Shamshe
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- Shamshe Shamshe Shamadarak
Hi all ,
so I have been talkign about this to some friends. What is the best setup you can go for?
Is it worth paying the mu for a 70+eff gun with extender (armatrix series)?
In all honestly I dont think it is and efficiency is kinda overrated.
I have done some testing and cycled over 100k ped with and augmented bc-80 90+ eff and about 190% mu.
I did the same with the normal armatrixes bc-85, bc 90 70+ eff and about 130-136% mu
then I did the same with an lc-300 ambush 64 eff and no mu since its ul (so only mu on the amp and extender which is still way less then using L items)
all 3 examples also use mayhem amps
the results where staggering I have more then 10% better returns using the least efficient gun simply because I dont pay mu. Even paying 135% on a normal armatrix gives better results then using the augmented version for 190%, and thats with extenders.
I havent been able to compare the lc-300 to a gun with 80-90eff and same dps and dpp. but I feel the small increase in tt-return isnt so high as some people make it out to be (most of them resellers that charge an arm and a leg for these items). the majority if your profits come from looting high mu L items and mu on items with 0tt anyway.
My conclusion is that the difference in eff even if its 20% isnt worth it at all if you have to pay mu for that item, unlike what some people say that swear by efficiency even if that means paying 190-200% mu. Going with an ul kallous-7 or adj maddox or whatever will still net you better results then the armatrix weapons because the MU does add up in the long run (100k+ ped cycled).
and I am not even mentioning looter skills which are as important as efficiency on weapons.
Nobody is talking about dps which is a huge factor imo. Being able to cycle more mobs in a day will give you so much more chance on looting an item with mu (guns, armour etc). not to mention being able to kill bigger mobs with the better mu in the game.
so my question is would you rather go for a decent ul weapon (in the 60's of eff) or go for a L item with mu while negating some of that with extenders?
another question is why is everyone talking about dpp and efficiency only while I feel dps is also a major factor in loot returns?
in my own opinion (and also what I did) ur better of getting a good dps weapon like predator, lc-300, gleamer and keeping a 50k bankroll then going for a high eff gun like lp-40, imk2, argo claws etc with almost no bankroll. I can still profit with my setup but I just have to be more carefull what I hunt.
having a lc-300 at t10 will also give you a much better chance in events to reach a top 10 place. (if I dont get bumped up a cat for next mayhems, dont think I have a chence in cat 10 )
thoughts?
so I have been talkign about this to some friends. What is the best setup you can go for?
Is it worth paying the mu for a 70+eff gun with extender (armatrix series)?
In all honestly I dont think it is and efficiency is kinda overrated.
I have done some testing and cycled over 100k ped with and augmented bc-80 90+ eff and about 190% mu.
I did the same with the normal armatrixes bc-85, bc 90 70+ eff and about 130-136% mu
then I did the same with an lc-300 ambush 64 eff and no mu since its ul (so only mu on the amp and extender which is still way less then using L items)
all 3 examples also use mayhem amps
the results where staggering I have more then 10% better returns using the least efficient gun simply because I dont pay mu. Even paying 135% on a normal armatrix gives better results then using the augmented version for 190%, and thats with extenders.
I havent been able to compare the lc-300 to a gun with 80-90eff and same dps and dpp. but I feel the small increase in tt-return isnt so high as some people make it out to be (most of them resellers that charge an arm and a leg for these items). the majority if your profits come from looting high mu L items and mu on items with 0tt anyway.
My conclusion is that the difference in eff even if its 20% isnt worth it at all if you have to pay mu for that item, unlike what some people say that swear by efficiency even if that means paying 190-200% mu. Going with an ul kallous-7 or adj maddox or whatever will still net you better results then the armatrix weapons because the MU does add up in the long run (100k+ ped cycled).
and I am not even mentioning looter skills which are as important as efficiency on weapons.
Nobody is talking about dps which is a huge factor imo. Being able to cycle more mobs in a day will give you so much more chance on looting an item with mu (guns, armour etc). not to mention being able to kill bigger mobs with the better mu in the game.
so my question is would you rather go for a decent ul weapon (in the 60's of eff) or go for a L item with mu while negating some of that with extenders?
another question is why is everyone talking about dpp and efficiency only while I feel dps is also a major factor in loot returns?
in my own opinion (and also what I did) ur better of getting a good dps weapon like predator, lc-300, gleamer and keeping a 50k bankroll then going for a high eff gun like lp-40, imk2, argo claws etc with almost no bankroll. I can still profit with my setup but I just have to be more carefull what I hunt.
having a lc-300 at t10 will also give you a much better chance in events to reach a top 10 place. (if I dont get bumped up a cat for next mayhems, dont think I have a chence in cat 10 )
thoughts?
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