AckerZ
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Hey Everyone o/,
Looking for some pointers on whether I am understanding the Market Value History window correctly. I have numbered the questions as I go down so it is easier to answer if you are able to. Many thanks in advance if you choose to help explain this difficult topic.
So Looking at the Market Value History Graph for Basic Leather Extractor set to the 'Week'
I assumed the peaks and troughs marked by the red arrows indicate actual sales, and when I hover over those points as shown below the data that comes up shows the 'exact' sale amount + the MU for that sale.
So here logic follows that what I am seeing at 18.30 is one sale for 24.39 at an MU of 275%, but that is not possible as you can only buy in integers on Auction. [Question 1] So obviously that cannot be the actual values but a moving average between sale points with the exact sale value & mu being a pixel small point on this graph?
So based on the values given above by only the Mark Up data for this week I'd be looking at an average MU of 195.17% if I was planning to sell Leather Extractors.
If I do the same thing for Leather Extractors but for the Sales Graph
We have the same situation a non-exact outcome when hovering what I believe is the peak. [Question 2] Assuming it is the same situation where I am not 100% accurately placed on the actual sale pixel I can gather from this data that if I was to sell a '20.36ped' stack a good target Mark-Up would be 254%?
[Question 3] So then when you overlay the two charts and assuming we hypothetically have a 20ped stack of extractors would it make sense to look in this range (highlighted in red) to figure out what MU target you should be aiming for with a 20ped stack?
[Question 4] If so and if all the assumptions I am making so far have been correct does that mean every peak or trough (end point indicating a sale) that falls in that range indicates that an order was completed at that value and at that Mark Up? So it would make sense for anyone looking to sell a 20 ped stack of extractors to look in that range and see if there are enough 'sale points' to go ahead and list their stack at that MU?
This is where it gets difficult for me.
If both lines (Mark Up & Sales) pair up on the graph within that range it appears that a sale was made within the value range (20ped) and within the MU range (240%), what then follows when the Mark Up line hits 300% while the Sale line hits 5ped(shown in red below)?
When I hover over the two points it gives two wildly different results of ~30ped @ 300%MU & ~1.69ped @ 152%MU, despite appearing to be the same time of the same day.
This throws me off massively and makes me think my previous assumptions about what these lines mean is wrong. [Question 5] How can the MU line and the Sale line which are meant to be showing averages while at the same point in time show two completely different results in the tooltip? Too say I am confused is a massive understatement.
My end goal here is to be able to figure out what is a good price to list my stacks at based off previous sales data alone. I opted not to use more popular items like Oils as that data is even more confusing for me with ridiculous outliers showing Mark Up up to 10x what the average is, as shown below in the final image. If anyone could help me understand what I am missing here I will make sure I gift you something worthwhile in game (nothing too crazy though).
Logic would dictate based on the MU graph that I want to sell a >200ped stack between 102-105% yet 1.5k ped sold for 128 ped. [Question 7] This is planet data I am looking at here not global data?.. I yield.
Looking for some pointers on whether I am understanding the Market Value History window correctly. I have numbered the questions as I go down so it is easier to answer if you are able to. Many thanks in advance if you choose to help explain this difficult topic.
So Looking at the Market Value History Graph for Basic Leather Extractor set to the 'Week'
I assumed the peaks and troughs marked by the red arrows indicate actual sales, and when I hover over those points as shown below the data that comes up shows the 'exact' sale amount + the MU for that sale.
So here logic follows that what I am seeing at 18.30 is one sale for 24.39 at an MU of 275%, but that is not possible as you can only buy in integers on Auction. [Question 1] So obviously that cannot be the actual values but a moving average between sale points with the exact sale value & mu being a pixel small point on this graph?
So based on the values given above by only the Mark Up data for this week I'd be looking at an average MU of 195.17% if I was planning to sell Leather Extractors.
If I do the same thing for Leather Extractors but for the Sales Graph
We have the same situation a non-exact outcome when hovering what I believe is the peak. [Question 2] Assuming it is the same situation where I am not 100% accurately placed on the actual sale pixel I can gather from this data that if I was to sell a '20.36ped' stack a good target Mark-Up would be 254%?
[Question 3] So then when you overlay the two charts and assuming we hypothetically have a 20ped stack of extractors would it make sense to look in this range (highlighted in red) to figure out what MU target you should be aiming for with a 20ped stack?
[Question 4] If so and if all the assumptions I am making so far have been correct does that mean every peak or trough (end point indicating a sale) that falls in that range indicates that an order was completed at that value and at that Mark Up? So it would make sense for anyone looking to sell a 20 ped stack of extractors to look in that range and see if there are enough 'sale points' to go ahead and list their stack at that MU?
This is where it gets difficult for me.
If both lines (Mark Up & Sales) pair up on the graph within that range it appears that a sale was made within the value range (20ped) and within the MU range (240%), what then follows when the Mark Up line hits 300% while the Sale line hits 5ped(shown in red below)?
When I hover over the two points it gives two wildly different results of ~30ped @ 300%MU & ~1.69ped @ 152%MU, despite appearing to be the same time of the same day.
This throws me off massively and makes me think my previous assumptions about what these lines mean is wrong. [Question 5] How can the MU line and the Sale line which are meant to be showing averages while at the same point in time show two completely different results in the tooltip? Too say I am confused is a massive understatement.
My end goal here is to be able to figure out what is a good price to list my stacks at based off previous sales data alone. I opted not to use more popular items like Oils as that data is even more confusing for me with ridiculous outliers showing Mark Up up to 10x what the average is, as shown below in the final image. If anyone could help me understand what I am missing here I will make sure I gift you something worthwhile in game (nothing too crazy though).
Logic would dictate based on the MU graph that I want to sell a >200ped stack between 102-105% yet 1.5k ped sold for 128 ped. [Question 7] This is planet data I am looking at here not global data?.. I yield.
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