FYI: My CND expierence

[Salerno]

Hi all and welcome to my thread,

I started this day with a atrox hunt with almost 600 peds of ammo. Not a single global and only 2 or 3 times a 20 pedder. So I was down about 420 after the hunt and decided to start mining.
Bought 2x OA-105 and 2x OA-108 and all I got from it was about 396 ped TT findings and only 2 globals (of an OA-105). So after it was sold ofr 450 I was yet down another big chunk of my pedcard.

So after all this madness and such I didn't sit down on my ass whining like a little baby (like some people would) I was ready for my yet 2nd biggest mine-run on CND. (biggest was with 3x OA-108 and 4x OA-105 which wasnt all to much of an succes..).

I bought 4 Enmatter amplifiers 103 which cost me 126 ped a piece, also I had a amp left with 14 ped tt value.
I used my Ziplex Tix200 finder with a tt value of 83.29 ped
And ofcourse I had to buy probes, I bought 450 probes which is 225 ped.
Then the trip to CND cost me 25 ped and that makes a total of:

826.29 ped for this mine trip.

Skills before I started the trip:
Survey: 290
Drilling: 167
Ground Assessment: 323

I kept track of domes, bombs and the claims I found during the trip:
Dome 13:
11th bomb: XI Melchi Water worth: 25.50 ped
23rd bomb: VII Melchi Water worth: 7.64 ped
66th bomb: XI Crude Oil worth: 29.04 ped

Dome 17:
108th bomb: VII Melchi Water worth: 7.82 ped

Dome 3:
164th bomb: XI Alicenies Liquid worth: 31.40 ped

Dome 5:
194th bomb: VIII Melchi Water worth: 9.86 ped

Dome 9:
226th bomb: VIII Melchi Water worth: 10.74 ped
235th bomb: XI Force Nexus worth: 28.09 ped

Dome 6:
283rd bomb XI Crude Oil worth: 28.20 ped
296th bomb X Melchi Water worth: 18.74 ped
301st bomb VIII Crude Oil worth: 11.02 ped
304th bomb XI Melchi Water worth: 27.16 ped
308th bomb XI Crude Oil worth: 33.64 ped
322nd bomb XI Crude Oil worth: 32.42 ped
331st bomb XI Crude Oil worth: 28.23 ped

Dome 14:
347th bomb X Alicenies Liquid worth: 20.70 ped

Dome 1:
383th bomb XI Growth Molecules worth: 27.73 ped
387th bomb XI Melchi Water worth: 27.40 ped
398th bomb VIII Growth Molecules worth: 8.93 ped
435th bomb VIII Crude Oil worth: 8.14 ped


Aftermath:

5x unusable Enmamp 103 worth 3 ped each (15 ped)
76.75 ped tt value left on my finder
134.84 ped tt value of melchi crystal
28.09 ped tt value of force nexus
52.10 ped tt value of alicenies gel
170.68 ped tt value of oil
36.66 ped tt value of Growth Molecules

All is sold for the total sum of: 438.02 ped

So I started with the total cost of: 826.29 ped
During the mining I had to repair my equipment 2.5 times or something which cost me: ~12 ped

748.86 ped op kaartje
Total costs: ~838

I sold everything to a reseller: 438.02 ped
the rest I got back a total sum of: 19 ped

Total made: ~457 ped

Total loss on purely this run: 838-457 = 381 ped

Skillgains:

Before:
Survey: 290
Drilling: 167
Ground Assessment: 323

After:
Survey: 492 (+202)
Drilling: 435 (+268)
Ground Assessment: 391 (+68)

So after this I find out that mining on CND can be a expensive gamble. After all most of the professions and activities in entropia are gambles. But I am wondering if I did something wrong that if I did it another way I would not find myself in such a downswing.
Should I not be mining on cnd with my skill level in surveying and should I stay on earth until I get a certain finder with a certain depth? Should I not be mining with amps on CND? Should I not be mining enmatter but ores with bigger amps? Please tell me what u think and also give some feedback on it so not just give me advice and say mine ores but also tell me why and if possible link me thru to an article thats backs it up.

Kind regards,
- Salerno

 

[Neuromancer]

Find a mining soc that can guide you away from this kind of madness.

It might be a good start

 

[Mega]

Should I not be mining on cnd with my skill level in surveying and should I stay on earth until I get a certain finder with a certain depth?

Kind regards,
- Salerno

I wouldn't bother going all the way back to Earth, but you may do better on Calypso.

 

[Parasiteone]

Big ore amps arent a good idea on cnd.. 101-103 are usually best. 108 may bring an ath but really odds are tiny to none. As for the enmatter . Try 5-10 amps and your luck may change. 4 amps is too few for a cnd run on most nights. but hey its all about luck right?

 

[BBpunisher]

CND is not a great place for beginners. You probably should not be using that finder and amps either, without gaining a lot more skills first. Check the matter finders recommended skill level and average search depth (without the right skills you may be at 150m out of 550m possible depth for example).

I could give you more advice in game and I know many other people are willing to help out as well.

 

[Hope WolfGang]

SKills are to low to see a good return no ?

 

[Ace Flyster]

Skills have nothing to do with tt returns, i would hazard a guess that your turnover was far too low to get a good % back on cnd

Rgds

Ace

EDIT: or i should say, in my experience, skills to do not effect tt returns

 

[Wolverine Queen]

450 drop run on cnd?


And you are surprised of loss?

 

[mczimi]

i made 5-10k runs on cnd whit 101 amps and always got bad return, i wouldnt sugest to go up whit less than that... u do gambling that way... but it can pay out sometim 1 in a mil

 

[Eva Lynn]

Another reason i will put off that trip to CND ...for a year!