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Question: NeoPsion Booster Implant, “The Mole”

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Hello,

Items with buffs for mining profession being added so I think some clarification would be helpful for players, like in hunting, what buff should stack and their limitation/cap, if they are having.

Excavation speed increase buff icon not having displayed max that we can use (what is the limit, if there is one) and increased rare mining finds buff icon being missleading (is buff icon displayed wrong or it shouldn't stack?)
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So does NeoPsion Booster Implant, “The Mole” buffs stack with existing mining items, was it tested? Such as [Zyn Rucksack, Augmented (F)],[Yog Horror Pet],[Miner's Delight Stim],[Christmas Ring 2016].
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Well the rucksack got a buff icon of is own and looks like all the items on that slot would give the blue buff icon.

I never used the pills so im more curious if those got any buff icon and then we could see the "item" max value for speed imo.
 
Alina said:
Well the rucksack got a buff icon of is own and looks like all the items on that slot would give the blue buff icon.

I never used the pills so im more curious if those got any buff icon and then we could see the "item" max value for speed imo.
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When I used an [Miner's Delight Stim] it was added on top of the blue buff icon from rucksack without showing max, just time left for the pill, so they are counting as one, not different, as item and action.
As they are, my guess is that max excavation speed is 100% (including pill) : 50% implant+15%pill + 35% perfected rucksack(when will be released).Yog horror pet comming on top of this with his different buff which makes sense.
For increased rare mining finds highest value from the items is used.
 
Would also like to get the official information. My experience:

I would assume that "Modifiers On Equip" doesn't stack, only the best buff is taken, so only exc speed from Mole will kick in. If I remember correctly I tested it with backpack and prospector ring for carry capacity (and it only apply best buff, maybe the exc speed is different but I doubt it) but don't have the ring right now to verify.

No idea about pills, never used them.

Yog buff stacks with backpack, but pets buffs are not visible on bar as "intended".

The "Effects when equipped" for sure stacks, but no idea about rare mining finds cap. Since you shared to me that 33% is coming from ring 25%+ imp backpack 8%. I guess the first value on top is correct and the limit is 25%.
 
Just get my hands yesterday on the new implant.
Rare mining finds dont stack.
Still 25% strenght what come from my ring.
Total I have 43% but I belive is capped at 25%
Excavation speed is stacking with yog and backpack.
I belive so, the excavation speed is way more faster and better.
Need to make a test with the pills to see how far I can get it.
So far I love it.
50% from implant + 25% from yog and another 20 from my actual backpack.
If there is not a cap at 100% will be nice to finish the backpack also. If the perfected backpack can bring all of this to 125% only from items.....damn a win-win
 
InKwL said:
Just get my hands yesterday on the new implant.
Rare mining finds dont stack.
Still 25% strenght what come from my ring.
Total I have 43% but I belive is capped at 25%
Excavation speed is stacking with yog and backpack.
I belive so, the excavation speed is way more faster and better.
Need to make a test with the pills to see how far I can get it.
So far I love it.
50% from implant + 25% from yog and another 20 from my actual backpack.
If there is not a cap at 100% will be nice to finish the backpack also. If the perfected backpack can bring all of this to 125% only from items.....damn a win-win
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So you are guessing it doesn't stack or do you have a reason to think so?

Also curious about price if you happened to buy it.
 
WhiningSkeptic said:
So you are guessing it doesn't stack or do you have a reason to think so?

Also curious about price if you happened to buy it.
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Price is not so important.
Is worth only the price a miner accept to pay it.
Guessing or not.... i will dont spoiler anything.
Let's wait for a response from MA.

Dont get it wrong.
Base on what people say about it can ruin the item or increase the value.
 
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InKwL said:
Price is not so important.
Is worth only the price a miner accept to pay it.
Guessing or not.... i will dont spoiler anything.
Let's wait for a response from MA.

Dont get it wrong.
Base on what people say about it can ruin the item or increase the value.
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Price is incredibly important for people looting it and wanting to sell.

Guess you either got it dirt cheap or overpaid a bunch then.
 
How effective is a 10% increase in rare mining finds? What even counts as a rare find? Is that like a 10% increase on whatever the baseline rate is? Because that doesn't sound like it would do much of anything if the baseline is very low to begin with.

For example if the baseline rate for a rare find is say 1/100 drops, or 1%, then now this makes it 1.1%?
 
WhiningSkeptic said:
Price is incredibly important for people looting it and wanting to sell.

