %: 99.6%
Net % w/ MU: 107.6%
Notable HoFs: 839 iron, 523 and 953, lyst, 418 adomasite, 481 niksarium, 264 terrudite, and 442 blau.
So I've been pretty pleased with how mining has been working. TT was really good since I normally try to target an average MU that will break even at ~92% TT at a minimum. My average resource MU was only around 108.8%, but that's in part because I started mining ore more often instead of just enmatter for my shop. As long as I'm getting good TT, that makes some ore areas more feasible. Cheap amps definitely help a lot too, though I'm not sure how long I can hold those costs at the above MU as I got really lucky on some D-class crafting.
As for how to get near 100% TT long-term like this, I don't have any answers I can give out about what I do very much. I have a few half-year sets of data before this one that aren't as detailed with daily data, but I haven't been in a long-term negative since I got more serious about mining in 2017. I will say that I tend to be fickle when I mine Ashi, so most of my mining is from elsewhere. There are plenty of theories out there, and some I have done testing with others on. Other things I have privately tested that I won't post here though do seem to indicate there are ways to increase your TT efficiency, or rather keep it from plummeting.
The "black box" of how mining works and being able to do some formal scientific testing on it as a scientist to see what you can pin down or not has been one of the most fun aspects of the game for me. Some things are entirely up to Lootius, while some things you can do can help push the scales your way.
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