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R4tt3xx said:
Easier said than done.. The interesting thing is no matter what algorithm I try the results seem to be the same...
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Fuck the algorithms. Find 2-3 areas were are not many miners and are decent minerals/decent avg. Ignore the TT as long u have 110% avg+.

Ill be hype to be a miner with this new crafting event :p
 
R4tt3xx said:
I appreciate this post, thanks a lot. A sufficient budget for me is just out of reach right now.. looks like I am going to have to mine when the returns are high if such a thing happens...

So I have to look at the timer, lovely, everyone who knows me, knows that I really dispise timers.....

Ah EU the only mmo that tells you when it's good to play...
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Piece of advise. If your budget is small then do what I do in indoor mining limit your spend per arena/server and if things aren't going the way you want it move on!

Lots people will offer you advise but sometimes no matter what you do it will not play ball hence the advise above. You can chuck all you want at it and it will take it and more.
 
R4tt3xx said:
Easier said than done.. The interesting thing is no matter what algorithm I try the results seem to be the same...
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Then try something else, try markup, try getting better, try to learn, try getting a mentor, try investing. just try, forget all you know, learn what works.
 
R4tt3xx said:
The game should not care about who is the better miner, just as long as the loot out is +-95% of the ped value coming in.
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Very true. The game need to ignore all of the stats of items and skills from players.
I agree with this. Let all new accounts have same results like big ubers have.
Why to invest so much in items? Bullshit.
Let us have for free.

Now to wake up to reality...
When others told me to
- invest in better gear
- have a big bigger biggest bankroll
-see what is worth and what isnt
-time to start to hold and when to sell
-what to hold and what is not worth to keep
- and more of this stuff.

I did start to change my mining setup and gameplay and something have change in better for me.
I start to watch for MU that can cover my " bad runs" when I have them.
There was so many people on your topics that help you with very important tricks and stuff but you keep to watch on your "alfa-omega-spiral" crap stuff
 
R4tt3xx said:
Easier said than done.. The interesting thing is no matter what algorithm I try the results seem to be the same...
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I'm SHOCKED just shocked I say....well I'm not that shocked.
R4tt3xx said:
So I have to look at the timer, lovely, everyone who knows me, knows that I really dispise timers.....
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Literally no one knows who you are.

And yet people are choosing to try and help you and try and get you out of your weird conspiracy theories.

You could have made so much ped and markup even starting with only 200 ped with mining if you just got out of your own head.

You can do enmatter only mining on ark and profit FROM LEVEL 0
 
Bruh, it looks like you need to take a little break, you're getting too attached emotionally and angry, it's unhealthy.
 
SoberPhil said:
Bruh, it looks like you need to take a little break, you're getting too attached emotionally and angry, it's unhealthy.
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Especially for someone who has little to no money invested into the game. Now if they had actually spent money with these crazy theories and "lost" a lot of money, that would be different. That's why I tell people, spend only what you're able to afford if you A) don't care about profiting, or B) Don't know how to profit
 
Vill said:
I think this is what everyone are saying to you in various threads 😁
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For like 20 years now...

Something Strange

Hi Guys Just a little update, it seems MA caught onto what I was using to figure out mining. ITS BEEN TOTALLY CHANGED. I don't even know how or where or even when but all my techniques have stopped working. My spiral and non-spiral ideas have stopped responding. Well MA you have screwed me over...
www.planetcalypsoforum.com www.planetcalypsoforum.com
 
UnaAlconbury said:
For like 20 years now...

Something Strange

Hi Guys Just a little update, it seems MA caught onto what I was using to figure out mining. ITS BEEN TOTALLY CHANGED. I don't even know how or where or even when but all my techniques have stopped working. My spiral and non-spiral ideas have stopped responding. Well MA you have screwed me over...
www.planetcalypsoforum.com www.planetcalypsoforum.com
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No way.....almost 20 years????
Is that real?
Omg....now I need to start to read all of that....
Popcorn time
 
For what it's worth, my "runs" are often 8-10k PED (unamped) at a go. Each sub-run usually ranges from 300-600 PED depending on how much time I have per sitting. On those sub-runs, I see TT swings from 60% all the way to 800% TT. Sometimes, I have multiple 60-80% sub-runs in a row. That used to freak me out, but now I just accept it as being part of it. Over time, my 8-10k PED total runs always range from 95-110% TT. Over my last 50k cycled, I am at 106% TT.
 