Guess you either got it dirt cheap or overpaid a bunch then.
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Top end gear worth more that some think.
Because of this the dream to be a ultimate uber is not for everyone.
Because of this in past people farm more and everything was ok. Like others say "carrot farming dream".
Each item that boost my buffs to max worth from my side.

If I made a good deal or not, only time will tell this. But so far I like and love it.
 
detritus2.0 said:
How effective is a 10% increase in rare mining finds? What even counts as a rare find? Is that like a 10% increase on whatever the baseline rate is? Because that doesn't sound like it would do much of anything if the baseline is very low to begin with.

For example if the baseline rate for a rare find is say 1/100 drops, or 1%, then now this makes it 1.1%?
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I am pretty sure its for "sooto" finds, like mining stronboxes that can jump into your inventory on dropping probes. Not sure if it was ever confirmed, but kinda clear on tooltip and ring desc. You can check on the second image from Agg.

Also if you have such modifier on certains area like RT, where you can't get sooto, there is a red message every time you drop saying something like "You can't find sooto in this planet". (Which is actually a partially bullshit, since on some RT land areas you can get tokens sooto :D)

No idea on math though, that's really hard to average and track, never had the ring, only backpack, but I would say i am looting more boxes and coins on Ark.
 
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Zabujca Sheaki Ortografji said:
I am pretty sure its for "sooto" finds, like mining stronboxes that can jump into your inventory on dropping probes. Not sure if it was ever confirmed, but kinda clear on tooltips and ring desc. You can check on the second image from Agg.

No idea on math though, that's really hard to average and track, never had the ring, only backpack, but I would say i am looting more boxes and coins on Ark.
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Oh yep, didn't catch that in the screenshot. SOOTO is very low baseline rate though, I would say even less than 1% in my experience, but I'm only a casual miner. It's hard to imagine even 25% increase would matter, but maybe the maths behind the scenes works a bit differently.
 
InKwL said:
Just get my hands yesterday on the new implant.
Rare mining finds dont stack.
Still 25% strenght what come from my ring.
Total I have 43% but I belive is capped at 25%
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Can you test it in a way to remove your ring and wear only backpack and implant? Then we can find out if rare finds stack or not?
 
I did test all excavation buffs and they are working together.My excavator has 27 uses/min and with buffs 60(rounded) uses/min which chat log confirmed.
This is great for miners being faster and can have greater impact if it will be combined with something new for mining like new content,resource distribution or consumption change, challeging enviroment mining areas.
 
I submitted a support ticket requesting rare mining finds be fixed so it stacks. They said they forwarded it to the responsible team. Hopefully that team wasn’t their trash can. I sold my mole atm cuz it won’t stack with my fat sack. Mole will tank like it’s an angelic ring if they don’t fix it
 
WrongKidDied21 said:
Mole will tank like it’s an angelic ring if they don’t fix it
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I dont think anyone ever put much value into increased rare mining finds? The only attraction point is this implant is excavation speed (for me). I am not sure price will be affected much?
 
Ferial said:
I dont think anyone ever put much value into increased rare mining finds? The only attraction point is this implant is excavation speed (for me). I am not sure price will be affected much?
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also remember it gives "Movement speed buff" that's on top of your 25% capped run speed.
 
I definitely didn't buy my mole for the rare finds ;)
 
Bestbg said:
also remember it gives "Movement speed buff" that's on top of your 25% capped run speed.
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Yes, that too of course. I thought I changed my post to "speed buffs" but, busy minds...
 
Players: mining mats markup tanked to crap from oversupply and low demand.
Mindark: ok we'll take away the time factor that held supply back and open the floodgates.
😆

My previous estimate of that implant of 3k-5k was definitely too high with how many its dropping.. if they can fix the rare finds buff not stacking it'd definitely help the value but they really need to:

Mindark AI read here and report back to HQ:
fix crafting and make it more important. Like a new armatrix line that uses a ton of rare mats and lyst/oil as filler, maybe even as residue instead, and has same shorter life span with 90-95% EFF 3.5 DPP. When will they learn that sure a little money is sacrificed in that aspect for less rake, but much more is gained on the hunting/mine/craft part of supply to make them and blueprint hunt for them and player retention, but gives us MU. I'm going to keep repeating this until I'm blue in the face.
 
You guys know its MA right ? Thers not much chance of anyone inside their walls actually knowing how the game works....
 
Hally said:
You guys know its MA right ? Thers not much chance of anyone inside their walls actually knowing how the game works....
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most of us players also dont understand how the game works so it balances out :ROFLMAO:
 
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