As others said swings are mad because realistically it takes ages to run up the numbers to hit a hof etc.

Also the way bulk of people mine unamped takes system ages to build up towers etc. let's face it with current mu their isn't many places you can make amps work consistently unless it's ul amp even level 5 and d class theirs very few places you can consistently make these work without gambling on the mu game to make it play in your favour. 7 ped remember per amp on level 5 mu you need to make up as well as a possible 5 to 3% ma fee possibly although this varys between people.

Even foma unamped exclusively targeting main, 12, 14, 3 for high mu doesn't pay because tax being mostly 105. So if you wondering why you consistently not gaining and losing that's why.
 
R4tt3xx said:
Agreed, there's not enough resources in the system to do that. Mindark has to literally use Peter's PED to pay Paul. But doing that in a fair and balanced way is going to be tricky.

It needs to reward players that come up with unique strategies for "beating the game" but at the same time limiting the effect of those strategies once they have been discovered / overused, be it intentionally or unintentionally.
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(y)

MindArk should reward the players that come up with noncheating unique strategies for "beating the game"; unless they have been discovered and/or overused, intentionally or unintentionally.
 
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I am out for now, till I decide when to participate again, until I do I need to add code to my python app that logs the results.

There is something that I am expecting to see in the results which will delay investment into the "game"
 
R4tt3xx said:
I am out for now, till I decide when to participate again, until I do I need to add code to my python app that logs the results.

There is something that I am expecting to see in the results which will delay investment into the "game"
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Haven't you had 20 years to decide if you were going to invest?

We'll see you tomorrow. Don't get too much sleep, it ruins the fun.
 
R4tt3xx said:
I am out for now, till I decide when to participate again, until I do I need to add code to my python app that logs the results.

There is something that I am expecting to see in the results which will delay investment into the "game"
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Just drop lvl 13 amp/terra 10 in foma main arena. Theirs a 50% chance your hit ath if you never used one their before or been their guaranteed!
 
This is a bloody joke...

Support case opened with Mindark for finder not working as intended.. Not detecting claims that are in range with 1 probe, and finding it on the next drop that is within range of the first drop..

Happened 3 times this run..
 
R4tt3xx said:
This is a bloody joke...

Support case opened with Mindark for finder not working as intended.. Not detecting claims that are in range with 1 probe, and finding it on the next drop that is within range of the first drop..

Happened 3 times this run..
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Called a double drop and every time you do this you can find claims different depth ranges as its random but sometimes when you toon is on a high this range drastically increases its not really in the ground the only thing to do with the ground is hitrate to stop people cycling peds in one spot hence why people wait 30 mins + at least my understanding.
 
slick27 said:
Called a double drop and every time you do this you can find claims different depth ranges as its random but sometimes when you toon is on a high this range drastically increases its not really in the ground the only thing to do with the ground is hitrate to stop people cycling peds in one spot hence why people wait 30 mins + at least my understanding.
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It's just weird and makes no sense....
 
R4tt3xx said:
This is a bloody joke...

Support case opened with Mindark for finder not working as intended.. Not detecting claims that are in range with 1 probe, and finding it on the next drop that is within range of the first drop..

Happened 3 times this run..
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Yeah not the only issue atm. 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
Arthur The Hunter said:
Yeah not the only issue atm. 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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I mean, where is the logic.. I scan an area for something, then move a few meters away and scan again and find something within the range of the first scan ?????

Each scan costs money ......
 
Its to make you cycle to add peds to system with a few who work the system able to take advantage over time otherwise how would towers and globals happen if system never builds it up because you hit everytime?
 
R4tt3xx said:
Support case opened with Mindark for finder not working as intended.. Not detecting claims that are in range with 1 probe, and finding it on the next drop that is within range of the first drop..
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mate support has better things to do than deal with this kind of nonsense...

you not understanding the game does not equal the game not working as intended... and then people wonder why support cases take forever...
 
R4tt3xx said:
I mean, where is the logic.. I scan an area for something, then move a few meters away and scan again and find something within the range of the first scan ?????

Each scan costs money ......
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Check the event post, servers are downnright now.
 
Let's look at the skill involved to mine, pick a spot, drop a probe, if you miss, you either wait 15 minutes and try again, move on, move to another server or alt f4.

If you hit, extract it and move either 108 or 110m, drop probe..

I used to think there was more to it than this but I was sadly mistaken...

PE had a better mining system than EU.
 
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